The guy has been through a lot professionally and personally, think its fair to give him more than two weeks at his new club
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.Álvaro Morata | Performances
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Chelsea are going to have to change their style of play to fit him in.
Isn't going to be battling defenders and getting stuck in like Costa, cnut as he is a lot of his game is disrupting the back line and bullying defenders.
I can't see Morata doing that.
Isn't going to be battling defenders and getting stuck in like Costa, cnut as he is a lot of his game is disrupting the back line and bullying defenders.
I can't see Morata doing that.
feckinell. the state of some people here.Kinda feel for Conte. Undisputed #1 target was Lukaku and they were the only ones in contention for him, or at least that's what Chelsea thought. Their board thought they could just camp outside Everton's castle and wait for them to cave in and drop the price. And the rest is history.
Then Conte complains about Morata's form saying he isn't strong enough (Lukaku eh). Add on top his poor performances thus far and then Conte pretty much backtracking / lack of confidence by saying he'd take Kane at this very moment.
And then their board selling Matic to us without Conte's consent while clearly being able to see the frustration on his face as he explains how that unfolded. Plus today's Morata penalty which no doubt has to have added even more pressure and frustration.
...but then again on second thought, I have close to no remorse for Conte and Chelsea. You snooze you lose. Hasn't even scored a goal yet. This is why you don't buy bench warmers at a premium cost, Floprata
He'll come good but he's a definite downgrade on Costa, why does Conte want rid of him?
Lets not forget Evra and Vidic hasn't really impressed anyone in their first half season with us, let alone 25mins cameo in a friendly.
The guy has been through a lot professionally and personally, think its fair to give him more than two weeks at his new club
NO
HE'S A FAILURE
CHELSEA STATUS = MID TABLE TEAM
DIEGO COSTA STATUS = LAUGHING
CONTE HAIR STATUS = LOST
BULLET STATUS = DODGED
It's too early to write him off but he looked like a duck out of water.
I think Conte will use him more in Europe and come off the bench in the PL to start with, until/if he can adjust to the increased intensity over LoL Liga.
In Spain they talk so low of the PL, especially at clubs like RM and Barca, I bet he thought he would just stroll in and score 40 goals a season.
I think Conte will use him more in Europe and come off the bench in the PL to start with, until/if he can adjust to the increased intensity over LoL Liga.
In Spain they talk so low of the PL, especially at clubs like RM and Barca, I bet he thought he would just stroll in and score 40 goals a season.
Morientes MK2.
This thread is ridiculous. The season hasn't even started yet, the community shield is a friendly.
If Lukaku doesn't score against Madrid does that mean he's a flop as well?
Morata is a good player no doubt, I do think he's a downgrade on Costa but it's far too early for all the comments calling him a flop.
If Lukaku doesn't score against Madrid does that mean he's a flop as well?
Morata is a good player no doubt, I do think he's a downgrade on Costa but it's far too early for all the comments calling him a flop.
Minutes played 26 = FLOPRATA HASNT EVEN SCORED YET.
He isn't the same player as Costa. To me he needs to be paired with another top class striker, yet all they have is Michy Batshuayi. That is bad planning on Chelsea's part. He needs help and unfortunately for the lad Chelsea's squad apart from a couple of players is a downgrade on both Juve and Real Madrid.
He certainly won't be a failure. But I think Costa is comfortably better than him. Also we did dodge a bullet, I'd rather have Lukaku than Morata in my team. Not a slight against the player, he'll come good for Chelsea, but, imho Lukaku is better.
He's a good player, it's not been the ideal summer for him.
He thought he was joining one club and ended up at another and he's been publicly hung out a bit by Conte. Can't be easy for him.
Needs time.
He thought he was joining one club and ended up at another and he's been publicly hung out a bit by Conte. Can't be easy for him.
Needs time.
How has he been 'publicly hung out' by Conte? He just said he needed to build up his fitness a bit, which is natural given he missed most of pre-season.
Just got marriedThe guy has been through a lot professionally and personally, think its fair to give him more than two weeks at his new club
Wow, thread has gone off the rail. Give the guy a break
He was inches away from scoring that header, if that goes in suddenly everybody is raving about him and that he's going to be a star.
Talk about jumping the gun
Talk about jumping the gun
The thread at the outset was discussing what was an objectively poor performance - at fault for the equaliser within 10 minutes of coming on, missing the decisive penalty - and wondering if he'll struggle in a team that was last year so reliant on Costa for decisive goals, particularly given they haven't added any creativity to their team.
He's never had to occupy that role before in his career and, with the mental struggles that are described by many of his colleagues in the article in here, it's natural to wonder if he will struggle to make that step up. You might disagree but to describe it as ridiculous is totally baseless.
The majority of people in this thread are saying exactly what you said...so why you cling on to the opposite extreme opinion as the defining tone of the thread is beyond me.
And how he needs to improve and play better, all whilst being asked to play LW in pre season. I'm pretty sure he's not happy with the way Conte has handled him so far.
Also, it's known Morata is someone who has issues with the mental side of his game and this isn't the best way for him to start, with his manager questioning him in the public eye.
I think it's fair to say if a mega money United signing had a debut like that the vultures would be out instantly.
He was poor.
He was poor.
Plenty of people have had great debuts then proceeded to disappoint. It can work both ways.
Because it's easier to do so than actually reading it.
Of course but that doesn't mean people should be jumped on for giving an opinion?
I wasn't being completely serious with that post. I also didn't see the match.
Realistically its impossible to judge after one game. It wasnt a great debut I suppose, thats something you can say, but it doesnt mean anything. There wasnt a full preseason, he didnt really know he was going to play in that team until very shortly before he signed for them.
I think he better suits our team than he does that current Chelsea team, and it makes a lot of sense that Chelsea were in for Lukaku as a priority....I cant help but feel bad for him, I think he will do alright for Chelsea, but I dont think that team is set up for him to do as well as he perhaps might do in ours or how he did in the Real Madrid team. I think Chelsea would have been better off going all in with Batshuayi and then re-assessing in January, it shows just how valuable it was for us to get Lukaku in terms of ruining Chelsea's plans for over the summer.
I do wish Morata well, he seems like a good guy and its a shame that the move for to us didnt work out.
I think he better suits our team than he does that current Chelsea team, and it makes a lot of sense that Chelsea were in for Lukaku as a priority....I cant help but feel bad for him, I think he will do alright for Chelsea, but I dont think that team is set up for him to do as well as he perhaps might do in ours or how he did in the Real Madrid team. I think Chelsea would have been better off going all in with Batshuayi and then re-assessing in January, it shows just how valuable it was for us to get Lukaku in terms of ruining Chelsea's plans for over the summer.
I do wish Morata well, he seems like a good guy and its a shame that the move for to us didnt work out.
He is a gentleman, I wouldn't wish him ill.
I am not judging him over 25 mins, but his mentality might be a problem. He looked absolutely dejected after the game. If it was Costa, he wouldn't give a shit about missing a pen.
Morata strikes me as a player who needs an arm around the shoulder. I am not sure Conte is that type of coach.
I am not judging him over 25 mins, but his mentality might be a problem. He looked absolutely dejected after the game. If it was Costa, he wouldn't give a shit about missing a pen.
Morata strikes me as a player who needs an arm around the shoulder. I am not sure Conte is that type of coach.
Sure we did ..
So Torres missed a few sitters and a penalty?
Do remember, Liverpool are going to win the league.
Did Liverpool win the league?
I think that is the problem a lot of us have. He is a really nice lad. If it had been Costa that had done that we would have laughed because he is an not particularly nice person. Conte is definitely not the arm round the shoulder type, so maybe it will be one of his teammates who has to do it. He needed Mata and Herrera for a group hug. Not everyone is tough or nasty, but can still be a good player.
Thanks for the nostalgia trip mate, but how's that overreaction ? He didn't survived mentally in Liverpool, nevermind the injuries, forever in Rio Ferdinand's pocket.
Miles better purchase than Andy Carroll, we can definitely give him that.
I think he'll struggle to bed in until the 2nd half of the season. Still rate him.
I would argue he did fairly well at Liverpool however point of the post is simply to state that it's not fair to judge players on 1 or 2 games. The only reason i state Torres in my original post is because Morata reminded me of his pen. miss and at the time i thought he was going to flop.
You know that ducks have legs right?
Wtf is he wearing?He can score off the pitch at least.
Just doesn't look like a deadly striker to me, we'll see.
his penalty was almost as bad as Courtois' but I thought there were hints of him being a hit (as there was with Lacazette in the community shield
Well the point is that most Liverpool fans were being cocky and thinking they were going to win the Premier League with the Torres signing alone, now my history is a little rusty but I don't think Liverpool did win the League so therefore my post isn't an over reaction at all and was in fact accurate.
Torres was far more established when he went to Liverpool being a first team regular for Atletico for several years and scoring 10+ goals in La Liga in each season. Morata has played in the best team in the world for the past few seasons and despite scoring goals hasn't got the experience that Torres did. He has no experience of being the main man playing every game for an entire season. It's not a good comparison.
As for Morata, I think it's hard to say how he'll do at Chelsea. If he continues to be an impact player then he'll do fine, but I think he might struggle if he's pushed in as the main CF. He'll struggle to find consistency throughout the season, it's why I think Chelsea are crazy if they consider selling Costa. They have no main striker with any genuine experience to lead them.
What was he saying when he missed the pen?
But he can probably at least get Costa a Coffee! Wake him up from his grumbles and convince him to stay again!