19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas school shooting (24 May 2022)

If anything, that only highlights their incompetence and negligence even more. More and more people are being revealed to have completely and utterly failed to do their job properly.
Yep. If true, it’s just gross negligence, especially in a town so small.
 


So when he was legally unable to get a gun, he couldn't get one. Then as soon as he turned 18 and was legally able to get a gun, he did.

Sure sounds like not being able to legally buy a gun would have helped here.
 


So when he was legally unable to get a gun, he couldn't get one. Then as soon as he turned 18 and was legally able to get a gun, he did.

Sure sounds like not being able to legally buy a gun would have helped here.


Yup, who would imagine eh?
 
Wow.

This fiasco will be studied for years. This will be a watershed moment.

By 'study' I assume you mean 'learning'. Sorry to disappoint you and burst any notion of a bubble you're still holding for your country.

Already forgotten, sadly.
 
By 'study' I assume you mean 'learning'. Sorry to disappoint you and burst any notion of a bubble you're still holding for your country.

Already forgotten, sadly.
International police institutions will study this abortion.

It’s not forgotten. This will be used to further militarize the police in this country, unfortunately.
 
Studied for what? The police are rarely held accountable for their feck ups in the USA
This is a big enough abortion that international police departments will study it to emphasize how not to do something.
 
This is a big enough abortion that international police departments will study it to emphasize how not to do something.

Again, international police departments would be better advised watching the Keystone Kops to study better policing. Best to not even look at the rest of America.
 
I'm still somewhat baffled by how all this played out. Is it negligence? Amateurism? Carelessness?
 
I'm still somewhat baffled by how all this played out. Is it negligence? Amateurism? Carelessness?

Just pure cowardice. A Twitter thread shared yesterday clearly shows the vital parts in the training manual that say what must always be prioritized - the innocent's life before the cop's life.
 
Again, international police departments would be better advised watching the Keystone Kops to study better policing. Best to not even look at the rest of America.
This also will be referenced & taught in the future by PR firms / crisis management firms for how not to do something.

As I said, this will be a watershed moment in policing & PR.
 
They are just cowardly bullies with guns, who love posing with their equipment to cosplay war.
 
Just so I'm clear, were the police standing around outside specifically ordered not to go in by someone in charge?
 
Just so I'm clear, were the police standing around outside specifically ordered not to go in by someone in charge?
Yeah that guy was a part of the same group there and made a call that it wasn't an active shooter situation anymore so there was no need to go in. The senior police guy in the press called that a wrong decision.
 
You are way more optimistic than me. I'm not even American, shouldn't you be the jaded one?
It’s too big of a complete failure that it won’t not be a reference going forward. Similar in a way to Columbine, but more applicable to more types of business.

It’s the quintessential ‘what not to do’ teaching moment.
 
It’s too big of a complete failure that it won’t not be a reference going forward. Similar in a way to Columbine, but more applicable to more types of business.

It’s the quintessential ‘what not to do’ teaching moment.
Could be similar to Waco. But I guess the US police is going to draw the worst possible conclusions from this. They somehow always do.
 
Yeah that guy was a part of the same group there and made a call that it wasn't an active shooter situation anymore so there was no need to go in. The senior police guy in the press called that a wrong decision.

Hmm. Wonder to what degree the expectation is that the other officers should challenge him in that situation? Or should blame fall pretty much solely on him for giving that order and not the other officers who did as ordered?
 
Hmm. Wonder to what degree the expectation is that the other officers should challenge him in that situation? Or should blame fall pretty much solely on him for giving that order and not the other officers who did as ordered?
The BORTAC agents were also told to stand down. They waited 30 minutes, then said feck it & went In on their own accord, defying the order. They killed the shooter.

I wonder if they will receive any reprimands for disobeying the order.
 
The BORTAC agents were also told to stand down. They waited 30 minutes, then said feck it & went In on their own accord, defying the order. They killed the shooter.

I wonder if they will receive any reprimands for disobeying the order.

For feck's sake.

If anything, the BORTAC agents have done their job in accordance to the highest police traditions and to the entire manual. Whoever was holding them off should be the one(s) reprimanded.
 
For feck's sake.

If anything, the BORTAC agents have done their job in accordance to the highest police traditions and to the entire manual. Whoever was holding them off should be the one(s) reprimanded.
Due to the location of the shooting, the lead commander was the school district police chief, the same one who made the determination that the saga had transitioned into a barricaded hostage event & had transitioned out of an active shooter event even before the BORTAC officers arrived. The school district police chief oversees a whopping six SROs, was woefully out of his depth, & cocked up everything.