prateik
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The young ones were pretty strongly out for Sanders. Wonder if Hillary can get them to turn out to vote if she gets the nomination.
did they do a male/female breakdown? I know the race issue was nonexistent in Iowa - place is so damn white lol
The mind turns to Obama's 2008 Iowa Victory speech. A masterful and fantastic speech that set the tone for him wiping away Clinton and McCain later on.
I actually think he sounds a lot like Sanders.
She won in one of Sanders best states demographically, not sure how she lost.Hillary and Trump were the biggest losers yesterday.
Rubio and Sanders were the biggest winners.
Hillary and Trump were the biggest losers yesterday.
Rubio and Sanders were the biggest winners.
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So as predicted, it was the younger folk who went for Sanders whereas the old-timers went for Clinton, 68% of over 65s went for her
Shows the US Democrat party may have a more hopeful future and possibly break away from its corporatocracy in favour of grassroots democracy. Really hope Sanders can push shillary all the way.
She won in one of Sanders best states demographically, not sure how she lost.
That doesn't bode well for the general election. If younger people aren't energized by her then they won't turn out which could doom her in the swing states. Especially if Rubio is the GOP nominee.
I feel that when all is said and done Rubio is the GOP's best chance to win a national election.
Sanders showed everyone yesterday that he is for real.
Hillary is lucky Elizabeth Warren isn't running. She would crush her with a Sanders-esque platform.
Warren is 66. Democrats dont have any young politicians seeming to come through.
All the young up and comers in DC seem to be from the tea party who have stolen the narrative and airwaves since 2010.
Hillary is lucky Elizabeth Warren isn't running. She would crush her with a Sanders-esque platform.
I agree. A Sanders-Warren ticket may well be unbeatable.
If Sanders were to get Warren as his running mate, they would run away with the election.
Warren is inspirational....and would take all the wind out of Hillary's "I'm a woman so vote for me" platform.
Cruz can't lurch to the center in the general. He might win hard-liners in his party but he won't win moderates nationwide.
Republicans will need to win 2 of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. PA is almost guaranteed blue so it comes down to Ohio and Florida, both of whom have been shifting Democrat over the last few elections. It will be difficult.agree. Rubio will be their best bet. But even then, the electrol map is against them.
Cruz can't lurch to the center in the general. He might win hard-liners in his party but he won't win moderates nationwide.
Republicans will need to win 2 of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. PA is almost guaranteed blue so it comes down to Ohio and Florida, both of whom have been shifting Democrat over the last few elections. It will be difficult.
Yup. No chance he shifts at all if he gets the nomination, instead he's likely to double down on the craziness. His appeal is his fecked up ideology. If he shifts from that...he has NOTHING.Cruz opposed Ethanol subsidies in Iowa as the only candidate. He is - at least to a reasonable degree - a believer in his ideology and won´t be looking for too many compromises. If he wins the nomination, he won´t move to far to the center.
True, but I think that was partly to due with Obama energizing the black vote. Has to be seen if the next Democrat can do that.They would also have to win Virginia, which went for Obama twice.
True, but I think that was partly to due with Obama energizing the black vote. Has to be seen if the next Democrat can do that.
Sure, but that's not the same thing. Bill Clinton's out campaigning for Hillary but if he was running himself he'd be the nominee by a landslide.I'd fully expect Obama to campaign for either one of the dems.
If Sanders were to get Warren as his running mate, they would run away with the election.
Warren is inspirational....and would take all the wind out of Hillary's "I'm a woman so vote for me" platform.
Yup. No chance he shifts at all if he gets the nomination, instead he's likely to double down on the craziness. His appeal is his fecked up ideology. If he shifts from that...he has NOTHING.
Ben Carson not happy with the snake -
http://fortune.com/2016/02/01/ben-carson-accuses-ted-cruz-of-dirty-tricks-at-iowa-caucuses/
He's also sane, which helps.Sanders is like a charismatic Jeremy Corbyn.