I wonder if Nick Powell could become a similar player for us in time.
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He isn't particularly quick, but he is quicker than I thought he was.
He definitely isn't, always been like this for us. Like Flamini the guy can run all game long and never seems to get tired.
Arteta is someone Ramsey needs to learn off when it comes to defensive positioning and clever interceptions
Ramsey's back to where he was when he got Shawcross'd. After that it never seemed like he'd ever get back to that standard, after all that was in 2008. However, five years later and here we are. If I wasn't still a little bit annoyed at the way he wriggled out of coming to United to join Arsenal in the first place I might say I'm pleased for him. I respect the time and effort Ramsey must have put in to get back to his top level and, from a neutral point of view, its good to see players come back from bad injuries. Hopefully Cleverley can do the same and hit the sort of high notes he struck at the start of 2011/12...
I'm not having a go, but Ramsey before Shawcross was absolutely nowhere near where he is now.
There's been a lot of revisionism regarding Ramsey from all sets of supporters, some intentional and some not.
Not as prolific in front of goal I'd agree, nowhere near in fact. But he lost all the authority in his game after Shawcross. As I recall the Ramsey of 2007/08 was a fine dribbler, took up great positions and was a very accomplished give and go player. The Ramsey of the seasons following simply wasn't. Until now. Plus now, as you say, he's added to what we originally saw some pretty good goalscoring. Ramsey today is Ramsey as he probably should've been and would've been 2 or 3 years ago but for the injury and subsequent loss of self-confidence.
Yep, agreed.
It's amazing what confidence can do though - that's what I'm learning this season with him. It's amazing how someone who looked so down and out has now become a complete monster. I've always under-estimated the feel-good factor with players in football because he's proving its existence.
With Ramsey, Wenger persisted and he clearly knew he had it in him.He has surprised many with his goals this season but as Alastair said, confidence is so important and I sometimes wish Welbeck had that confidence to have a go.If a player shoots believing the ball will hit the target or beat the keeper, he has a better chance of success.
Really happy to see him recover from that horrific injury and start fulfilling his potential. I hope we can nurture Nick Powell the same way.
Did Powell suffer an injury?
I tend to forget Ramseys injury!! feck me that was a nasty one, but well done to him for bouncing back and a lot of players play with such fear after such injuries, but not this lad.
He should net Arsenal a pretty penny or two when he moves to Chelsea in a couple of years.
I have a bit of a man crush on Ramsey.
He's superb. Gutting when you think how close we came to signing him.
He's superb. Gutting when you think how close we came to signing him.
Who doesn't?
I need a bit more stained glass and a screwdriver and then I'll be able to complete my shrine.
Ozil took 4 Liverpool players out of the game with that one pass to Ramsey, excellent vision.
Does anyone really WANT to play for Chelsea?
They are an established big club these days. They have been relevant the last decade so that is since any up and coming star was still in primary school.
chalk me up as one of the people who thought he never had it in him. I could never understood why Wenger persisted with him, looks like I was wrong.
If he leaves Arsenal, it might be for us as he supported United as a kid.
He won't leave Arsenal for a while anyway.
I think he's just talking in terms of general player progression. Powell has had a few injuries but nothing anywhere near as horrific as Ramsey.
He turned us down for Arsenal. What makes you think he'd leave them for us now?
I can see a few cases of sour grapes on here. He has really been fantastic thusfar in the season.
Hope he has a stinker next week.
Hope he has a stinker next week.
I wasn't suggesting he would leave Arsenal for us, but if he ever were to leave the Emirates then we would be amongst his options.
It's such pathetic defending and midfield play. Highlights everything that was wrong with Liverpool.
Should be proof that we as supporters don't know jack shit sometimes.
Already player of the season thus far. His work-rate is just insane.
Am I just fooling myself thinking that he's bound to regress to his previous average form? He is killing me in fantasy.
I cant believe how good he's been this season. Looked decent when he first went to Arsenal - very neat and tidy but hadnt ever kicked on.
He needs to have a really good season overall though I suppose. Its early days.
To be fair, Ramsey prior to his "Shawcross connection" was already becoming quite the player. The injury really did a number on him with his form and confidence. Credit to Wenger for sticking with him and allowing him to get his confidence back. He was already a huge talent when Utd and Arsenal were trying to sign him.
...Shawcross
Yeah - obviously had an effect not just physically but also psychlogically.
Being played anywhere but his preferred position also wont have helped.
The goalkeeper's reaction.
Edit: I can admit to being one of the people who thought he was an average footballer. I always wondered why Wenger had kept him in the team for so long - I rated Cleverley above him, in terms of who would make a better squad player. Seems Ramsey is not a squad player at all, & good for him - I hope he fulfills his potential. He's been fantastic this season.
He was just a little rubbish yesterday, was he not? That was like watching him last season 
He was just a little rubbish yesterday, was he not? That was like watching him last season
Only because he was on the wings. When he moved back centrally, he looked better.