Torres to Barcelona too imo.
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Torres to Barcelona too imo.
Only if Benitez goes.
Whats happened to him then? I could remember him moving to Arsenal for more first team opportunities? 
Whats happened to him then? I could remember him moving to Arsenal for more first team opportunities?
He's played quite a lot for them, certainly far more than he would have at United.Very strange post.
Has he? Guess I havent been following Arsenal close enough then. My bad, bitterness getting the better of me then.
I think we've quite a few young midfielders that can compensate anyway. I was slightly disappointed at the time but never mind
I think we've quite a few young midfielders that can compensate anyway. I was slightly disappointed at the time but never mind
You just never know though. Maybe we've missed out on a top young player, but it's only because we're pretty well stacked in central midfield at the moment.
And it's all swings and roundabouts anyway. Maybe if we bought him then we would not have bough Ljalic (sp?), and he could turn out to be a better player. Time will tell.
Wished we never missed out of him. What a player last night.
He's excellent on the ball.
Lacks awareness though (got tackled from behind a few times when really he shouldn't have), though that may be more a case of poor voice from the players around him.
Lacks awareness though (got tackled from behind a few times when really he shouldn't have), though that may be more a case of poor voice from the players around him.
Was superb last night.
Extremely talented.
Will be a very good player in future if not world class.
Extremely talented.
Will be a very good player in future if not world class.
I thought he was good but ffs
I don't think we missed out at all.
I laugh at them and you for being dumb enough to quote them. Giggs is looking burnt out nowadays innit?
Im happy we didnt sign him. Not a special player.
Certainly has potential.
To be honest though, he's probably at the right club to develop his technical game (which was needed). Fair fecks to him I say, he turned down a club winning trophy after trophy and joined the right club for his development.
To be honest though, he's probably at the right club to develop his technical game (which was needed). Fair fecks to him I say, he turned down a club winning trophy after trophy and joined the right club for his development.
I've always maintained we missed out. Still only 18 too isnt he? He's obviously got some improving too do but he will go on to be among the best in the league imo.
he was very good yesterday...
no doubt wenger will hil him as the new fabregas when cesc fecks off
no doubt wenger will hil him as the new fabregas when cesc fecks off
Speaking of Fabregas. What a wonderful little player he is. I'm pretty sure there are some on this board that don't rate him too. Honestly, it seems that you have to do stepovers and smash in goals on a regular basis to be considered a quality player by some people. I absolutely love watching him play when he and Arsenal are in form.
In that case I laugh at you for being dumb enough to not realise that Giggs had breaks every summer and also probably half of the international breaks each year too while fabregas is playing and going far in tournaments every summer (at least the last 3 years) innit?
But then again you think Modric > Cesc.
Course you don't.
You know, it's okay for other fans not to feel the same love towards Arsenal's players as you do.
Have you considered that maybe, just maybe Kraftwerker doesn't actually think Ramsey is as special as you do?
We have quite a few talented midfielders in the academy and reserves these days, and thus we don't desperately need an 18 year old Ramsey.
I'm joking around mate, hence the smiley.
I think we definitely missed out one his day he looks every bit as good as Wilshere and people are raving about his potential
For the record despite the record for Spurs I still wish we hadn't missed out of Gareth Bale as well, cant help but think after the potential he showed in his early games at Spurs that his career would be a lot different now had he chose us
For the record despite the record for Spurs I still wish we hadn't missed out of Gareth Bale as well, cant help but think after the potential he showed in his early games at Spurs that his career would be a lot different now had he chose us
And thank Christ for that.
If we all loved Arsenal players like he does, we wouldn't be able to move for the jizz round here.
I think he's going to be a top player in the years to come. In the case of Aaron Ramsey it's refreshing to be able to describe a young midfield player from the British Isles and use words such as touch, technique, vision and intelligence instead of pace, power and aggression.
At 18 years of age he already dominates games at U21 level (Lee Cattermole couldn't get near him when Wales played England a year ago). He's got 10 caps for the Wales senior side, the next step for him is to try and edge his way into the Arsenal first team.
At 18 years of age he already dominates games at U21 level (Lee Cattermole couldn't get near him when Wales played England a year ago). He's got 10 caps for the Wales senior side, the next step for him is to try and edge his way into the Arsenal first team.
I rate him highly
easily better than Modric
easily better than Modric
yeah as soon as fabregas plays for a barca or a real he will be hailed as one of the best midfielders of his generation... and in truth he is now... id take him over lampard or gerrard through the middle any day
Ljajic > Ramsey
He does have excellent technique.
I like your thinking, but with Ramsey, its not really true. His touch, passing and technique are good, but not special.
Wilshere will become the much better player, because his technique, passing and touch are on a different level to Ramseys.
I think it's worth noting that in the last 3 or 4 games, he has been Wales' outstanding player too. Despite playing in a team of mostly Championship players with its fair share of players who are clearly a step above (such as Bellamy, Bale, Koumas and Davies), Ramsey has really shone the brightest recently. By the time the Euro qualifiers roll around, he'll be the most important player for his country at the of age of only 19. And I know of lot of people will play that down considering it's Wales, but at that age, it is a very impressive achievement.
Play different roles, Ljajic is a lot more attack minded.
yeah ljajic is more similat to wilshire isnt he...
cant say i have seen enough of ljajic to see how good he could be in england... but ill be shocked if wilshire isnt one of the key members of englands world cup squad in 2014... he has bags of talent... of ljajic is as good or fingers crossed even better than i may have a cock explosion
There were instances during the recent Arsenal vs Liverpool Carling Cup match where I thought he produced some exceptional moments of quality. Ramsey is still searching for consistency in his performance throughout the whole 90 minutes but that is understandable considering his age.
Also, I think Ramsey and Wilshere are completely different players who are asked to do different things. Perhaps, in 5 years time if both players are established Wilshere will be more spectacular, a matchwinner, but Ramsey could become more influential for the team as a whole.
Ljajic has shown more than Wilshere IMO. He's been scoring in Europa League and starred for every NT group bar the senior team - which is inevitable.
I'm really excited by him as he has the ability to make something happen nearly every game. This is something the likes of Dejan Savicevic, Dragan Stojkovic used to do all the time.
You can't put his name up there with those guys, but based on what i've seen I am optimistic he will be a star - not too mention he will be learning under Fergie's wing.
Ljajic is more gifted than Ramsey albeit they play in different positions. Both quality young talents, Wilshere...from what I've seen is similar to Ljajic in that they both have the potential to change games single-handedly in one moment of magic, Ramsey also can do so..but is more likely to control games.
Wilshere has to have more first team football in order to progress even further, when he does then we can truly judge him as a talent capable of holding his own and dominating at the top level.
Too soon to judge who'll be the best out of the three.
Wilshere has to have more first team football in order to progress even further, when he does then we can truly judge him as a talent capable of holding his own and dominating at the top level.
Too soon to judge who'll be the best out of the three.
There's no way you've seen enough of Ljajic to say that.
Technically, he is.. can get past players, great first touch, strike the ball, is dangerous aerially as well.. no real weakness to his game technically, but being more gifted doesn't necessarly make him a better player than Ramsey (both are very gifted).. lots of other factors come in, hunger, application, capacity to improve, physique, athletic prowess etc etc also if he can't demonstrate this technique against superior stronger defenders once he joins up with us then it's pointless but I've seen enough of Ljajic to know he is sound as they come technically.