Aaron Ramsey

Not fond of many Arsenal players but I really like Ramsey, hope he recovers and carries on to his full capacity.
It's easy for players to fall by the wayside after such an injury but he has youth on his side.
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Brilliant little player. Ramsey, Wilshere and Song have the makings of an excellent midfield for a good few years after Fabregas goes. Not that they'll win anything mind, but they'll be really good.
 
Yep, beat Swansea 1-0 in a tight game thanks to a Bellamy screamer with 5 minutes to go. Sinclair was typically dangerous for the Swans, but Ramsey was a class apart in the centre of the park.
 
Before he got injured, he had that superb game against Olympiakos and then went from strength to strength. Not only was he doing well with his passing, but he was a direct threat and capable with his weaker foot. He looked more complete than Wilshere but obviously that injury was terrible and Wilshere has taken his chances very well.
 
Decotron said:
Not a chance...Wilshere is a class above imo
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What little we saw of Ramsey the season he broke his leg, he really was coming into his own, he certainly didn't look a class below by any means. The long lay off, loans, and now riding the bench, might mean he has fallen behind, but if he hasn't lost anything physically or mentally because of his injuries, I expect him to be just as good if not better than Wilshere.

Tbf, I am still bitter, we didn't get our man.

Arsene and Arsenal are going to have to make a decision soon.

Wilshere
Ramsey
Fabregas
Nasri

All players who want to play in the middle, Nasri has been shifted out wide for the moment, and looks diabolical in that position, his best form earlier in the season was when he was in the middle with Fabregas out.

So I wonder who it is, they will let go...Wilshere and Ramsey are both precocious talents, who will no longer be content to be merely squad members.
 
BTV_is_neutral said:
Nasri has been shifted out wide for the moment, and looks diabolical in that position, his best form earlier in the season was when he was in the middle with Fabregas out.
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He certainly stepped up in Fabregas' absence on occasion but it was still mostly playing out wide, as Walcott was also injured...injured more frequently than Fabregas in fact. He's had a quiet second half of the season but it's not due to position.
 
In a way he made the wrong decision choosing Arsenal over us and not just because we have been and will be more successful than them. But mainly because he would have much easily cemented a first team position with us than them.
 
crappycraperson said:
In a way he made the wrong decision choosing Arsenal over us and not just because we have been and will be more successful than them. But mainly because he would have much easily cemented a first team position with us than them.
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Yup. Funny how things work out eh.
 
Rowem said:
He certainly stepped up in Fabregas' absence on occasion but it was still mostly playing out wide, as Walcott was also injured...injured more frequently than Fabregas in fact. He's had a quiet second half of the season but it's not due to position.
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Hmmm ok, not sure why, I remember him playing through the middle earlier on in the season, or maybe nominally he was on the wing, but would end up drifting inside, not being a wide player naturally.

EDIT: Crappy - Ramsey played 22 times for Arsenal his 1st season, and had already played 29 times the season he broke his leg. He was well on his way to establishing himself in the Arsenal lineup, his injury has messed things up, but I'm not sure Aaron Ramsey would have gotten 51 appearances at United by the time he was 19, like he did at Arsenal.
 
I've heard a few Arsenal players linking his career progression to Eduardo's. Superb early form, followed by a horrendous injury and then a career that never hits the heights it should have done. Obviously most players who get an injury like that take a while to recover (Valencia apart) but from the little I've seen of him post-injury, he looks nowhere near what he was before. Before the injury he was playing, performing well and scoring frequently in the Arsenal first-team at the age of 19. I wonder if he'll ever get back to those heights and achieve his obvious potential. Fabregas is likely to leave, Nasri could too and if he does, that'll leave a place for Ramsey to make his own.
 
BTV_is_neutral said:
Hmmm ok, not sure why, I remember him playing through the middle earlier on in the season, or maybe nominally he was on the wing, but would end up drifting inside, not being a wide player naturally.

EDIT: Crappy - Ramsey played 22 times for Arsenal his 1st season, and had already played 29 times the season he broke his leg. He was well on his way to establishing himself in the Arsenal lineup, his injury has messed things up, but I'm not sure Aaron Ramsey would have gotten 51 appearances at United by the time he was 19, like he did at Arsenal.
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Think he would have. Anderson is his first season, was very close to our first choice CM. Started a lot of big games for us. In his second season, he started the CL final.

If we had signed Ramsey, think there is a chance we may have shipped off Carrick by now if he had not turned for the fight for a place or Scholes would have played much less.

All this assuming, Ramsey would have shown similar form with us as he did with Arsenal.

My main point was though that he is one many good CMs Arsenal have. So even if at that time he was on his way to being a first team regular, he was bound to face rotation once Wilshire arrived on the scene and Nasri picked up form. At United, I think he would have been a regular much earlier given we lack a creative CM bar Scholes. We may not have even seen Giggs play regularly in CM then.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
I've heard a few Arsenal players linking his career progression to Eduardo's. Superb early form, followed by a horrendous injury and then a career that never hits the heights it should have done. Obviously most players who get an injury like that take a while to recover (Valencia apart) but from the little I've seen of him post-injury, he looks nowhere near what he was before. Before the injury he was playing, performing well and scoring frequently in the Arsenal first-team at the age of 19. I wonder if he'll ever get back to those heights and achieve his obvious potential. Fabregas is likely to leave, Nasri could too and if he does, that'll leave a place for Ramsey to make his own.
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Eduardo was never 'superb' before his injury. Showed a couple of good form spells at best. Though I think he did and would have continued to add much needed variety to their strike force.
 
The injury was a huge blow for him. Now it's very hard to win back his place from Wilshere. Yet he might benefit from the potential Fabregas sale.

I'd love we bring him to OT in a second attempt, but we probably won't.
 
Thought he was absolutely phenomenal before his injury, a very very special player. Such a shame for him, as a neutral hope he gets back to somewhere near his best.
 
Ramsey and Wilshere are differing types of players though.

Still a very good player with loads of potential. Shame he didn't come to us, would have played a lot as well.
 
Decotron said:
Not a chance...Wilshere is a class above imo
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Ramsey's got a lot more potential. Wilshere is a very good player for his age but the hype machine has been dragging him through most of this year, making him vastly overrated. Ramsey was a cut above when he was in the side last year, and I'm hoping with a good pre-season behind him he'll be raring to go again.
 
TheHorse'sMouth said:
Ramsey's got a lot more potential. Wilshere is a very good player for his age but the hype machine has been dragging him through most of this year, making him vastly overrated. Ramsey was a cut above when he was in the side last year, and I'm hoping with a good pre-season behind him he'll be raring to go again.
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Ramsay was looking a very special player when Shawcross twatted him. Physically up to it, can tackle, strong on the ball, great engine and not afraid to have a spank from 25 yards too.

One never likes to lose exceptional players but once Fabregas departs frnkly I see a midfield of Wilshere Nasri Ramsey and backed by Song and Arshavin as pretty tasty

Ramsey's got more in his locker in a box to box sense and puts himself about. He was beginning to look immense at the time of the injury especially when Fabs was injured. I fancy he's mentally up for a fight too and from what I saw he's also happy to bollock those around him who need it.

It does look like he's stronger physically than say poor Eduardo and I think his break was frankly not so severe. Agreed given a proper pre season I'd hope to see him and Wilshere play together in 75% of our games next year

Fingers crossed for him
 
Jopub said:
Ramsay was looking a very special player when Shawcross twatted him. Physically up to it, can tackle, strong on the ball, great engine and not afraid to have a spank from 25 yards too.

One never likes to lose exceptional players but once Fabregas departs frnkly I see a midfield of Wilshere Nasri Ramsey and backed by Song and Arshavin as pretty tasty

Ramsey's got more in his locker in a box to box sense and puts himself about. He was beginning to look immense at the time of the injury especially when Fabs was injured. I fancy he's mentally up for a fight too and from what I saw he's also happy to bollock those around him who need it.

It does look like he's stronger physically than say poor Eduardo and I think his break was frankly not so severe. Agreed given a proper pre season I'd hope to see him and Wilshere play together in 75% of our games next year

Fingers crossed for him
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Don't really like Song though Jo.. if he wants to attack he can feck off..he can stay as a DM or I'd rather Arsene went out and bought a specialist DM who will sit back and do his job, and let Song leave. Song is never going to be an attacking mid.
 
TheHorse'sMouth said:
Don't really like Song though Jo.. if he wants to attack he can feck off..he can stay as a DM or I'd rather Arsene went out and bought a specialist DM who will sit back and do his job, and let Song leave. Song is never going to be an attacking mid.
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Neither do I no pace or passing intelligence.

But you dont him to attack do you?. He's completely indisciplined is Song, he seems to thinks he's some Vieira type box to box but he has no pace at all and no composure as well.

He has potential to be a very good defensive, holding mid if he'd just concentrate on winning it and giving it and not go rampaging up the pitch to leave us short. Trouble is that Makelele Hamaan type requires great mental discipline to sit back and leave creating to others best suited. He can tackle but is often in the last ditch type mode when if he sat back in front of the back four his tackling would actually be much easier as he'd be facing the play

Its hard to tell a player that's all you want him for but I do feel with encouragement he could do that. tbh though I expect Wenger tells him to get forward at any and every opportunity thus exposing the back four time and time again

Hate to say it but we had the perfect player for us to do that but the club/ Wenger fked Flamini over for a few grand and bingo, kaboom ........gone !

That was one of the most stupid things Wenger was a party to Ive ever seen - I mean Wenger chose to keep Eboue but let Flamini, Hleb and Silva all go in one hit!!! but again another story
 
Played well today, if he can steer clear of injury and continue to gain confidence, him and Wilshere will forge a fearsome midfield duo, one which'll be difficult to overcome in the coming years.
 
He was brilliant today, always thought that he was a better prospect than Wilshere(who was poor)
 
Ridiculous that he wasn't booked. 3 poor challenges without a card yet Rooney puts his hands on Wilshere and up pops a yellow.
 
Agreed about the card. Should have at least got a yellow.

Good game though.
 
Jopub said:
Ramsay was looking a very special player when Shawcross twatted him. Physically up to it, can tackle, strong on the ball, great engine and not afraid to have a spank from 25 yards too.

One never likes to lose exceptional players but once Fabregas departs frnkly I see a midfield of Wilshere Nasri Ramsey and backed by Song and Arshavin as pretty tasty

Ramsey's got more in his locker in a box to box sense and puts himself about. He was beginning to look immense at the time of the injury especially when Fabs was injured. I fancy he's mentally up for a fight too and from what I saw he's also happy to bollock those around him who need it.

It does look like he's stronger physically than say poor Eduardo and I think his break was frankly not so severe. Agreed given a proper pre season I'd hope to see him and Wilshere play together in 75% of our games next year

Fingers crossed for him
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Great to see Ramsay back playing so well rewarded by a goal

However we should try keeping Fab because relying on a 19 year old and 21 year old to perform in 75% of matches is unreasonable

Maybe in years to come they will be our central duo but too early now
 
Breakthrough year for him this year?
 
I rated him more than Wilshere before his injury. Looks to have recovered well, right now. How has he played in this pre-season?
 
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