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I'd almost take more pleasure in seeing this odious prick taken down than Trump.
I'd almost take more pleasure in seeing this odious prick taken down than Trump.
I'd almost take more pleasure in seeing this odious prick taken down than Trump.
I'd almost take more pleasure in seeing this odious prick taken down than Trump.
Wayne Rooney?Any bad actors or people who spread delibrate misinformation should be deplatformed. It shouldn’t be controversial. It’s
How we ended up with brexit for Christ sake, and a growing alt right presence.
It has the consequence that you'll have to get rid of a bunch of MPs, which means it'll be difficult to get through. Of course anyone on the street will agree it's a good idea.Any bad actors or people who spread delibrate misinformation should be deplatformed. It shouldn’t be controversial. It’s
How we ended up with brexit for Christ sake, and a growing alt right presence.
I used to think people were rational and had at least a bare bones ability to critically analyse the information they come across in their lives, but I've lost all faith in that idea. To that end there's no way you would have a consensus about who was spreading misinformation even though its clear as day, people think entities like brightbart, fox news and youtube reactionaries are factual objective news services, and take the bollocks trump et al say at face value, when any basic level of fact checking renders most of what they say incorrect.It has the consequence that you'll have to get rid of a bunch of MPs, which means it'll be difficult to get through. Of course anyone on the street will agree it's a good idea.
You're looking at it in slightly the wrong way though. If you go onto the street and ask random people "Do you think e.g. MPs should be removed from their position if they deliberately spread misinformation?" I'm sure most people would reply with a "yes" (I don't know if it's 6 or 9 out of 10 though).I used to think people were rational and had at least a bare bones ability to critically analyse the information they come across in their lives, but I've lost all faith in that idea. To that end there's no way you would have a consensus about who was spreading misinformation even though its clear as day, people think entities like brightbart, fox news and youtube reactionaries are factual objective news services, and take the bollocks trump et al say at face value, when any basic level of fact checking renders most of what they say incorrect.
We dont live in a society that inherently values factual consensus, and when you do go down the rabbit hole of trying to debate people based on logic and objective data you get crushed by anecdote and emotional irrelevancy to the point you want to blow your own brains out.
Joe said on his podcast just the other day that he likes Alex and that they're friends. He said he's a really nice guy that you'd love to have a beer with.
Why is that nutjob going after him?
Because Rogan won't have him on his show after Jones was telling more lies about him in his show. Jones is just being a vindictive cnut now trying to get the Internet rage mob after him.
Any bad actors or people who spread delibrate misinformation should be deplatformed. It shouldn’t be controversial. It’s
How we ended up with brexit for Christ sake, and a growing alt right presence.
To open all the doors for potential authoritarianism. Smart move.
Instead, if you want to do something against misinformation, just watermark people that are deemed that way with -videos or news article - with a waterproof. So people have still access to it and can make up their own minds.
You’re on a roll all over the place today aren’t you
The fact is that a lot of people lack the thinking skills to make up their own mind when presented with blatant misinformation. That the anti-vax movement has such a prominent following that these diseases are having a resurgence is testament to that.
Alex Jones inspired idiots have been harassing the families of school shooting victims. How can you look at that and say that this nonsense should be available for people to make up their own minds about it?
To open all the doors for potential authoritarianism. Smart move.
Instead, if you want to do something against misinformation, just watermark people that are deemed that way with -videos or news article - with a waterproof. So people have still access to it and can make up their own minds.
And how does that warrant censorship? I gave a reasonable compromise there that such outlets are watermarked rather than deleted. But apparently you are willing to give up your liberties, because someone says mean things somewhere. Well, I am not willing to do so. I think access to information is as important as freedom of speech. Because only through that access you have the chance to form your opinions based on all sides of the coin. Does everyone do that? Of course not. But stupidity is not an excuse for censorship.
You sound like an authoritarian. You appear to want government to force private business and public university to provide a platform for right wing extemists.
Alex jones is not entitled to a platform and he has not been censored as you can still go to his crap website
I care about facts. Objective real things. Children were objectively murdered in a school and their families are grieving. Vaccines have objectively been shown to reduce the spread of disease. I don’t care about listening to a raving lunatic spouting his opinions based on nothing at all, just for the sake of saying “I form opinions based on both sides of the coin, unlike all of you sheep!”
You don’t need to listen to Alex Jones to know that harassing the families of the victims of a school shooting is a bad thing. Those views are harmful and toxic. There is nothing to be gained from it, again besides listening to it and thinking you’re some type of intellectual superior. Nothing positive can come from these types of people spouting their bile. If not wanting hateful rhetorics and misinformation spread means that I’m a fan of censorship, then so be it. There are many views in this world that could do with being censored.
Also for what it’s worth, he isn’t even being censored. YouTube and these other companies are private companies. They’re not obligated to give everyone a platform. If he so believes in what he’s saying, he’s more than welcome to set up his own website, and you’re more than welcome to access his enlightened opinions and explore both sides of the raving idiot coin.
Freedom of speech has been continuously twisted and deformed in its implimentation to be a blanket platform for people to argue for the toleration of the intolerable.
You don’t have a right to be platformed, and when this actually starts to look like a problem like something out of a V for vendetta style dystopian dictatorship we can discuss it, but as of now it’s simply stopping the poisoning of the conversation.
If these right wing gorms actually had valid arguments they would be able to argue for them without baseless emotional rhetoric and the malicious misrepresentation of objective facts.