They haven't said they would, they said it's a possibility, and believe me, if Asda had to put up their prices the rest would follow.
Alex Salmond and Independence
- Thread starter Team Brian GB
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Of course.
Having "no plans to do so" and stating categorically it won't happen are two entirely different things. Cameron at present has no plans to resign, but that may change if Scotland votes Yes.
Yes and saying prices "may go up" and stating categorically that they will are two entirely different things.
Are you ignoring the second paragraph of the Morrisons statement where they prices could indeed be lowered?
Alright, we've told you why prices might be raised. Logistics, risk, regulation etc. Now you explain to us logically why you think prices will be lowered.
You were querying why prices may go up, the rationale was being explained to you. I don't think anyone on here said prices would definitely go up. As I said, nothing to do with scaremongering or bullying, just business.
Anyway, I'm off now to watch some second-class teams present a poor man's imitation of Utd's glorious football.
It seems that way. I suppose if someone wants something bad enough they will only see what they want to see.Getting the feeling you're banging your head against a brick wall?
Forget the UK, they will want to remain in the EU.
It's not me who said prices might (not will) be lowered.
The irony.
Very few of you have been able to see or bring yourself to admit that there is indeed many positive's for Scotland in the event of independence.
Right, Pink Moon, I am a complete novice in this Independence lark and know absolutely nothing about the pros and cons of an Independent Scotland.
Please can you show me some positives of an Independent Scotland so I can decide what I think is best, YES or NO.
Thanks
Please can you show me some positives of an Independent Scotland so I can decide what I think is best, YES or NO.
Thanks
That's not answering my question. I told you why they might increase. I want you to tell me why they might be lowered. If you can't, then maybe in the face of everybody explaining to you why the opposite can be true, maybe you should reevaluate this point.
Right, Pink Moon, I am a complete novice in this Independence lark and know absolutely nothing about the pros and cons of an Independent Scotland.
Please can you show me some positives of an Independent Scotland so I can decide what I think is best, YES or NO.
Thanks
This will be fun.....where's the popcorn smilie?
I am being serious, Marching - I would also like to know what outcome would be the best, in the long run, for the rest of the UK.This will be fun.....where's the popcorn smilie?
I know absolutely nothing.
Not sure if this has been posted...........
http://wakeupscotland.wordpress.com...yes-why-i-joined-yes-and-why-i-changed-to-no/
http://wakeupscotland.wordpress.com...yes-why-i-joined-yes-and-why-i-changed-to-no/
Tell me some positives and I'll quite happily discuss them with you, I'm sure there are some. However I'm not sure they are going to outweigh the negatives.
No guarantees with either vote although IMO the sensible vote would be a NO vote. A YES vote would be nigh on impossible to fund in the long term. I can understand the Scots being disillusioned with being run to some extent by Westminster and wanting to be masters of their own country/destiny but it comes at a huge cost that I don't think can be sustained. So many questions that Salmond refuses to answer presumably because he knows the voters won't like the answers....currency, spending, taxes, NHS budget cuts, NATO, EU, dwindling oil reserves....
Let's pretend I have a vote and currently it's going for the NO campaign but I am open to changing my vote.....put your case forward for the YES campaign and see if I can be persuaded.
Neither does Pink Moon. Which is why I'm guessing he keeps dodging everyone who asks him to point out positives, and instead keep going round and round in circles about how their arguments are flawed but never offering anything contrary.
Yep, I spotted that too.
Yeah I had that on about page 31...
I'm not dodging questions because up until this page with Man Utd Mrs asking me what the positives are I wasn't aware people were asking me anything but rather telling me things.
Did anyone have the balls to answer whether or not Salmond was correct when he made accusations of scaremongering?
And I'll get round to replying to people asking for positives right now.
Did anyone have the balls to answer whether or not Salmond was correct when he made accusations of scaremongering?
And I'll get round to replying to people asking for positives right now.
I did, you must have missed that post.
I think there are at least two who said no, Alex Salmond is not 100% correct in his claims of scaremongering. He clearly isn't 100% correct.
There's your answer again: No.
I didn't ask if he was "100% correct". Nice try, though. With spin like that there's a job in the media for you if you wish.
Just as I can set up a shop only trading in $USD, obviously the overhead and cost of doing that would be much more than if I was to do so in a local currency.
You only get to call something scaremongering if you can back up your arguments. Merely repeating and cycling 'scaremongering' and 'bullying' ad nauseam does not make it true.
That's a great article, there is one quote in particular that caught my eye:
'Everything can be better “after the revolution”. It’s a brilliant recruitment tool because everyone with all their conflicting desires can imagine precisely what they want.'
and his final paragraph pretty much sums up all my fears for a successful yes vote:
I left the Yes camp and joined the No camp not because I like the UK or think the status quo works well as it is. No. I think things are as complicated and compromised as they always are and that we live in trying times. The Yes camp understand that and so have created an illusion of a free space in which everything you’ve ever wanted can come to pass – overnight. How can it? There are exactly the same political conflicts within the factions of Yes as there are within the UK. After a Yes vote the fight for control of Scotland will begin and that unity that seemed like a dream will be shattered into the different groups who agreed to silence themselves to achieve an illusion of an impossible unity – the kind of unity you find in faith, not in politics. What makes this worse than remaining in the UK is that Scotland will be fighting out its internal battles on a world stage after demonstrating it intends to run its new politics on an illusion of unity, a unity that breaks up even as it is observed.
You're obviously just a bully Marching, he has already said that he believes his policy of 'a commonsense agreement on a common currency will prevail' Surely that is enough to go on, his belief, I mean what reason would he have to lie, he's a politician so surely he can be trusted.
His 'common sense' is likely to be bonkers. There really is little incentive for the rest of the UK to maintain a currency union in the long term. It makes even less sense for Scotland to do so, basically lose influence on macro economic policy, all decisions regarding interest rates would be outside the influence of Scotland.
In here and throughout the news they're reporting that prices may go up yet they fail to report that in the Morrisons statement they say that prices could also be lowered depending on government policies. That to me is scaremongering and a deliberately biased attempt to sway voters.
Better Together are posting leaflets through doors which has a Tesco receipt stating prices would be such and such in an independent Scotland yet Tesco themselves came out and rubbished the legitimacy of it. That to me is also scaremongering.
If you disagree, cool, I quite simply don't give a feck.
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
I used a lot of words in that post.
It does seem like the entire Yes vote have no guarantees or clear path forward for what they want. It seems like they just so badly want to be independent, not because of A or B, just because they can be independent. Like if the vote is yes they'll all cheer like 'feck YEAH FINALLY. WE ARE FREE. I'VE DREAMT ABOUT THIS MOMENT FOR SO LONG' and then when nobody has any idea what the path ahead is, how to get there or what the implications or anything actually is because Salmond hasn't been able to answer that at any point in time, people will just put a brave face on and pretend they're not bothered 'but at least we're free!'
It seems like such a complete shot in the dark. It's troubling to be honest that the yes camp don't seem to want clearer answers and a solid plan with any kind of assurances.
It seems like such a complete shot in the dark. It's troubling to be honest that the yes camp don't seem to want clearer answers and a solid plan with any kind of assurances.
I think he is actually Alex Salmond.
You have to look at the wider public opinion, if there is a YES vote then there it's very likely the UK, and to a far worse extent the Scottish economy will be plunged into recession, after just coming out of a hideous recession. It would be a long time before the UK public would forget about that, so I think it would be a long time before any UK government would consider it, even if it made economic sense. By that time Scotland's oil revenue may be so far in decline that it's definitely not in the UK interest, especially add in the transition costs which will be huge.
Probably been said a few pages back but Betfair have paid out on the 'no' vote, prices last night were trading at around 1/3 for 'no', and 7/2 for 'yes, people might scoff but Betfair wouldn't be a bad guide to this, or certainly no less unreliable than many other guesses.
Reckon whichever way it goes it'll not be at the current 52 % - 48 % levels.
Reckon whichever way it goes it'll not be at the current 52 % - 48 % levels.
That's actually hugely irresponsible and could affect voter turnout and thus the result.
Not sure if you're been serious, but if you are then no it won't.
With the number of feckwits out there who take bookies actions as gospel there could be a good number of people who don't bother going to vote cos they think it's a done deal. With how close this thing is it could make a difference.