Alexander Buttner | 2013/14 Performances

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Looking forward to see who comes out to defend him today. This is the buttner we all know and hate. He played okay in his last outing, it might have been against a full strength Liverpool but it was also against a poor Liverpool.

He is not, and will not ever be United quality. Squad player or not.
 
Agreed - should have brought on Evra for him instead of Fellaini - would have given us a real chance. I am normally defending our players but Buttner is constantly giving balls and cheap free kicks away. He should only play in the CC and in dead CL games.
 
Didn't a scout say that he was 4th best LB in Holland last summer on our list or something like that ? He's shocking and shouldn't play for this club anymore. He's that bad.
 
For his sake he needs to improve and fast! I have my doubts about him defensively and he hasn't seemed to address them yet. Fabio is well worth a shot as the next best option to Evra.
 
Agreed - should have brought on Evra for him instead of Fellaini - would have given us a real chance. I am normally defending our players but Buttner is constantly giving balls and cheap free kicks away. He should only play in the CC and in dead CL games.

Not even those games. He's not good enough for United, not even as a squad player.
 
He's just a shit player, plain and simple. Countless step overs to deliver poor crosses again and again. Stupid tackles and angry talk to the ref as if it would render the foul to none.
 
i dont understand the buttner abuse really. hes perfectly competent as a back up left back.


He's incompetent at performing almost every one of his duties.
 
Just off the top of my head the mistakes he made today:

1) He allowed Anichebe (I think) to run through cleanly towards goal by moving completely out of the way for him thinking he was going to pass.
2) He decided to go to sleep when the ball went past him and slowly jogged towards it and was almost caught out as a west brom player almost ran past him but luckily managed to draw a foul
3) He left his man from the corner who got a free volley 3 yards away from goal.
4) He did a slide tackle and completely missed the ball.
5) He made 1 good cross, the rest poor.

Anything else I've forgotten? Compare that list to the amount of good things he did, okay in the end he improved going forward etc but his primary job is to defend and he has too many mistakes in him for me to ever think he could be good enough.
 
Really can't believe he gets in to the squad over Fabio who can play both left back and right back, and also happens to be a much better player than Buttner.
 
I don't even think he's PL level never mind playing for any team with title aspirations.
 
He's not all that bad going forward. I'd rather start him on the left wing than Young
 
Can the myth that he's "very good" going forward now be put to bed? He's good technically, but other than that he's just extremely average, except defensively, where he's poor.


I've been trying to put that myth to bed for a while. Alas, moneymay said he'll do a video of all the shit things buttner does so that we have evidence to throw at the ones who can't understand the abuse he gets. Speaking of them, where are they?
 
i dont understand the buttner abuse really. hes perfectly competent as a back up left back.


He really isnt. He's shambolic defensively. Him being left footed is the only reason I can think of why he gets in there ahead of Fabio.
 
Only place he should be playing is on the left wing, at least then someone is behind him when he can't be arsed to get back.
 
He really isnt. He's shambolic defensively. Him being left footed is the only reason I can think of why he gets in there ahead of Fabio.


Agreed. Being a left back means you are primarily a defender. If you can't defend well there's little use for such a player. Buttner is probably good as a squad player but at the moment not good or consistent enough. Learn that Moyes!
 
Said after his last game poorest first team squad player w have not United class and playing him in front of Evra or even Fabio who for me is not a natural left back is strange. I'd rather have Evans there than Buttner, time to move Buttner Anderson and Young on. Plus Rio and Giggs last year to let youngsters flourish hopefully.
 
Definitely not even close to being at the level required to play for our first team. Should be shipped off in the summer and find a suitable replacement for him (Shaw?). Even Fabio is a better option at this point.
 
Options at Left back when resting Evra.

Fabio
Evans(he has played their for NI)

Forget Buttner.
 
Only place he should be playing is on the left wing, at least then someone is behind him when he can't be arsed to get back.


No no no. The only place he should be is in the cab home. No way should he be played as a left winger, as much abuse as young gets, Buttner is on a next level of shiteness and today just further proves my points and we have enough options in attack to warrant Shittner never getting a game there.

He may have had a decent game against Liverpool, but like I said, I see nothing in him that suggests to me that he's capable of being a united player and that one game doesn't make him a decent option.

I thought I used to hate Gibson, but this guy takes it to a whole other level. To think Southampton were close to signing him, how luck an escape they got and they now have Shaw playing instead.

Options at Left back when resting Evra.

Fabio
Evans(he has played their for NI)

Forget Buttner.


Yeah, I would actually play Evans there ahead of Buttner, I remember him doing quite well against Chelsea in that position.
 
To be fair Evra deserved to get dropped after the City game as he was shocking but when you have an understudy like Buttner feck me its hard to do. This is where for me Moyes was bang on in the transfer window looking for Baines and Fabregas not his fault he club couldn't get them.
 
He's a poor left back defensively and he's okay going forward. He probably read the forum and thats why he thinks hes good going forward and a good crosser. Thats why he has the confidence to do a step over every time he gets the ball on the wing
 
I feel like I need to quote these posts from the Varela thread...

I'd play him as back up to either of our full back positions. Couldn't be any worse than Buttner.
How many times have you watched Buttner?
Ah, don't start. He's shit and has been since he arrived. That wasn't my point though, it was that I'd rather we gave this young guy a go ahead of Buttner, who clearly has no chance of making it here.

But to answer your question, probably as many times as you.
Okay he must be shit because some knobhead who has seen him twice and doesnt even pay for MUTV says so. fecking catch a grip of yourself
I do pay for MUTV. Are you confusing me with someone else? I've watched every minute he's played for the club, some of them actually, physically at the ground. I was there for his league debut, he scored and was a bit shit. He was only ever a cheap buy to cover for Evra so we could allow Fabio a loan to get some experience. I'm not sure why you're so annoyed at someone not rating Buttner.

What's your problem anyway? You're needlessly aggressive.
No problem, just annoys me when posters just dismiss players after seeing them once or twice. Nobody give anyone a chance anymore. Fair enough if you have watched him on Mutv.
As opposed to Match of the Day you mean? Or highlights? I watch every minute United play, either by streaming games that aren't broadcast on Sky or by watching the re-run on MUTV at 12am. I don't think anyone really needs to watch that much to see Buttner is never going to be a regular starter here. I'm not even convinced he provides adequate back-up. I'd be surprised if he was here much longer.
Still doesnt make him shit does it
I think he's shit. Make your mind up, does watching him on MUTV allow me to make a judgement on his ability or not? I'm not even one for being critical of players, I'm usually the opposite. I just don't see much in Buttner.

Do you think he's good?

Yeah it does but he isnt shit.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on it. Having watched every minute he's played for the club, I think he's a bit shit and I'd much rather see a young lad be given the minutes Buttner might get as back up in full back positions.
Are you serious Neviller? I am really happy your not our scout!
The Bebe bung has made every cnut that follows United a professional scout it seems.
Yeah, I'm serious. I don't rate him. Does anyone?

I don't presume to think I'm a professional scout, I'm just a guy who watches United closely. I just don't see too many positives with Buttner. The reason he was signed looks pretty clear to me, it allowed Fabio a loan move without leaving us light at left-back. I reckon the lack of trust placed in him, even in games where Evra could have been rested, tells you how highly rated he is at United.

I can't fathom why I'm getting so much stick for not rating Buttner. You guys do know we're talking about Buttner, right?
Point proven.
...and ask Ramshock, are you for fecking real?
 
I feel like I need to quote these posts from the Varela thread...


















...and ask Ramshock, are you for fecking real?

Yeah Im for real. My point with your retarded face was that you started on Buttner way back when he played ONE fecking game. The same shit you are pulling with Fellaini right now. You really want me to go back and highlight all your wonderful posts you absolute ballbag?
 
Yeah Im for real. My point with your retarded face was that you started on Buttner way back when he played ONE fecking game. The same shit you are pulling with Fellaini right now. You really want me to go back and highlight all your wonderful posts you absolute ballbag?
That was this summer, you ballroot.
 
That was this summer, you ballroot.


Difference between me and you Nev is I am willing to give a lad a chance to prove himself. Comes from my years of coaching average players and seeing them improve themselves. Buttner might not be your cup of tea and neither is Fellaini but SAF thought Buttner was worthy of joining our squad and our current boss thought Fellaini was. I am willing to stick to my own convictions and those two men over some miserable little cnut who cannot wait to see people fail.
 
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