The papers seem convinced its gonna happen and so do I, in truth.
Why another winger though? Perhaps we're selling Young.
Why another winger though? Perhaps we're selling Young.
Alexis Sanchez | Udinese: No Deal Yet
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Shirt burning is it.
The skepticism is understood, the tabloids have a way of making 2+2= infinity, but to then say that he'll "almost certainly" go to city makes you seem a bit masochistic to be fair. There's a possibility that he might go to city, thats accepted, but I wouldn't say its fairly certain. The same tabloids that are running our story were running the "clubs have agreed a fee story" last week about city!.
The only way I can see this transfer going to is that Berbatov look set to leave OT for good. Sanchez wpuld then play upfront while Young will add competition to the flanks. I doubt that its going to happen though and I'd rather see us spend some serious money in CM.
Wow, i've completed missed what's going on here. Is this actually on? Is it worth me going to work this morning with my cock out?
yes, intended as well. Learn your memes.
It's fair to assume based on media reports that the Young deal is effectively done.
If our interest in Sanchez is real and we did actually sign him I'm not sure why people seem to think that would mean the Young deal being scrapped.
I couldn't imagine a scenario where we tell Young the deal is off because we've pulled off the signing of a better option.
If our interest in Sanchez is real and we did actually sign him I'm not sure why people seem to think that would mean the Young deal being scrapped.
I couldn't imagine a scenario where we tell Young the deal is off because we've pulled off the signing of a better option.
This is our 'Benzema' thread. People going mental over a player we will not be able to sign.
At least we are getting it out of the way early this time.
At least we are getting it out of the way early this time.
I don't think it's that bad, because we don't really need another winger. So as much as it would be nice to sign a class player like Sanchez from under the City and Barca's noses, I think it would please the muppets more if we were close to signing a Sneijder or a Modric.
Cock-out time?
Already got my 7 Sanchez shirt ordered. Michael told me at the stables yesterday he was giving it up for him.
We've done so before
We fecked off a deal with Viduka - who had more or less agreed a deal with SAF and he been to his house several times for meetings - in January 2004 because we managed to land Saha
Which is what I like to call dodging a fat useless bullet
But getting a injury proned Saha who is made of glass.
Which was a lot better than the alternative
Then why are you posting in this thread?
Some of Charleysurf's other posts in the thread. Seriously what a dick.
Which was just for the sake of it and agreed, better than the alternative.
I don't see how it makes sense if we have signed Young, and for that reason I don't believe we are even interested. It's astonishing how everyone dismisses what's written in the sun, until it's a transfer rumour about a player coming to us. If it was one of ours on the way out we'd all call bullshit.
The papers know very little. The daily mail claimed 'Uniteds Jones bid in tatters' 24 hours before we signed him. The mirror had 'Ronaldo considering Manchester City' before he called bullshit on them
The papers know very little. The daily mail claimed 'Uniteds Jones bid in tatters' 24 hours before we signed him. The mirror had 'Ronaldo considering Manchester City' before he called bullshit on them
Errr. The Benzema fiasco was nothing like this was it?. I mean we were certainly interested, but were blown off by Lyon's pricing of their prized asset and from what i remember didn't meet the representatives from Lyon for Benzema. I'm fairly certain that Gill has met Pozzo since there are about 3 to 4 papers confirming the same.
If facts are as what is reported then a transfer is not near impossible. Barca are more than well equipped meaning sanchez won't have a great role in the side, City are not yet in the same league as United or Barca or any of the other teams mentioned. For a player of Sanchez's pedigree, i'm pretty sure that money isn't be all end all. So if the fees is agreed between the sides, i think we'd actually be slight favorites to land the guy. The general skepticism of acknowledging the tabloids is understood, but to say we don't stand a chance or that city will definitely get him smacks of masochism.
Come on baby, light my fire.
Its similar to Sarni, people seem to post thinking they know whats going on behind the board and how our team's financial issues are going on...
Not the muppetery we would expect from muppets like us who seriously consider any headlines we can consume.
Agreed with your summary there. If some people don't think we are gonna sign a high profile player than fair enough but don't post the same thing on every thread
It isn't obvious at all. I agree that Nani sometimes struggles to reproduce the consistency of performance on the left, but he has also performed very well from that side on numerous occasions. Familarity of position is the key to productivity.
At a time where the options were limited, Valencia's preference for the right was the reason that Nani was moved to the other side. If you accept that Nani is a better player than Valencia, your own argument suggests that it is Valencia and not Nani that should be worried.
Sanchez can operate in any of the forward positions, which is why he is so attractive. None of this suggests that Nani either will or should be fourth choice. As a right sided player I would choose him every single time over any of the other players, and despite a perceived lack of productivity, I would still select him ahead of Young on the left.
Jones was proof that SAF will sign a player we don't particularly "need" right now, even if the price is high, because they're just that damned good.
Do I think we'll actually get Sanchez? Probably not, but you never know.
Do I think we'll actually get Sanchez? Probably not, but you never know.
Entirely agree with this. Nani is our best winger and people seem to have forgotten that because of his average form on the back end of the season.
First XI (40-55 games)
------------------------Van De Gea------------------------
---P.Jones----------Rio------------Vidic-----------P.Evra-
----Nani-----------Carrick------Anderson--------A.Sanchez--
---------------------Rooney-----Berbatov--------------------
2nd XI (15-25 games a season)
-----------------------Lindegaard------------------------
---Rafael--------C.Smalling------P.Jones----------Fabio--
--Valencia--------Fletcher-------Giggs--------Park J S---
---------------------Welbeck-----Hernandez---------------
(Players #22-26): B. Amos, Joshua King, Ryan Tunnicliffe, Paul Pogba, Ravel Morrison, Will Keane
Out: o Shea, Gibson, W. Brown, Scholes (retired), Cleverly (loan to another EPL team), Macheda (sold prob to a mid-table Serie A Italian club or loan to an English Championship Team)
------------------------Van De Gea------------------------
---P.Jones----------Rio------------Vidic-----------P.Evra-
----Nani-----------Carrick------Anderson--------A.Sanchez--
---------------------Rooney-----Berbatov--------------------
2nd XI (15-25 games a season)
-----------------------Lindegaard------------------------
---Rafael--------C.Smalling------P.Jones----------Fabio--
--Valencia--------Fletcher-------Giggs--------Park J S---
---------------------Welbeck-----Hernandez---------------
(Players #22-26): B. Amos, Joshua King, Ryan Tunnicliffe, Paul Pogba, Ravel Morrison, Will Keane
Out: o Shea, Gibson, W. Brown, Scholes (retired), Cleverly (loan to another EPL team), Macheda (sold prob to a mid-table Serie A Italian club or loan to an English Championship Team)
But why sign Young? That's what's confusing about all of this if we are interested in Sanchez AND keeping Nani
edit: in the above team, in 2 teams, a place hasn't been found for Young!
edit: in the above team, in 2 teams, a place hasn't been found for Young!
Why is centre back Phil Jones playing fullback in your first XI instead of one of the twins? (or O Shea should he stay)
So we spend around 50m on the flanks while keeping the same central midfield (actually its weaker since Gibson will leave and Scholes had retired) that got its arse spanked by Barcelona. Brilliant.
Also you missed Evans
Whilst i agree with your point on Nani and Valencia, i wonder how we'll accommodate Young if we get Sanchez. Rooney and Sanchez would be ahead of him in the pecking order in the middle. Sanchez and Nani on the right hand side of midfield and Nani on the left hand side. Also taking into consideration that park would certainly be played incase we need protection for the midfield.
I'm not questioning the signing , i'm just curious to see (in your POV) where and how we'll accommodate young if we get him AND sanchez!.
That centre of midfield still isn't sorted though. I can't believe for a second Ferguson won't be buying one if purely to replace Scholes' squad position, not to mention Hargreaves.
We've never had a First XI per se for the past few seasons and i see that trend continuing, its horses for courses really. Your preference for 4-4-2 in quite visible and frankly we don't use it as much a flexible version of wing forwards along with rooney dropping to help the midfield.
Plus Jones who's so far played his career as a centre back is ahead of Rafael or Fabio in the right back position?
Abd you are not Fergie who has made it obvious Valencia is his preferred choice on the right. On the left is still to be decided, but I just can't see them spending £15-20m on someone who would accept 4th option.....and neither should Nani, which is why is sellable asset if these "deals" were to happen. Though I guess if Berba is sold, they could all still get plenty of games. But then that would probably mean Cleverley and Welbeck go back on loan, if not sold, considering Rooney is the oldest out of the other main forwards.
I don't think theres a definite first XI in the modern game, you have your first 15-18 players, and choose whos starting based on form/injury, unless you are Barca and are insanely lucky with players rarely being injured and/or losing form for long stretches.
De Gea*
Rafael/Fabio
Rio/Smalling
Vidic/Jones
Evra/Fabio
Fletcher/Giggs
Carrick/Anderson
Young/Nani
Valencia/Nani
Rooney/Sanchez
Hernandez/Berbatov
Guess it doesn't look so bad in that sense with Park, Cleverley, Welbeck happy to be role players at the moment. -_-
I have a suspicion that Nani is leaving. There was a lot of talk earlier on in the season about him going to Juve. If we covered Sanchez' fee with Nani's I would be quite happy. But the Muppet inside is yelling "WE'RE PLAYING SANCHEZ THROUGH THE MIDDLE, BEHIND ROONEY AND CHICHA, AND FLANKED BY NANI AND VALENCIA!! AND YOU THOUGHT ROONSTER AND RONNIE ON THE BREAK WERE GOOD, JUST WAIT TILL YOU GET A LOAD OF THIS!!!!"
So is he a winger or not?
errr... when?
errrrrrr.......really?
How many key games didn't Valencia start on the right in from when he returned?
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