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feck sake, some of you need to give it a rest. Like a bunch of old biddies sometimes.

On Anderson - it's hard to gauge his performance given how poor Blackburn were, but his pass completion rate was insane. Usually he gives the ball away a fair bit in an unforced manner, through overhitting the ball etc.

Pleasing that he finished the 90 minutes, in a two man midfield as well. Though again, we have to temper that with the fact that the pace of the game was very slow for a decent chunk of the second half.

Small acorns and all that...
 
datura said:
I don't think Anderson has ever looked a natural in the attacking midfield position. He seems far better picking the ball up from a deeper position with the game in front of him. His movement is not good enough for the attacking position and he has little to no goal threat. Park has looked the best option there for the time being.
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To be fair you're probably right, though I think Fletcher and Anderson can alternate and allow Carrick to sit.. even if there isn't really a goal threat, one hopes an on form Anderson can at least produce an assist when getting forward into space or Fletch can get into the box and grab a goal.
 
It's been a while since we had a CM who runs with the ball deep into the oppositions half. He looked excellent yesterday and seemed to enjoy the creative license to get forward.
 
Scholesy said:
So you didn't notice him passing the ball back to Rio or Vidic and then running towards them to receive it back, when he was already in plenty of space and could have played a pass forward, or even to the fullback. This is why I am frustrated. It's an accurate pass, but it is a negative period of play.
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Now here's a guy that really doesn't understand football....
 
sdb4884 said:
Good game from Anderson, should play well against another weak side in West Ham next weekend too.
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West Ham is in the Carling Cup mid-week, he probably won't feature considering he played the full 90 minutes against Blackburn.
Next weekend is Blackpool away. Will be interesting to see what Fergie does, with Carrick in good form, Fletch back and Scholes being Scholes.
 
Top said:
West Ham is in the Carling Cup mid-week, he probably won't feature considering he played the full 90 minutes against Blackburn.
Next weekend is Blackpool away. Will be interesting to see what Fergie does, with Carrick in good form, Fletch back and Scholes being Scholes.
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I'd fancy Ferguson to keep pushing Anderson. He's back to fitness, finding his form and surely is an important player for him to bring through for the future.

I'd fancy Ferguson bringing Fletcher back in for fitness reason's in the Carling Cup and Anderson to keep getting minutes too. Then at the weekend, Carrick to start alongside a fresh Scholes which will be key to picking Blackpool apart as although they seem to try and actually play football unlike some of the other lower teams.


It's strange, but great, to actually have these selection problems and options in the centre of midfield.
 
In the post match interview yesterday Phelan said it was important to have good partnerships all over the pitch. So in CM I imagine we'll see Scholes-Fletcher often, and Carrick-Anderson often too. Those two combos are probably the most balanced we have. Carrick-Fletcher would be a solid option for big games but does lack some invention.
 
Rowem said:
In the post match interview yesterday Phelan said it was important to have good partnerships all over the pitch. So in CM I imagine we'll see Scholes-Fletcher often, and Carrick-Anderson often too. Those two combos are probably the most balanced we have. Carrick-Fletcher would be a solid option for big games but does lack some invention.
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We do have some great partnerships.

Evra - Park link up well.
Rafael - Nani.
Rio - Vidic.
Rooney and Berbs.
Carrick and Anderson (needs a lot more games to prove itself but has the materials)
Scholes - Carrick
Scholes - Fletcher.
 
Pexbo said:
I'd fancy Ferguson to keep pushing Anderson. He's back to fitness, finding his form and surely is an important player for him to bring through for the future.

I'd fancy Ferguson bringing Fletcher back in for fitness reason's in the Carling Cup and Anderson to keep getting minutes too. Then at the weekend, Carrick to start alongside a fresh Scholes which will be key to picking Blackpool apart as although they seem to try and actually play football unlike some of the other lower teams.


It's strange, but great, to actually have these selection problems and options in the centre of midfield.
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By the end of the season I wouldnt be surprised to see Anderson become a fixture for us a la Nani last year. I know its early days, but this was the first performance I've seen Ando put in where I thought to myself "the boy has finally turned a corner". Time will tell if I've been proved to be correct, but a Fletcher-Carrick-Anderson midfield three could become absoloutely monstrous for us for the next 5-10 years.
 
Pexbo said:
I'd fancy Ferguson to keep pushing Anderson. He's back to fitness, finding his form and surely is an important player for him to bring through for the future.

I'd fancy Ferguson bringing Fletcher back in for fitness reason's in the Carling Cup and Anderson to keep getting minutes too. Then at the weekend, Carrick to start alongside a fresh Scholes which will be key to picking Blackpool apart as although they seem to try and actually play football unlike some of the other lower teams.


It's strange, but great, to actually have these selection problems and options in the centre of midfield.
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Been thinking about a Fletcher and Anderson partnership, and the one worry I have is how far up the pitch Fletcher plays these days. I know his natural game is more about pressuring and harrying than sitting deep and mopping things up, but I do think he might need to rein it in a bit if him and Anderson are going to function as well as Carrick and Anderson did yesterday.
 
I've always been a big fan of Anderson. While everyone here was berating him for abject performances I'm aware of what we saw of him when he replaced Scholes in his first season and played against Wigan. He pretty much ran that game from midfield in terms of finding attackers.

His attributes are that he's able to carry the ball from midfield into attack very quickly, pinning the centrebacks back opening up space fo the forwards and then finding them with rapier like passes. He is tough, can be innovative, quick, unpredictable etc.

He showed all of this in his first season and it's fair to say that he hasn't shown it since. However, he's still only 22. I saw this performance in its entirety and don't feel he was as good as people here are suggesting. By the standards he set in his first season he was okay. We started to see the glimpses of what Anderson (fit and on form) is all about. I feel good that this part of his game has come back (particularly carrying the ball and driving at the defence through the middle and up the chnanels). His moves led to 2 goals and 1 or 2 opportunities.

It has to be said that Anderson CAN play this type of game as long as he has someone solid alongside him. So Carrick's role in this game cannot go understated as Carrick gave the solidity in midifield which Anderson thrives on.

However, he still can improve. Firstly the consistency of his game, and secondly what I saw in this game wasn't the same as what I saw when he owned Gerrard and Fabregas in his first season. I don't know if that midfield general kind of role will come back - but perhaps the playmaker/attacking central midfielder comes back in its natural form, and he is able to develop this side of his game even further then I'm not sure that I see a central midfielder in the world like him - especially if he's able to ghost into the box with a few goals!
 
He was outstanding against Blackburn but let's not get carried away. That was his first good game in a very long time. He'll need to put together a good, solid run of games before we can start to really get excited.

I'm still far from convinced with Anderson, but I hope he keeps he place in the team (alongside Carrick) against Blackpool. We played some exhilarating football against Blackburn, and these two men in midfield played a big part in that.
 
I'd play Anderson against West Ham with Fletcher or Gibson to keep the momemtum going.

He should not be to knackered after Saturday and I think games are what he needs more than anything else. It's really good to see him back.

Some on here will be to young to get the comparison but Anderson's always reminded me very much of Norman Whiteside in his game in everything bar finishing(Norman was a quality finisher, whereas Anderson is utter shite at finishing).

He's got the same type of strength on the ball and the ability to run at players and also has a creative level of passing as well as being extremely powerful, strong and having the right attitude on how to play the game. Also a hard worker and not intimidated by anyone.

If we finally get him to realise his potential, iron out the weaker parts of his game and get him a propely defined position, we are onto a massive winner with Anderson.
 
Pexbo said:
We do have some great partnerships.

Evra - Park link up well.
Rafael - Nani.
Rio - Vidic.
Rooney and Berbs.
Carrick and Anderson (needs a lot more games to prove itself but has the materials)
Scholes - Carrick
Scholes - Fletcher.
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Valencia - Rooney :drool:
 
I don't get people's criticism of players that are at time conservative in their passing. I bet you all the people that whinge about Carrick or Anderson or whoever else at United making a sideways pass or back pass will be the same people that laud Barca players as been super creative even if they pass the ball back 100 times a game.

Spain/Barca midfielders are the masters of possession, they pass the ball amongst themselves constantly -back, front, side, angle whatever. It's not always a forward pass they make but, yet they are seen as creative.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a backward or sideways pass - it draws out defenders and opens up spaces. It tires out the opposition a lot of times and other times it just lends a bit of confidence to the player on the field.

Spurs/Pool game yesterday - stupid Spurs fans got on Palacios back because he made some errant passes and then mock cheered him when he completed a simple 10 yard pass. Unhappy when passes don't come off and get moody when the passes are kept simple ... fans I tell you.
 
He looked in fantastic nick not only technically but in terms of fitness too. Hope he gets a run with Carrick as they seem to be a good combo.
 
An in form Carrick can bring out the best of any of his midfield partners and that obviously benefited Anderson
 
olesmyhero said:
He played the full 90 on Saturday right? That's not happened too often the past year or so has it?
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Yep, he played the full 90.

Actually, last year before he got injured he was finally starting to be able to play the full 90 minutes. It looked like he was finally getting his fitness together after spending his first two seasons looking absolutely shattered as soon as we passed the 60 minute mark. But then he got injured and he hasn't had many chances since then.
 
Probably did cost United a goal there for poor closing down.

We always experiment quite a bit in the CC and Anderson-Fletcher's definitely that.
 
I thought he was good for 60 min and after that 3rd goal sort of lost it in terms of his passing. Still hes been miles better than anyone else on that pitch, having a partner like Fletcher wouldnt help anyone at this moment in time
 
Standing out today. (Doenst say much mind). Not his best performance, but a decent one.
Playing too deep for my liking though.

Miles better than Fletcher today.
 
My stream went off at about the hour mark. Thought he did pretty well given the standard of performances around him. Seems to be making driving runs regularly. I'm excited by his progress of late.
 
He's had a good game, only because Fletcher has had another stinker.

It's been poor all around. Anderson has just been less shitter then the rest.
 
Decided it wasn't worth the hassle after their 3rd goal. But up till that point, i thought he was quite good. He made some cracking runs and as when the chalkboard comes it'll back me up by telling how his long passes actually connected and met the player. Some of the passes were dare i say it scholes-esque. One pass to fabio lingers in memory..

I just love his runs, but he should have passed to giggsy just before he thought he'd try to get a freekick at the end...He's maturing the signs are there, with time he'll be brilliant. It'd also help if the people around him did turn up.

On today's performance i'd give him a 7 or a 7.5 at most. Our best player on the pitch by far
 
Not as concise with his passes today and some of the West Ham players have glided past him in a defensive sense.. which has left our defence exposed.

That said, its Fletchers job to put in a more defensive minded performance and he's just been all over the shop getting outmuscled by Boa Morte ffs.

I just hope Anderson doesn't fade into obscurity again after this performance and not trusted in bigger games, other players more at fault today.
 
he's got a double chin....in fact he starting to resemble Johnny Vegas.
 
Raees said:
Not as concise with his passes today and some of the West Ham players have glided past him in a defensive sense.. which has left our defence exposed.

That said, its Fletchers job to put in a more defensive minded performance and he's just been all over the shop getting outmuscled by Boa Morte ffs.

I just hope Anderson doesn't fade into obscurity again after this performance and not trusted in bigger games, other players more at fault today.
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He wont be getting a 99 passes with a 95% success rate thats for sure. But his long range passing was actually quite good. Only after the hour mark did they start hitting the first man on the way. He'd have a 85-90% pass completion rate which is not bad actually.

Anderson's never been the one to be aware of his defensive duties, sure he runs back and tackles sometimes, but isn't positionally aware as is the case with carrick. Which is the reason why some of his best games have been with carrick by his side. Fletcher doesn't mop up as good as carrick and we saw the problem it creates today.

All said and done, i thought Anderson was at fault for their disallowed goal and their first goal for stopping halfway while tracking back.
 
This is so annoying, what fecking game were you lot watching? Anderson was partly involved in us conceding the first for giving up on his man and he was is the goddamn opposition midfield when we conceded the second, and he was generally very slow to get back and protect the backline. Shocking, shocking sense of defensive positioning from him today, it is almost unbelievable.

He's not that much effective in offense either that you can afford to have him lag a little on his defensive duties. You simply cannot have a midfielder in your team in a 4-4-2 who doesn't know what to do when the opposition have the ball, West Ham basically skipped our midfield all night.

Good passing range though, maybe he'll come good someday.
 
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