He has all the tools to became a player like Yaya Toure for us. Whether he'd be as good as Yaya Toure, I don't know but certainly could give us the dynamicism and physicality in midfield.
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Not in CM - he's the same model as Yaya, needs to play as an AM but will always be passed over for a proper forward. Will play in midfield but lacks 90-min stamina.
Makes you wonder how Barcelona were so successful with him as their deepest midfielder.
Well, they were successful but he wasn't half the player he's been for City, for exactly the reason Pete gave.
An intelligent chap like you will appreciate that they played 433 not 4231.
So he didnt need to play as an attacking midfielder.
He's not actually fat you know?
He was forced to play as a 'defensive' midfielder for them. Whereas he's best played as an attacking midfielder who starts from deep, giving him space to get going on one of those unstoppable runs of his. That just didn't fit with Barcelona's football, and that's why he was never as dominant a player for them as he has been for City.
It's a similar thing to what is happening with Song. Song was one of Arsenal's most important creative players, who happened to be able to fulfil something of a defensive role too. So Barca bought him to be their new Macherano (now that Mascherano is their new Puyol
) and will only ever see 30% of what he offers as a player.You haven't seen any footage of after the photo was taken, he couldn't hold his breath much longer and the rest is history.He's not actually fat you know?
This is the exact mentality as to why Arsenal win feck all
Really? How? Doesn't seem to have much to do with it, to be honest.
As a United fan, ten men or no ten men, 2-0 down with half an hour on the clock doesn't indicate the game is dead, it indicates time to throw on another foward and unload on the opposition.
Anderson didn't come on against 10 men. Wilshere was sent off after Anderson came on. And even SAF admitted that he changed the game for us and was already dictating play before Wilshere got sent off.
I don't think he was saying the game was dead because the scoreline was 2-0, he was saying it was dead because, as anyone could see, Arsenal were slipping further and further out of it, rather than getting back into it as they would have to have been if a come-back was ever on.
Anyway, his actual point is only half right. Anderson wasn't better than Cleverley, and perhaps only appeared more influential to some because the game was thoroughly won by the time he came on, and more so when Wilshere was sent off (a consequence, it should be noted, of Cleverley outplaying him all game long). But none of this changes the fact that he played very well indeed. It is possible to put in a great performance against shit opposition.
There's this tendency when one midfield plays better than another to say that individual midfielders dominated each other. It used to happen a lot with Keane and Vieira.
Sometimes it is the case, but usually there's much more to it than that. Cleverley came out on top in a couple of challenges with Wilshere, but Wilshere was easily Arsenal's most influential player and I don't think it's true to say Tom outplayed him.
Sometimes it is the case, but usually there's much more to it than that. Cleverley came out on top in a couple of challenges with Wilshere, but Wilshere was easily Arsenal's most influential player and I don't think it's true to say Tom outplayed him.
Again, not true. The game was far from 'thoroughly won' when Anderson came on. It was still 1-0 and we were struggling to get into a tempo and finish our chances. Wilshere was sent off after Cleverly was already off the pitch, and even if he wasn't, attributing his sending off to being 'outplayed' is a tenuous link, at best.
Was Anderson better than Cleverly? Hard to say, but he definitely gave us a measure of control over the game that we didn't seem to have while Cleverly was on the pitch. We gained a lot more attacking wise, thanks to his forward runs and through balls to RVP.
Why are Anderson and Guilem Ballague hanging out shirtless?
We were struggling to finish our chances. We were firmly in our tempo. Cleverley had a lot to do with that.
I don't think it's tenuous at all. Again and again Cleverley was a step quicker than Wilshere. His first yellow was indisputably a direct result of that - Cleverley won the ball and used his quick feet to bring it cleanly into space, and Wilshere hacked him down out of frustration. He continued to be frustrated because Carrick and Cleverley were consistently winning that midfield battle. He got a warning for another frustrated foul and then, shortly after Cleverley had been sent off, made a third one and got his deserved red. But the pattern was set from very early on by his inability to get into the game.
Anderson gave us a bit of zest that had been missing, and a renewed forward drive. But the control over the game was already there, and had been from early on. Hence Arsenal's complete failure to have a single meaningful attack during Cleverley's time on the pitch. And regardless of the cause, Wilshere's sending off meant Ando spent most of his half hour playing against 10 men. And those ten men were already tired and pretty beaten. Arteta, particularly, seemed to have given up on having any kind of impact on the match. Nonetheless, Arsenal's most successful period of attack in the game was the last five or ten minutes, during which time it was Anderson, not Cleverley, who was on the pitch.
So I'm not sure where you've got the idea that we were more in control or in a better tempo once Anderson had come on, or that Anderson was better than Cleverley.
Anyone watching the game could see that Anderson stepped us up another gear, including Fergie.
excellent when he came on. two great performance is a row now. nice.
They've been together four years now - Guillem is the father of Anderson's two children.
(That's why Ando sometimes appears fat)
Let's see if he can make 20 as only that counts
I'm not really interested in having this debate to be honest. I don't think Anderson played better than Cleverly, I just think he changed the course of the game quite noticeably. Cleverly did a very important tactical job in the first half, but he certainly did not control the tempo and if you want to disagree, it would appear you have some vested interest here. Hence why I don't really want to use too much of my time having a back and forth about things which should be fairly obvious.
His weight/shape took a bit of a hammering on this weeks football weekly...
Why? He played 82 minutes of a match where he was constantly running up and down the park, resulting in 3 assists. Yes he was dead on his feet by the end of it, but it was the kind of box-to-box performance that we've been dying to see ever since it was apparent that Fergie wasn't going to play him as the out and out attacking midfielder that we had when we bought him.
They weren't really ciriticising (or even discussing) his performances... just his current body weight! Which they say is heavily on the rotund side of things.
Anyone got a picture of Ando from the weekend? Or am I going to have to google this myself...
Anyone got a picture of Ando from the weekend? Or am I going to have to google this myself...
Just more Rob Smyth hysterics to be honest.
They're all in the spoiler.
Recent pictures:
And one from the weekend:
Yep. The fat talk is never going to stop despite him clearly not being overweight.
Here's some pictures from last night's match:
Along with some pictures from him against Stoke just over a week ago:
The second picture in the first spoiler and the first picture in the second spoiler show it all - he's not fat.
I'd like to see the distance stats as well. I bet he'd be at the top or near the top - and with him barely playing this last month there's no wonder he needed to come off. Like someone else said it isn't a matter of fitness as much as his pacing he needs to work on. He can work flat out and get tired more quickly whereas others would conserve their energy a bit more - but that is the kind of player he is.
That is the best picture of the lot.
Here it is:
http://web.stagram.com/p/312481437695613062_190354101
And one from the weekend:
Anderson is fine. Look at this post for proof: https://www.redcafe.net/f17/anderson-333701/index49.html#post12452863
And here is another picture taken today:
What are the tattoos on his right arm? It looks like the outline of South America. Whatever it is, it's an atrocious tattoo.
He's literally just got a big arse tbh, but this makes his jersey puff out, giving the impression of fatness.
I think we just refer to him as fat as a term of endearment, I know I do. Big, fat Anderson.
He's a fat bastard, but a lovable one.
He's just got big bones.
Never understood this. Looking at the pictures posted from the weekends game and the picture of him without a shirt, its fairly clear that he isn't fat at all. I can't see how any pundits could be saying that he is, let alone for it to be a discussion point on the actual show.
Cheers
And I like how you've described a picture of two topless blokes as being "the best one"
Fitness is looking up, completed 90 minutes and was active as ever.
Having two half times probably helped.
Felt he needed a proper partner tonight though.
Having two half times probably helped.
Felt he needed a proper partner tonight though.
He was terrible in the first half, mainly due to the system and Braga parking the bus - he's never good against defensive teams.
He was very good when RvP came on and he was given a more central role.
Also, he's the happiest fecker in the squad. The sheer joy he showed when he manged to take down Hernadez after the third goal.
He was very good when RvP came on and he was given a more central role.
Also, he's the happiest fecker in the squad. The sheer joy he showed when he manged to take down Hernadez after the third goal.
Ando loves celebrating. We should keep him forever just for that.
Yeah, but there was that 11 minute period where he went completely missing.
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