I'd say LVG 'aggregate impact' on players over the course of his career suggests he was good at it too.
Angel di Maria: I was played out of position at Man Utd
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I'd say LVG 'aggregate impact' on players over the course of his career suggests he was good at it too.
Di Maria lacked any intelligence. Tactical football we try to play does not work with Lab Rats.
He was probably good at it at one point but he's been dismal since he became our manager. He often gets credit for giving a slew of kids a shot, but that masks the underlying reality that nearly all of our established players have been dire since he joined us, which was probably a continuation of Moyes' work.
Certainly.
Definitely and that's demonstrated by the fact that Mourinho, Ancelotti or Jorge Jesus aren't great tactical coaches.
Van Gaal is better than all of them, he is the father of the tacticians. He invented the modern tactics in the 90's.
You don't go from world class to nothing just because of position change. He is a talent but obviously not that good in the head.
This we were always just a holding spot to him
So he gave up, something which he alone is responsible for
Out of position?? In how many games??? The only position he was played out of position was one of the striker in 3-5-2
Gabriel Heinze, Carlos Tevez & now this treacherous turd! At least Heinze & Tevez put in performances for us! For me, Di Maria was the biggest disappointment to ever pull on the red shirt! Ugly bastard to boot! Good riddance ..
How dumb can you get? You buy a player for all that money and then play him out of position.
He wasn't interested almost from the start. He is a whiny spoilt arrogant cowardly lazy little weasel. And there is not nearly enough hate on here for the scumbag agent that brought it here knowing full well it was for a season until psg could buy it
agreed, i mean i don't think anyone can argue that he really wanted to be here and gave it his all, but the manager didnt help.
remembering back to the start of last season our formations where all over the place, he was trying to fit, RVP Rooney, Falcao and Di Maria all in and the formations he came out with where offen bizzare and changing massivly week on week.
So while Di Maria defiantly has to take some of the blame, it can't of helped coming to a new club in a new league and getting his position changed constantly.
Yes because Jose is such a terrible tactician that be basically derailed our title challenge last season by marking Fellaini out of the game which every team subsequently copied.
And ancelotti is so bad that he spotted the best formation for Real Madrid which included moving Di Maria into the LCM role... Yep didn't get the best out of him
Whoops. Apologies - Early Sunday morning hangover fail.
It seems fairly logical doesn't it. But apparently LVG did not understand this very simple concept.
Imagine buying Suarez or Neymar and playing them out of position. The manager which did this would get lynched.
Di Maria was great before and after his season with us. LVG just does not understand how to manage top class players who have their own ideas/egos.
What I'd like to see are interviews with the rest of our team and see if they also blame LVG for our poor performances. I suspect that they would also say exactly the same thing as Di Maria.
Yes its that simple, just look at how many players have under performed under this manager...
I dunno. If he wants to play in France where there's no competition then good luck to him. When he had that 'burglary' to be fair to him - he wanted to play. However his performances probably make him the worst United player in my lifetime. He was crap. Now maybe he's not happy where he was played - but he was crap. The one thing I would add is at the time, listening to LVG.....he did nothing to suggest we would fight to keep him. He seemed to have went off him pretty quick.
Di Maria can have a dig all he likes. He's playing in a no mark league. All PSG have is money. That's it. That's fine for some.
Di Maria can have a dig all he likes. He's playing in a no mark league. All PSG have is money. That's it. That's fine for some.
End of the day, I believe that no matter where we had played DiMaria he was going to feck off to PSG, where he wanted to be anyways. So who gives a flying rats ass about that quitter anyways
I don't think he was played out of position, the positions he played in never prevented him from running around like a headless chicken and takings shots from impossible angles and distances. Some of those shots turned out to be an assist though. He didn't want to be here, but he also didn't want to use his brain while playing. His talent allows him to keep playing like the kid who is much better than the other kids, but he will never be as good as he could have been.
Me neither, well, aside from being played on the left wing, the right wing, up front, attacking midfield, back up front, some weird wing back thing. Actually pretty much everywhere except his best position, the position he actually played in the first few months when he was really good. But c'mon, like he played at least 4 games there, how dare he claim he was used out of position!
Exactly, plenty of players are being played out of position under LVG but most of them get on with it and at least try. You're paid a humungous wage and unless he was asked to play in goals or central defence he should have been able to acquit himself well enough if he had a better mentality.
Not saying it was right to play him out of position but leaving after 1 year after just giving up even trying was a measure of the type of player he was.
He wasn't really good, he showed a lot of promise. I don't know what his position is, he's at his best at the outside, going around his defender on the outside, or drifting inside, depending on what he feels like. Which position suits that role best depends on the rest of the system and tactics. He hasn't got the brain to play in the centre as a playmaker.
Maybe that's the reason why.
He started off okay, then got stifled by the philosophy. He hasn't been the only one.
No. He got injured and his understudy played better than him. His only job was to dislodge Young but hey...he is a superstar, he deserves better. Mourinho played him everywhere at Madrid, wonder why he didn't pack up and leave.
Veron did not workout for us and was played out of position a lot but he gave his all, even if it wasn't good enough you knew he was trying.
Veron did not workout for us and was played out of position a lot but he gave his all, even if it wasn't good enough you knew he was trying.
Little blame lies with LVG here.
SAF switches players around a lot, but many of them still gave their all for the team. Blind has been shifted in several positions but you can't accuse him of lacking heart.
Di Maria just wasn't trying enough. Seriously most of the CAF thinks Young hardly deserves to be a United player and Di Maria couldn't even displace him. I believe ADM is a very talented player and he simply didn't bother.
It's just excuses. I am not suggesting the burglary did not have impact, it definitely hurt his family. But some responsibility has to be shouldered by himself for his performances. It's convenient to come out now with his because LVG is under the kosh. Makes it more believable. Look at the fans who are desperate to get rid of LVG lap it up.
SAF switches players around a lot, but many of them still gave their all for the team. Blind has been shifted in several positions but you can't accuse him of lacking heart.
Di Maria just wasn't trying enough. Seriously most of the CAF thinks Young hardly deserves to be a United player and Di Maria couldn't even displace him. I believe ADM is a very talented player and he simply didn't bother.
It's just excuses. I am not suggesting the burglary did not have impact, it definitely hurt his family. But some responsibility has to be shouldered by himself for his performances. It's convenient to come out now with his because LVG is under the kosh. Makes it more believable. Look at the fans who are desperate to get rid of LVG lap it up.
600 miles out of position in Manchester.
They are not in the same way though are they. Mourinho's teams are very straight forward compared to Guardiola's, LvG's or any disciple of the Dutch school of football. Ancelotti is the same. That is not a grind on them but the names you mentioned really do not focus on the same tactical aspects as what a LvG would.
To be honest, I don't blame LVG at all for this. LVG is on record saying he pleaded with him to give it another go.
It's no surprise the PSG Rumours started as soon as he started playing poorly. The Rumours that PSG were coming back to sign him started as early as November 2014 when his form nose dived.
He n ver wanted to be here and when things got tough, he downed tools. Some of his bad habits were on display last night and you can't blame any manager for getting angry with him.
Some people forget how awful he was and had nothing to do with possession football or formation or position on the pitch.
He was hitting crosses into the stands, trying to dribble two players in his own half when a counter was on, misplacing five yard passes under no pressure and very little desire to track back.
A part of me even thinks he was playing poorly on purpose.
Club were absolutely right to sell. He would have had another awful hear and his value would have plummeted.
It's no surprise the PSG Rumours started as soon as he started playing poorly. The Rumours that PSG were coming back to sign him started as early as November 2014 when his form nose dived.
He n ver wanted to be here and when things got tough, he downed tools. Some of his bad habits were on display last night and you can't blame any manager for getting angry with him.
Some people forget how awful he was and had nothing to do with possession football or formation or position on the pitch.
He was hitting crosses into the stands, trying to dribble two players in his own half when a counter was on, misplacing five yard passes under no pressure and very little desire to track back.
A part of me even thinks he was playing poorly on purpose.
Club were absolutely right to sell. He would have had another awful hear and his value would have plummeted.
They are all different and Di Maria adapted fine, but when he doesn't adapt to LVG it's because he is dumb?
im confused. what do you think his best position is?
It doesn't mean he is dumb. Just like Fàbregas, Sanchez and a plethora of brilliant players are not dumb or bad because they couldn't adapt to Barcelona's game. It's just not suited that's all. When it comes to Di Maria, I really don't understand the idea that he was this world beater to begin with. We are talking about a player whose entire career was considered as no better than our Nani. Another talented yet inconsistent winger. He goes on to have an admittedly brilliant 6 months in 2014 and suddenly, people were starting to talk about him as though he was Robben. His performances now at PSG are again nowhere near the unquestionably world class player some would like us to believe. I would say that his performances for us were closer to his general level throughout his career than those 6 months at Real. The biggest mistake in that episode was that we were desperate to get a big name in and in our desperation, we mistook him for one.
Mate, I responded to a post.
I did want to hear from other MUFC who played under LVG, to see what they thought of LVG.
Here's Nani:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/dunc...-all-like-kids-it-was-crazy/10154075526998057
Here's Nani:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/dunc...-all-like-kids-it-was-crazy/10154075526998057
Dire today. Maybe he just can't do it on a Tuesday night in Manchester.
welcome back, we found your spine for you
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