Antoine Griezmann - Performances 2017/18

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This guy has not been playing at his level this season so far to my understanding. I desperately wanted us to sign him last Summer. As it stands you'd think he's not an £80m player but maybe his performances are suffering because he missed a chance to move to anoher club.

I've read that Diego Simeone has been trying to make use of Griezmann's creative talents a little more this season rather than use him only as a goalscorer. I don't know if he has enough creativity and composure when away from goal to be our #10, can anybody who watches him regularly tell me if I'm wrong?

It seemed odd to me that he didn't have a performances thread seeing as we've been linked to him, and the mods don't like talk of performances in the Transfer thread. I'd like to hear more about how he has played so far this season because there aren't many places I can find to look other than r/Atletico who focus more on the team performance than individual discussion anyway.
 
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He started the season slowly. 3 goals (1 of which is a pen) and 2 assists in almost 1000 minutes of football. Not terrible, by any means, just not great.

Not sure about that quote regarding Simeone using his creative side more. He's played basically as a CF in all games this season.I was always personally of the opinion that we needed more of a #10 and/or RW, positions that Griezmann hasn't occupied much in his career. He started as a LW and then played as a SS/CF. Which is why despite his class I was always a bit sceptical of signing him.
 
Seems to me the whole Atletico team is just trying to grind it out till January when Vitolo and Diego Costa are eligible to play. Adding to that, his focus is probably not the same since the transferban made him miss out on a transfer.
 
MadMike said:
He started the season slowly. 3 goals (1 of which is a pen) and 2 assists in almost 1000 minutes of football. Not terrible, by any means, just not great.

Not sure about that quote regarding Simeone using his creative side more. He's played basically as a CF in all games this season.I was always personally of the opinion that we needed more of a #10 and/or RW, positions that Griezmann hasn't occupied much in his career. He started as a LW and then played as a SS/CF. Which is why despite his class I was always a bit sceptical of signing him.
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Would be a dream here as a SS. Him and Lukaku would add fire power galore. All out for Sanchez as well and we would make massive strides going forward in my opinion both very gettable due to their unique situations.
 
Imagine the 3-4-1-2 from Saturday with Griezmann as a SS and a new creative #10 backing him and Lukaku up :drool:
 
MadMike said:
He started the season slowly. 3 goals (1 of which is a pen) and 2 assists in almost 1000 minutes of football. Not terrible, by any means, just not great.

Not sure about that quote regarding Simeone using his creative side more. He's played basically as a CF in all games this season.I was always personally of the opinion that we needed more of a #10 and/or RW, positions that Griezmann hasn't occupied much in his career. He started as a LW and then played as a SS/CF. Which is why despite his class I was always a bit sceptical of signing him.
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Yeah I read that thing about his creativity on r/Atletico so I assumed they were onto something seeing as they presumably watch all of Atletico's games.

I can't help but feel as a #10 he would go missing a lot, similar to Mata and Mkhitaryan. He would probably be productive in front of goal but I think you need more when you aren't a striker.

I wonder if Griezmann would be good as a #10 in a 3-5-2 or inside forward in a 3-4-3. I think Mourinho sees that kind of system as the future of this United team; he was probably building towards something like that given he wanted Perisić.

The only question about playing him as a striker with Lukaku is where do Rashford and Martial fit in then?
 
Look at this pass to Correa yesterday.

 
Great one touch pass and great first touch to get into scoring position as well. Correa probably will be the next in line like Aguero Torres Falcao and Costa before him.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Imagine the 3-4-1-2 from Saturday with Griezmann as a SS and a new creative #10 backing him and Lukaku up :drool:
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Id prefer a 3142 - similar to how Juventus played, where they played with three centre midfielders, as opposed to 2 centre mids and one attacking mid.

Think it'd suit most of our players, and to be fair, we havent really got any top quality number 10s anyway.

De Gea
Bailly Smalling Jones
Matic
Valencia Box to box Pogba Wing back
Griezmann
Lukaku

Romero Rojo Darmian Herrera Fellaini Rashford Martial
 
Griezmann is the ideal no.10 for us,simply a better player and definitely an upgrade on what we currently have in that position,also if you have Rashford and Martial interchanging out wide and Lukaku as the spearhead you have a dynamic front 4 with a goal threat from any angle and pace, so yes,Griezmann will absolutely take us up another level from current incumbents Mata/Miki, hopefully he is ours next year!!
 
Fluke! Clearly trying to shoot

Is he actually a number 10 or more a wide player in a front 3?
 
Imo his numbers decreased because he doesn't have a proper CF partner that he can play with this season. He is more on his own and paired with other mobile/second strikers like vietto or correa.
I haven't seen enough of their games to be entirely sure so.
 
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Walters_19_MuFc said:
Id prefer a 3142 - similar to how Juventus played, where they played with three centre midfielders, as opposed to 2 centre mids and one attacking mid.

Think it'd suit most of our players, and to be fair, we havent really got any top quality number 10s anyway.

De Gea
Bailly Smalling Jones
Matic
Valencia Box to box Pogba Wing back
Griezmann
Lukaku

Romero Rojo Darmian Herrera Fellaini Rashford Martial
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Martial and Rashford both on the bench is never happening, and neither should it.

The better system is 3-5-2 with Lukaku/Martial or Lukaku/Rashford upfront together.

Having 3 CB's doesn't require 3 CM's.
 
reddaz71 said:
Griezmann is the ideal no.10 for us,simply a better player and definitely an upgrade on what we currently have in that position,also if you have Rashford and Martial interchanging out wide and Lukaku as the spearhead you have a dynamic front 4 with a goal threat from any angle and pace, so yes,Griezmann will absolutely take us up another level from current incumbents Mata/Miki, hopefully he is ours next year!!
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I am ok with Rashford and Martial competing for LW, but some people are overrating them. Going forward, we definitely need a new RW in addition to Griezmann to address our lack of goal-threat.
 
So Atletico all but out of the Champions League by Christmas. Any chance of a possible deal in January now?

Even though his performances have really dropped this season at Atletico. I hope it's just a case of him wanting to move that that's the reason for it :nervous::nervous:
 
I have a strong feeling he's going to end up being a disappointment like Mata and Mkhi here.
 
Wayne's World said:
So Atletico all but out of the Champions League by Christmas. Any chance of a possible deal in January now?

Even though his performances have really dropped this season at Atletico. I hope it's just a case of him wanting to move that that's the reason for it :nervous::nervous:
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Doubt it. He made the choice to stay in the Summer.
 
Wayne's World said:
So Atletico all but out of the Champions League by Christmas. Any chance of a possible deal in January now?

Even though his performances have really dropped this season at Atletico. I hope it's just a case of him wanting to move that that's the reason for it :nervous::nervous:
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I was going to post this exact same thing. If Atletico are out of the title race then what keeps him in Spain? With Costa coming in?
 
Not looking close to 50 million player even. His heart is not at athletico and they simply dont have a number 9 to play him off. I think they will improve with costa in second half of the season, should we sign him? Waiting till the summer would be best option.
 
Yea I don't buy this "the club is not in his mind" excuse. We matched his buyout, the club had no real power in stopping him from leaving, it was up to him if he wants to sign and play for us or not. He might have chose to stay for a proper reason, in the end, it was still his own decision. He even got an improved contract this summer for that transfer saga. The professional thing to do is to give it all you've got for the team, and then move on when the original reason of staying no longer applies.
 
He hasn't been very impressive in his performance to be fair and honest, but I'll still take him any day as long as the reason isn't declining. May be he just needs new challenge with a club really seeking trophies.
 
Is anybody having secodn thoughts about wanting him now? I still think a creator might better for us in the AM position rather than somebody who is basically a second striker. Then again, I also think Lukaku would be better with a strike partner to play off him, but we have Rashford and Martial for that anyway.
 
His numbers don't seem to have changed(his shots per game, passing accuracy etc), just probably having a poor spell in front of goal.
 
He has been poor this season, seems his heart is not in it.

I don't think we need him in our team currently, think we need more creative players in the team right now.
 
He has been average this season. Not that poor. He was very good against Barcelona three weeks ago and doesn't seem very fit.

I'm still waiting for his partnership with Diego Costa from Jan this year.

As for us, we are that poor in our game that any big player will be welcome here. The fact is that if he comes, I can see us very strong in a 3-5-2 but it will be instead of Rashford and Martial development, and in a 4-4-2, it will be also very difficult for both to play week in week out and have chances.
 
Lawman said:
Would be a dream here as a SS. Him and Lukaku would add fire power galore. All out for Sanchez as well and we would make massive strides going forward in my opinion both very gettable due to their unique situations.
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Sanchez Griezmann Lukaku Martial Rashford for the front four positions? I hope not. That's strikers in positions that should be filled by wingers and creative midfielders. The attack will be uneeringly static and will be unable to keep the ball in the final third.
 
Mcking said:
Sanchez Griezmann Lukaku Martial Rashford for the front four positions? I hope not. That's strikers in positions that should be filled by wingers and creative midfielders. The attack will be uneeringly static and will be unable to keep the ball in the final third.
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An attack of

Lukaku
Martial Griezmann Sanchez

Would not be static Griezmann is always on the move. Lukaku runs the channels as well plus both Sanchez and Martial have the ability to take men on. Sorry but I cannot agree with you. The only static one of these players is really Martial who needs to improve on in this area but I’m sure it will come. Also an attacking left back would help. I cannot see how this attack wouldn’t be terrifying for opposing teams. There wouldn’t be many better in Europe in my opinion.
 
wr8_utd said:
I have a strong feeling he's going to end up being a disappointment like Mata and Mkhi here.
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Probably. Because the problem in attack is tactical, and not down to individual qualities.
 
he is definitely not a 100m player... hopefully we wont spend that ridiculous amount if we are still in for him !
 
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Probably. Because the problem in attack is tactical, and not down to individual qualities.
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Its both really, A prime rooney would have created and link up much better at 10 also being a second striker. Griezmann has those qualities that rooney had.

Besides mata is rarely played at 10 because of right wing problem and decision making . He could do well in tight pressure there, but mourinho hardly plays him there.
 
Lawman said:
An attack of

Lukaku
Martial Griezmann Sanchez

Would not be static Griezmann is always on the move. Lukaku runs the channels as well plus both Sanchez and Martial have the ability to take men on. Sorry but I cannot agree with you. The only static one of these players is really Martial who needs to improve on in this area but I’m sure it will come. Also an attacking left back would help. I cannot see how this attack wouldn’t be terrifying for opposing teams. There wouldn’t be many better in Europe in my opinion.
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Maybe static is probably the wrong word, but do you agree that the attack will find it difficult to keep the ball in the final third?
 
Chaky_Best said:
He has been average this season. Not that poor. He was very good against Barcelona three weeks ago and doesn't seem very fit.

I'm still waiting for his partnership with Diego Costa from Jan this year.

As for us, we are that poor in our game that any big player will be welcome here. The fact is that if he comes, I can see us very strong in a 3-5-2 but it will be instead of Rashford and Martial development, and in a 4-4-2, it will be also very difficult for both to play week in week out and have chances.
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We are a flexible team, Who can play every system out there accroding to the need and team you are facing.
 
Some miss the big picture.

Challenging times for a club like Atletico that is looking for a revival.

Griezmann/Lukaku would be tasty duo
 
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