Antonio Conte | Chelsea Manager 16/17

[izec]

Really good appointment. Exciting times in the PL next season

 

[Randall Flagg]

No real surprise.

Another reason as to why we can't go in to next season under LVG or Giggs.

yeah we should go for the guy who had the champions in a relegation scrap and got his ass fired instead

 

[Lurpak99]

He's probably gonna show that you can actually do well playing 3-5-2 in the PL.

 

[Mister_Stubbs]

yeah we should go for the guy who had the champions in a relegation scrap and got his ass fired instead

This debate has been had a thousand times on this forum already.

I'd be much happier taking on Chelsea/Conte, City/Guardiola with Jose in charge.

 

[devilish]

overrated and no where near to Maureen

 

[VanGaalEra]

Mourinho
Pep
Wenger
Klopp
Conte
Benitez
Raneri
Poch

Crazy times!

 

[Skåre Willoch]

Mourinho
Pep
Wenger
Klopp
Conte
Benitez
Raneri
Poch

Crazy times!

He'll be waiting tables in the championship, though.

 

[gofelx]

I'm really not sold on him. Sure he won the League with Juve, but his team looked clueless in the CL. Allegri, who many considered as a significant downgrade when he was appointed, has done a much better job with this Juventus team.

 

[Gol123]

overrated and no where near to Maureen

Better win % in Serie A

Wait till next season before making bold predictions like that. Lots can happen between now and then.

 

[Orc]

He's probably gonna show that you can actually do well playing 3-5-2 in the PL.

We're gonna need one hell of a makeover in defense and midfield in order for that to happen. I hope to God we sign a couple of midfield beasts (we've been linked with Nainggolan, Vidal, Kanté) and at least 2 new defensive players.

Fabregas will be his Pirlo I hope with two pit bulls doing the leg work allowing him to spray it around. A mobile CB signing is a must.

 

[Balu]

We're gonna need one hell of a makeover in defense and midfield in order for that to happen. I hope to God we sign a couple of midfield beasts (we've been linked with Nainggolan, Vidal, Kanté) and at least 2 new defensive players.

Our Vidal?

 

[Gol123]

Our Vidal?

Don't want an alcoholic in our team and there have been no substantial rumours.

 

[Adisa]

Chelsea will hope he's more tactically flexible than just 352. The last thing Chelsea need is becoming more narrow.
On another note,nHazard better buckle up.

 

[Balu]

Don't want an alcoholic in our team and there have been no substantial rumours.

I doubt an alcoholic could play in modern football the way he plays at the moment.

 

[Gol123]

I doubt an alcoholic could play in modern football the way he plays at the moment.

I don't like the reports about him at Bayern. We have enough bad eggs in our team without adding another one.

As fir who we have been linked to, many players have popped up. Hummels, Naingollan, Pjanic, Matuidi, bringing back Christensen, Kante and some guy called Manolas. Its hard to tell the truth from the lies.

It certainly seems like he isn't sold on Fabregas as the main creator of the team and recognises that we need to sort out our defense, which is encouraging. I'm a bit worried about the pack of forwards being linked to us but its hard to make guesses to what signings he wants when I'm not even sure on his preferred formation.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

As fir who we have been linked to, many players have popped up. Hummels, Naingollan, Pjanic, Matuidi, bringing back Christensen

Better than being linked with every Dutch player on the planet after LVG's appointment: from Vlaar to Robben.

 

[Orc]

Our Vidal?

Just some shit quotes from the both of them saying they'd love to work together again or something. Nothing substantial. Personally, if it were at all possible to sign him I'd have him of course, but I'd rather sign younger players.

I see no reason at all he'd want away from Bayern after one season, though.

 

[devilish]

Better win % in Serie A

Wait till next season before making bold predictions like that. Lots can happen between now and then.

I may be mistaken of course but I have a very bad feeling about this

a- Juventus managers are supported by one of the most organized director setup in Italy (which in my opinion is even better to that of United by a mile). The system is always the same and had been working for the past 30 years. The manager has little say about transfers and is restricted only in coaching the team, decide the formation and giving advice on what players the club should buy (that advice is not always taken, hence why Conte left Juventus) and coaching the team. This system may sound like a straight jacket to the manager but its also protects them from themselves. The great Marcello Lippi failed miserably at Inter as he kept messing up in the transfer market and was only good with Juventus and Italy (the latter role is similar to that of the typical Juventus manager). How will Conte act without such backup? He certainly didn't covered himself with glory with Italy.

b- Conte relies heavily on the 3-5-2 system which is a system LVG had tried to implement with us and failed miserably. He does come across as the typical Italotto manager ie he's a born disciplinarian (which will piss off many players at Chelsea) and his knowledge about football doesn't go much beyond the Serie A. I believe that he will struggle to the high tempo of the English football and I pretty much doubt he even know how to speak English in the first place.

c- If you think that you will avoid drama by sacking Mourinho well think again. Conte is quite a cry baby himself. He threw the dummy because bad Juventus didn't bought him Cuadrado and had issues with the national side too

 

[Gol123]

I may be mistaken of course but I have a very bad feeling about this

a- Juventus managers are supported by one of the most organized director setup in Italy (which in my opinion is even better to that of United by a mile). The system is always the same and had been working for the past 30 years. The manager has little say about transfers and is restricted only in coaching the team, decide the formation and giving advice on what players the club should buy (that advice is not always taken, hence why Conte left Juventus) and coaching the team. This system may sound like a straight jacket to the manager but its also protects them from themselves. The great Marcello Lippi failed miserably at Inter as he kept messing up in the transfer market and was only good with Juventus and Italy (the latter role is similar to that of the typical Juventus manager). How will Conte act without such backup? He certainly didn't covered himself with glory with Italy.

b- Conte relies heavily on the 3-5-2 system which is a system LVG had tried to implement with us and failed miserably. He does come across as the typical Italotto manager ie he's a born disciplinarian (which will piss off many players at Chelsea) and his knowledge about football doesn't go much beyond the Serie A. I believe that he will struggle to the high tempo of the English football and I pretty much doubt he even know how to speak English in the first place.

c- If you think that you will avoid drama by sacking Mourinho well think again. Conte is quite a cry baby himself. He threw the dummy because bad Juventus didn't bought him Cuadrado and had issues with the national side too

Like I said, I'm not making any prediction till the season begins. Too many variables for multiple teams in the league.

 

[Anduin]

Not arsed, I'm not convinced he's as good as some think. Winning titles with that Juventus side is fine, but no major achievement. Allegri has done as good as him if not better, and I wouldn't be worried if he was managing one of our rivals as well.

We need to get our shit together and appoint Mou though, but that's another matter anyway.

 

[Zoo]

I'm really not sold on him. Sure he won the League with Juve, but his team looked clueless in the CL. Allegri, who many considered as a significant downgrade when he was appointed, has done a much better job with this Juventus team.

This Chelsea team are nowhere near to winning the CL. They need an identity and Conte after his work with Juve is the better candidate to give them that.

 

[JPRouve]

Not arsed, I'm not convinced he's as good as some think. Winning titles with that Juventus side is fine, but no major achievement. Allegri has done as good as him if not better, and I wouldn't be worried if he was managing one of our rivals as well.

We need to get our shit together and appoint Mou though, but that's another matter anyway.

He kind of built the team Allegri is using.

 

[devilish]

Like I said, I'm not making any prediction till the season begins. Too many variables for multiple teams in the league.

I am a big fan of the Serie A and their managers. However I assure you, you're not signing an Ancelotti here.

 

[Balu]

He certainly didn't covered himself with glory with Italy.

A bit early to say that? He hasn't done much wrong yet, qualifying for the Euro, topping the group without losing a game. Maybe let him have at least one tournament before judging him?

 

[devilish]

He kind of built the team Allegri is using.

Beppe Marotta, Nedved and Agnelli did that. Conte threw the dummy because Juventus didn't want to buy him Cuadrado

 

[Anduin]

He kind of built the team Allegri is using.

Yes and no. There's been a lot of change in the current Juventus setup since Conte left (Pirlo, Vidal the obvious ones, while a major influence like Tevez also left), and they are as good as ever. There simply is little (consistent) competition at the top in the Serie A to pose a thread to Juventus ATM.

 

[devilish]

A bit early to say that? He hasn't done much wrong yet, qualifying for the Euro, topping the group without losing a game. Maybe let him have at least one tournament before judging him?

They don't like him in the role. Once again he's bitching that promises weren't kept something Conte had been moaning about since his Juventus time. For me he's a Mourinho without the brilliance.

 

[Gol123]

I am a big fan of the Serie A and their managers. However I assure you, you're not signing an Ancelotti here.

Good. Ancelotti was a pussy who was too afraid to stand up for himself. Let the players dictate him too much and let Abramovich drive right over him.

I really hope Conte sucks the life out of these detestable scrotes that steal a living by calling themselves footballers. I hate them and I wouldn't mind seeing most of them rotting away in the reserves for the rest of their careers. If that's the team Mourinho created, then he is accountable too for creating such an environment.

I'll say this (If he joins you) the Mourinho that you are getting is not the Mourinho of old. He is a newer, more bitter, tactically behind the times, fearful and boring Mourinho. There is no guarantee with him any more.

 

[JPRouve]

Beppe Marotta, Nedved and Agnelli did that. Conte threw the dummy because Juventus didn't want to buy him Cuadrado

Conte was never great in Europe (prior to last season you could say the same about Allegri who got knocked out by mighty Tottenham). Hence why I wouldn't want him at OT. However lets not think for a moment that Juventus nearly won the treble thanks to Acciugina (Anchovy) Allegri. This is Conte's squad

Charlatan.

 

[Vialli_92]

He will demand 100% concentration and effort from his team.

I can already see players not lasting long at Chelsea under him as he has no time for divas.

 

[devilish]

Good. Ancelotti was a pussy who was too afraid to stand up for himself. Let the players dictate him too much and let Abramovich drive right over him.

I really hope Conte sucks the life out of these detestable scrotes that steal a living by calling themselves footballers. I hate them and I wouldn't mind seeing most of them rotting away in the reserves for the rest of their careers. If that's the team Mourinho created, then he is accountable too for creating such an environment.

I'll say this (If he joins you) the Mourinho that you are getting is not the Mourinho of old. He is a newer, more bitter, tactically behind the times, fearful and boring Mourinho. There is no guarantee with him any more.

The pussy won 3 CLs, 3 league titles (all in different countries) and god knows how many cups. Mourinho won the treble, 2 CLs, 8 league titles. Conte got knocked out by Galatasaraay and couldn't even pronounce their names well. You have a weird way of admiring managers

 

[devilish]

Charlatan.

It is Conte's team and hats up for him in developing some great youths including Pogba whom he had in his disposal. However it was built by the triade (Nedved, Marotta, Agnelli)

 

[JPRouve]

Yes and no. There's been a lot of change in the current Juventus setup since Conte left (Pirlo, Vidal the obvious ones, while a major influence like Tevez also left), and they are as good as ever. There simply is little (consistent) competition at the top in the Serie A to pose a thread to Juventus ATM.

You said Allegri did more, he only did more last season with a team who was assembled under Conte, this season he isn't doing more.

 

[JPRouve]

It is Conte's team and hats up for him in developing some great youths including Pogba. However it was built by the triade (Nedved, Marotta, Agnelli)

You know what I meant.

 

[Anduin]

You said Allegri did more, he only did more last season with a team who was assembled under Conte, this season he isn't doing more.

They are going to win their league easily and almost knocked out one of the tournaments favourites in Bayern Munich, can't fault them for falling just short there with their limited resources (compared to Bayern). What else would you expect? We shall wait and see, my point is simply that Conte isn't as good as some may think just because he won a few titles with Juventus – not a big deal these days. Conte built a great team no doubt, but what did he do with it in Europe? Not a lot.

 

[Vialli_92]

They are going to win their league easily and almost knocked out one of the tournaments favourites in Bayern Munich, can't fault them for falling just short there with their limited resources (compared to Bayern). What else would you expect? We shall wait and see, my point is simply that Conte isn't as good as some may think just because he won a few titles with Juventus – not a big deal these days. Conte built a great team no doubt, but what did he do with it in Europe? Not a lot.

His tactics were so poor in Europe. He never adapted to having teams have a go at his team for 90 minutes.

Normally Juve were able to take their foot off the gas a bit in Italy but it's a different story in Europe.

I'm sure he has grown quite a lot as a manager in the last couple of years so it's hard to tell if he can adapt to the premier league and CL.

 

[Gol123]

The pussy won 3 CLs, 3 league titles (all in different countries) and god knows how many cups. Mourinho won the treble, 2 CLs, 8 league titles. Conte got knocked out by Galatasaraay and couldn't even pronounce their names well. You have a weird way of admiring managers

I'm not saying Ancelotti isn't a great manager. Just saying he is too much of a pussy to handle confrontation, something needed at Chelsea and Real Madrid to stay long term and not have the owners feck you over. Of course, this makes him popular with the tosspot players at the clubs as his non confrontational style gives them power which is what they crave. Its still not a healthy way to run a club long term.

Mourinho is not the Mourinho you think he is. You are thinking of the one who first managed Chelsea, managed Inter and joined Real Madrid. Somewhere a long the way at Madrid he lost that brilliance that made him stand out as a manager. If you want to use the phrase "Mourinho without the brilliance" then there is nobody more apt then Mourinho himself. He is a caricature of his old self and truthfully, not even in the top 3 managers in the world any more.

Just look at his last 4 seasons as a manager. They are average seasons. Even the title winning Chelsea season was as average as it gets. Cemented by the fact Leicester City are on their way to winning it this season. Do you think if the best manager in the world was in the PL, Leicester City would be top of the table? No.

 

[devilish]

You know what I meant.

I don't.

You have to understand that Juventus 'manager' has a totally different role to a United manager (or what the Italians call un allenatore ala Ferguson to show the difference). Hence why its easy to contradict ones self in different posts

Conte was brilliant in developing the team and made them play the way he did. Players like Pogba had improved alot during his time at Juventus and they owe the manager everything. In some ways its Conte's team

However in terms of the transfer market that this is not Conte's or Allegri's team. Players are bought through the directors consent and most of the time the manager has little say about it. Hence why Lippi was tremendous with Juventus but an idiot at Inter and also why Conte left Juventus in the first place.

Its difficult to explain to a United fan. Lets say SAF wasn't allowed to buy the players he wanted during the treble season.

The class of 92 and the development of young players would have made it his team. On the other hand he wasn't the one who chose Schmeichel, Irwin, Stam, Yorke, Teddy and co, so strictly speaking it isn't his team.

Also I find it a bit disappointing that you went personal as I rate you as one of the top posters in here.

 

[Yorkeontop]

...meh

 

[golden_blunder]

yeah we should go for the guy who had the champions in a relegation scrap and got his ass fired instead

I get that you don't like Mourinho but whats your solution, leave LVG in charge?