Such a waste of money. Hopefully, he’ll be displaced by Amad once he returns. Not that I have high hopes for him even. So many young talents come and go after showing early promise. Antony just isn’t the guy.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Arrogant and lacks teamwork. He has the diva behaviour, but not the performance.
I mean, look at Ajax now...He's a 40m player at best.
To think that Ajax was desperate to keep him.
I dont think he is a diva? He might have the look or look arrogant but he doesnt play like a diva. He works hard and tracks back the time. That isnt what i associate with a diva.
Diva's are usually talented lazy players. I dont think anyone has ever described Antony as talented and lazy.
Is it true that he only has 3 PL goal involvements since this time last year? Horrendous if so.
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Correct. He's a fecking abomination that somehow gets handed the RW spot cemented for him.
Correct. He's a fecking abomination that somehow gets handed the RW spot cemented for him.
That is a pretty unbelievable stat for a first team man united attacker.
Yes he’s fecking shite. Yet brings balance or something.
A hard worker but with no end product. 80m shoveled straight into the furnace.
Another poor purchase. Works hard but zero end product. Constantly only looks to come inside, or pass it backward.
Guess being in the Brazilian NT doesn’t mean much these days I guess.
Bowen is better. That used to be a joke around this time last year.
We’ve spent a ridiculous amount of money on players this last decade but something about spending so much on a player like Antony is embarrassing.
He offers nothing, and we’ll be stuck with him for years especially if he is on high wages.
He offers nothing, and we’ll be stuck with him for years especially if he is on high wages.
We sold Elanga because he wasnt good enough, and then we got in someone who might turn out even worse....
Elanga has 1 goal and 3 assists in 385mins this season. That means in 3 starts and 4.3 games played, he has more assists than Antony since he joined us last season.
I still cannot believe how many of our young players get injured so easily. Amad, Mainoo, malacia even.
All needed to kick on and yet every single one of them got injured when we needed them most.
apparently he was on 20k at Ajax and went straight to 200k here. Mad. Like he wouldn't accept 90?
Never meant much. There is a history of dodgy call ups to inflate prices on players ..
I wonder if the scouting team nowadays accept brown envelopes?
Antony is repetitively drilled for the same failings on here when it should already be clear he is heavily dependent on his full-back overlapping. Brazil cater to his game in a manner we don't, ironically enough given the man who knows him better than anyone isn't catering to his game.
It's been discussed here in detail by a number of posters on a number of occasions that he simply lacks the base attributes to thrive as an individual. Lacks: pace, power, ability to pass accurately when running at full speed, so unless his team is massively in control of the game, he struggles because he can't do much as an individual in a position where you're most expected to do things as an individual and bring others into the game - decent wingers drive up the pitch as an outlet ball or outright ball carrier and then do something beneficial to the team with their next action. Antony struggles to do this because he can't pass at pace and doesn't have the strength to tussle nor the top speed to break free, so what are you left with?
It's been a real shambles how we've used him. He's a limited player and that has not been catered for. If we intend to isolate the winger, we should have gone for a proper winger/wing-forward rather than the playmaker type.
We're paying the price for the squad composition. A bunch of parts that don't fit together.
This is a good post but he has still under performed at the things he’s expected to do well.
1) Crossing the ball
2) Shooting
Also he has played with Dalot at RB as well who does go forward. But he doesn’t utilize him as well as he should.
In a way you are right, but then he does the most inexplicable things that have nothing to do with his physical attributes or technical abilities.
For instance, in one match he received a clearance way in on our half, and he sprinted with the ball, outsprinted their players with ease and drove deep into their half. Instead of trusting his pace, which he looked to have plenty of in that run, he started to doubt himself and after some deliberation, he made a weak pass to Rashford, I believe it was, and the counter attack ebbed out.
In another match, he dribbled past his defender, left him sprawling on the floor with 30-40 yards to run into, but instead he turned back around again and was tackled by the defender lying on the floor.
I mean, neither of these examples show any lack of pace or dribbling. He can get past his defender. He can outsprint them, but he starts to think, which reduces his top speed and defenders catch up, or he turns around for absolutely no reason.
His acceleration is actually really good, top speed is fine. It's his decision making that is his biggest drawback. He starts thinking and then everything just slows down. You don't have time for that in the PL.
Bench him asap
Hilarious we saw the Antony transfer and decided to continue to back eth in signing his targets this summer
He isn't close to being a 40m player. I wouldn't be happy if we signed him for 20m. He barely looks pl standardHe's a 40m player at best.
To think that Ajax was desperate to keep him
It doesn’t matter who we buy, wingers can do only do so much if the fullbacks never overlap or underlap, two weeks ago Mount was screaming at Dalot to overlap, and he still only did it once.. remember Mourinho saying he had to coach Shaw through an entire game? .. Wan Bissaka is more defensive minded too, we just don’t have players who help their wingers.. too many individuals who don’t seem to understand how to create space
While that is absolutely true, there is another issue. Antony doesnt pass to an overlap. We have seen AwB do some overlapping runs but Antony very rarely if ever chooses to take that pass, instead he steps on the ball and tries to go central, making it way to easy to stop him.
Can’t use his right foot playing on the right wing. Sums it up.
Aren't out fullbacks told to tuck in into midfield and support lone #6? At least that's how I understand the setup this season. So I feel it's kind of unfair to expect them to overlap frequently as well?
You think this was a scouting recommendation? Come on now.
i think we've seen enough to confirm that he's a bust. At the price and wages that went into the transfer, heads need to roll. We can't pay 85m for a winger who is going to track back, hold width and retain possession. If those are the attributes ETH was looking for, we could've bought a winger for 20-30m that would fulfill that role. The failings of the Sancho and Antony transfers demand for heads to roll once Ratcliffe assumes control of recruitment. Murtough can't survive this as they were bought on his watch. Also, ETH is culpable for this transfer mistake, this goes to show that having no strong recruitmend head is costing us, as someone should've put the foot down at the price Ajax was asking and bought Gakpo or another winger instead. ETH can't have his own way with transfers, even as much as Martinez did well in his first season, we can't say for certain that another coach would have him as first choice as a CB. I think all of ETH's recruits have question marks over them, he's shown that he's no DoF and he can't play both roles at a massive club like ours. He fulfilled both roles at his first clubs and now assumes that he can do that successfully, result show he can't!
We're stuck with Antony unless Saudi Arabia comes in and saves us. It is up to Amad to take that role now, Sancho will be loaned/sold in Jan and Antony should be relegated to the bench. Big transfer mistakes like this continue to derail us in our team rebuild.
We're stuck with Antony unless Saudi Arabia comes in and saves us. It is up to Amad to take that role now, Sancho will be loaned/sold in Jan and Antony should be relegated to the bench. Big transfer mistakes like this continue to derail us in our team rebuild.
Starting to wonder what ETH saw at Ajax considering his right foot is for standing only
Lovely post and agree with you. But like @Rossa said, there’s been so many times he’s beaten his man but then he stops and slows the game down/looks to come inside or pass back. Maybe if he gets used to Hojlund, this will change but clearly we need a player with his price tag and our first choice right winger to be doing more.
Hopefully he can adapt his game a bit more but signs are not promising.
Quite often under ETH our fullbacks have been our most advanced attacking players, but in a central position rather than overlapping. Lindelof was making runs into the box against Sheffield Utd, which is obviously ridiculous. But that said, the winning goal did come from Lindelof squaring the ball to Dalot…
Murtough and Arnold should be sacked for this transfer. Erik did insisted on him but they, as his bosses, made a final call.
And the thing which annoys me the most in his game; when he gets the ball, he spends few seconds on some crossovers and tricks like he will try to beat a player and then he just passes the ball back. Every single time. Why bother? You know that you will not go in that dribble, defender knows, teammates know and fans know.
I give him one thing; guy learned some (useless) tricks and made a career based on that. That was smart thing to sell himself as a player who he is not.
And the thing which annoys me the most in his game; when he gets the ball, he spends few seconds on some crossovers and tricks like he will try to beat a player and then he just passes the ball back. Every single time. Why bother? You know that you will not go in that dribble, defender knows, teammates know and fans know.
I give him one thing; guy learned some (useless) tricks and made a career based on that. That was smart thing to sell himself as a player who he is not.
On the plus side those useless tricks may work in the Saudi league.
He's arrogant and thinks nobody has the authority to tell him anything and will become salty with any of his team mates, with the exception of ETH and his staff.
And when he has the ball his decision making is totally affected by his will to show skills/runs/etc. I give him credit for his defensive contribution, which is actually much better than his attacking contribution curiously, but unless he starts playing like an 80M player by either scoring or creating, we need to start to think about the elephant in the room.
Our ability to spend huge sums on limited/crap players is remarkable!
TH is obviously too stubborn to admit defeat but would be very surprised if he isn't a RB under the next manager.
Its honestly borderline insanity that ETH sanctioned this move. It shows the selfishness of managers like him because im sure he just said “F it, its not my money”