I honestly don't get what they think they gain by keeping Sanchez. He very clearly wants out and will likely pout, or at the least not quite give his all, until January where he'll be sold for less than they were offered now or next summer where he'll leave for free.
Arsenal are a shambles
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Never believed it, tbh.LoL! Lemar rejected Arsenal
So what happens next summer when Sanchez can leave on a free and Arsenal won't get anything to put towards a replacement signing they clearly could only afford through supplementing it through selling Sanchez?
If I was an Arsenal fan I'd be quite happy with how today ended up. I'd rather keep Sanchez than lose him and get Lemar.
Aaron Ramsey has used the hashtag #shaaambles in his goodbye post to Oxlade-Chamberlain on Instagram
RvP joining United and winning the league title will continue to haunt Arsenal one way or another. Their attempt to display their sense of pride just deprived them of a healthy transfer budget to replace Sanchez. They should have taken the money and got some younger replacements earlier in the summer. Now they will most likely lose him for nothing, while they will still have to get his replacement and then groom him for City for the next few years until they come to collect.
Yet the club are left in a state of absolute disarray and with an atmosphere that is palpably toxic.
Aaron Ramsey has used the hashtag #shaaambles in his goodbye post to Oxlade-Chamberlain on Instagram
Turns out it was a nickname they used for him. Apparently.
I'm seriously starting to believe the rumours about them somehow having no money to spend. Ridiculous that keeping Sanchez constitutes a success day and close to the window for them, they still need improvement outside of that!
If Chelsea/Barca aren't in for him, then £45m on Mahrez would probably be a sound investment. Would suit their style, has proven his ability in the PL and although he's started a bit shit, I'd expect his level of play to pick up once he moves away from Leicester and is in it a happier frame of mind.
Drop another £40m on a good CB (Manolas? De Vrij?) and they'd still only have spent about £60m net this summer, surely they can afford to do that?
4-2-3-1 with Ozil, Sanchez (if they can convince him to put in effort), Mahrez and Lacazette should see them score plenty of goals and be more solid defensively than they are, wrap up Ozil's new deal and suddenly things are looking up a bit.
Of course, this is all FM18 fantasy stuff at the moment and none of that is likely to happen.
If Chelsea/Barca aren't in for him, then £45m on Mahrez would probably be a sound investment. Would suit their style, has proven his ability in the PL and although he's started a bit shit, I'd expect his level of play to pick up once he moves away from Leicester and is in it a happier frame of mind.
Drop another £40m on a good CB (Manolas? De Vrij?) and they'd still only have spent about £60m net this summer, surely they can afford to do that?
4-2-3-1 with Ozil, Sanchez (if they can convince him to put in effort), Mahrez and Lacazette should see them score plenty of goals and be more solid defensively than they are, wrap up Ozil's new deal and suddenly things are looking up a bit.
Of course, this is all FM18 fantasy stuff at the moment and none of that is likely to happen.
Now the question is with it being a world cup year and players not wanting to lose form, will they focus enough to keep Arsenal competitive or will they fall apart.
"Pleased with their summer business" is the nail in the coffin for us. It means we have no ambition anymore.
Their problems are being exaggerated. They still have quality players in Alexis, Ozil, Lacazette and Giroud. I am sure they can get top 4.
We get to keep the best player in the league and have all of his peak years pretty much. When he leaves he'll be a few months off 30 and maybe starting to fade. On a free he'll be wanting 20-30million a season for 4 years and will likely not be world class for at least 2 of those years. We'll get 1 of his best years for around 7m of wages.
We've made a profit this season that can be added to next seasons budget. Why sell Alexis Sanchez for Alex Chamberlain money?
Why risk losing CL money again by selling your best player? That's 50m+ in itself so if we give up the transfer fee and make top4 we've broke even on keeping him.
Replace him with who? You don't get that quality for less than 150m in this market, 55m isn't allot to get a replacement in this market. That's not even Lacazette money. It's 1/4 of the world record fee right now. When we sold RVP that was for around 1/3 of the world record and most would of prefered if we kept him. If we replaced Alexis it'd probably have been a much inferior player.
That's the thing tho. They have a good team on paper but Wenger is dragging them down. Not to mention the lack of ambition, fighting every year for top 4 and being satisfied with it.
Team doesn't even look that good on paper anymore
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A Wenger parody?
In theory yes, I'm not convinced it'll quite work out that way though. He's been pouting since the end of last season, I really can't see him deciding to all of a sudden give his all for the cause.
Like I said, it's going to be fun watching him play this season. What happens when he signs a pre-contract in January? He is certainly not leading that squad into the top 4, so not sure what you are expecting. As for inferior player's to replace him, of course they are going to be inferior, you don't have the budget to find a better player than him. Might as well use his transfer fee to find a talented young player to groom for City in a few years.
After Ramsey's tweet we should put a # before shambles in the title. I really don't believe the contrived story that #Shambles was AOC's nickname.
No way.
If Wenger went to the board right now and said that he has big plans for the team, which will guarantee top 4, without spending much money, but it is a 5 year project, the board would beg him to extend his contract. As long as Wenger keeps delivering the owners of the club profits, like he has for the last 10 years, they will beg him to continue.
Was extremely opened to joining usi early summer and playing with ozil and sanchez, but got disillusioned at whether we actually wanted him as we were busy low-balling monaco and he's now rejected us coz he got annoyed at being messed around with and of course sanchez leaving played another factor there.
All goes back to wenger and the board being a bunch of tools. Any sane man would have resigned by now.
Yeah, no chance. His nickname is obviously the Ox
Yeah.
Bloody hell, the mental gymnastics by the Arsenal fans in order to convince everyone they're not a club hugely in decline and that Lemar ever wanted to join them is hilarious.
Say what?
I don't know any Arsenal fans that think we are not in a massive decline. Kroenke is an awful owner, we have been mismanaged since he arrived. Our commercial department should be fired. We went 18 years between winning the league with Bertie Mee in 71 and Graham in 89. We are 13 years on now from winning with Wenger and stagnating at the worst time possible.
We are miles off Liverpool with Klopp, have a manager that has well and truly lost the plot, an owner that doesn't give two fecks about the actual sport as long as his Arsenal shares keep selling at slightly higher price - thereby increasing his investment value - he is happy.
I think what you are seeing is people tired of shouting to no avail. Not like Kroenke cares what happens.
Sum it up perfectly.
Which Arsenal fans have been saying that?
What about our back ups? They are just not good enough, plus Alexis clearly lacks motivations right now.
Arsenal: Not enough time to do the transfer.
Translation: We don't want to spend the money, but will pretend to have given it a try to appease the fans.
Translation: We don't want to spend the money, but will pretend to have given it a try to appease the fans.
The best thing we could do is sack Wenger after losing to Chelsea, bring in Tuchel or promote Bould on a strict Interim basis ala Houston/Burtenshaw/Howe-ish and just get the most out of the season as possible. Then go in with everything for Jardim first and Sarri second.
Agreed
No. I don't think so. They are not completely brain dead to actually think any of us buy into that. They are simply incompetent. They know how toxic its going to be.
Your argument is similar to City fans that actually believed the Arsenal board intended to sell Alexis to City on deadline specifically so they could use the 'no time to sign a replacement' as an excuse.
They were 100% wrong there.
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Great transfer window. Over 20m profit when everybody is on red, no doubt the fans are proud with this achievement.
Not just a case of Lemar saying no?
I am hoping for another big thrashing away. It's the only way to get rid of Wenger. Sorry to say this thing, but enough is enough.