If Arsenal do finish fourth this season surely Wenger wins manager of the year.
Arsenals chances of a top 4 finish this season
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I've said a lot that this transfer window would have actually been just about acceptable should no-one have left the club this summer. It would have been excellent had we got Mata/Cazorla, but I can't be greedy.
The thing is you are overly defensive when it comes to Arsenal.
Your get behind your team comment to alastair when he said he was having since doubts over Wenger is still probably the most idiotic comment I've read on here.
I have only watched Arsenal against us Spurs and Liverpool and it is still early season.
Spurs look the better first team and stronger in their squad but if they are going to play Defoe then it has to be VDV on the bench. Or play VDV off and use someone else at right wing. It isn't too difficult to see them sorting this out.
Liverpool look very ordinary but Gerrard is coming back and Suarez is class. I would have both these finishing above Arsenal at the moment.
Spurs look the better first team and stronger in their squad but if they are going to play Defoe then it has to be VDV on the bench. Or play VDV off and use someone else at right wing. It isn't too difficult to see them sorting this out.
Liverpool look very ordinary but Gerrard is coming back and Suarez is class. I would have both these finishing above Arsenal at the moment.
Put me on ignore if I bother you so much, I'll be doing the same.
You seem to be backing the club far more than the majority of its own fans do, which is fine, but quite a rare view point.
Exactly my point. Anyways what do you think of Coquelin, look a better prospect than Frimpong IMO.
I'm not backing Arsenal, I just can't stand knee jerk, myopic views with no sense of perspective, whether the topic of discussion is us, Arsenal, or other football clubs. What have I said that closely resembles the likes of Peterstorey and Grinner?
Yeh, he's always been the one. Frimpong is going to be popular because of his physicality, but Coquelin is by far the more talented player. In a season like this, I'm looking for positives, and he's one. I imagine Ryo and Oxlade-Chamberlain will join him as well as 'the future.'
Agreed. Think Frimpong will be overrated by you lot in the future because of his playing style and character however Coquelin looks Far better prospect. Was Arsenals best outfield player against Spurs Imo.
Think it could have been averted if they had been quick to snatch up someone like Mata though.
And even if it wouldn't have, they'd still be left with someone like Mata. Who probably would have been keener to sign for them anyway before Fabregas and Nasri were all but out the door.
Shows you what a difference a summer can make though. They could have had four top class, close to world class, players in their front four if they had made Mata a priority target and moved quickly. Now they have only one and replaced their two others with two players that are merely decent to good players and pushing the wrong side of 30.
The player who could make the step up to join that echelon, Wilshere, is now under huge pressure to deliver in midfield when he could have progressed more safely in the shadow of the other profiles.
If I read the same article in The Times about United I would treat it in exactly the same way.
It was widely reported that you were.
Coq was always going to be a better perspective from a 'footballing' point of view than Frimmy. He may not have the same level of physicality but he is a much better user of the ball. I personally couldn't understand Oxlade being left out of the squad against Spurs, he needs to be on the bench for the next game. The lad has the makings of a real gamechanger.
You've got Arsene's number have you?
Most oposition managers have nowadays why not him as well.
Didn't know where else to put it, and it didn't deserve a thread of its own
I know we had our own medical failing in Hargreaves, but wow...Arteta really must have been a last minute thing. Oh and what does Arteta mean, if some medical problem was found it would be his responsibility....
Contract voided? Medical bills paid by him?
I know we had our own medical failing in Hargreaves, but wow...Arteta really must have been a last minute thing. Oh and what does Arteta mean, if some medical problem was found it would be his responsibility....
Contract voided? Medical bills paid by him?
"Arsenal won't spend next January"
They wont be finishing 4th if he sticks to his word.
They wont be finishing 4th if he sticks to his word.
Apologies if previously posted.
If anyone thought they were out of the race, they are back.
Hope they finish above Liverpool.
Hope they finish above Liverpool.
Spurs were going to be their main challengers.
Tottenham have the team to get into the top 4.
Tottenham have the team to get into the top 4.
Their next five league games
WBA(H)
Norwich (A)
Fulham(H)
Wigan(A)
Everton(H)
They should be looking for at least 13 points for them and if they can get it they will probably be 4th or even 3rd if Chelsea manage to feck it up again.
But it's Arsenal, we never know what they do.
WBA(H)
Norwich (A)
Fulham(H)
Wigan(A)
Everton(H)
They should be looking for at least 13 points for them and if they can get it they will probably be 4th or even 3rd if Chelsea manage to feck it up again.
But it's Arsenal, we never know what they do.
so long as Arsenal finish ahead of Liverpool....
Fair play they are coming back strongly. Didn't think they had it in them TBH.
But they have a chance while the best CF in the league stays fit. Pleased for them TBH.
But they have a chance while the best CF in the league stays fit. Pleased for them TBH.
wilshere out possibly for the season, they need RVP firing in the goals, but no new signings in jan transfer window, it going to be tough and also with liverpool back in the running for 4th too.
Everything depends on RVP. IF he stays fit for the entire season, they have a chance though i still think spurs will pip them to it. If he gets injured, they wont even finish ahead of pool who i think will finish 5th/6th.
Without Nasri, Fabregas and Wilshere since last season. No wonder they're struggling.
Won't expect them to finish in the top four, if they do then fair play to Wenger. It's mostly his own work though, being without their two best players since last year, and replacing them in panic on deadline day.
Won't expect them to finish in the top four, if they do then fair play to Wenger. It's mostly his own work though, being without their two best players since last year, and replacing them in panic on deadline day.
Arteta (panic signing or not) has been a really good signing for them. Their shortcoming as ever has been at the back....
And injuries. Bottom line is the squad is average in comparison to a Wenger team of yesteryear. It's a team good enough to finish in the top four, not however to dominate the league. I'll exclude cup competitions because it's what you do on the day - you don't necessarily have to be the best team to win one.
Kosicelny has been their most improved player considering the stick he got in his first season. Coquelin looks nifty, Song and Arteta too. They are less possession based when they had Fabregas but still aren't clinical enough.
Spurs are looking good, there is no way they wont finish in the top 4.
Its Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool for the forth.
Per Sack of Merte is an interesting one. Constatly below par in the EPL yet he gets a nod from Low. Huth has been much better defender but he plays for bloody Stoke.
You know, for miraculously getting them into the top 4, a position he almost equally miraculously could have them ruled out of through shoddy planning.
Spurs are looking good, there is no way they wont finish in the top 4.
Its Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool for the forth.
Never sure about spurs personally. they have it in them to implode during the last 10 games or so. With suarez back and gerrard fit, pool will do well. also expect chelsea to buck up during the end. it'l be closer than it looks now i feel.
I'm not sure I really understand this attitude tbh. We have picked up more points in the second half of the season compared to the first in 4 of the past 5 seasons. We have shown a lot of grit in our performances this season.
And how do we have it in us to implode in the last 10 games and Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool not?
We need 21 points from 45 to get to 70 and guarantee CL footbal. Maybe 26 to absolutely guarantee it. Arsenal would need 33 or 38 from 45 to match that.How likely is that?.
I can see us possibly finishing behind Chelsea (though we look a far better team this season and they're shit) but actually finishing out of the top 4? We're only 5 points off first, yet we're now conclusively out of the title race apparently, yet 10 points ahead of 5th and we're still liable for a collapse. Would need an absolutely disastrous end to the season to end out of the top 4.
I hope Newcastle finish 4th. And I wish the media wouldn't be dismissive of the club currently sitting in 5th place, above both Arsenal and Liverpool and only 3 points behind Chelsea and with players yet to come back from Africa.
Because Spurs always bottle it, basically.
If Arsenal and Chelsea conspire to let this rubbish Liverpool side back in the CL, I will not be amused.
A reasoned, well thought out debate.
I barely hear the term 'bottling it' outside of this forum and yet every time I long on, it seems to appear on every other post. The obsession is frankly strange. Has Ferguson said it at some point in the past, leading to you all picking it up and using it for every situation?
I'm sure the majority of Arsenal fans wish for a United win when we play Chelsea this weekend and Liverpool next week.