Herrera was a different case because of the release clause. We cannot do the same with Vidal because we have to agree a deal with Juventus. Had Herrera not had the release fee put into his contract we wouldn't have got him since Athletic were playing hardball.
Arturo Vidal
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Relatively no information in that press conference at all. Apparantly no Southampton players were for sale, Ander Herrera was going "nowhere" and was part of a long term plan. Mata was essential to Chelsea and Mourinho had him in his plans. It sounds to me as if we need to offer a huge fee to Juve and insane wages to Vidal. I think its on. Vidal has name dropped us twice but he is in a situation now where hes damned if he does and damned if he does not.
What we have going for us is that he is 27, meaning he is now looking for the last big contract of his career, his next club will most likely be his last at the top level and he will be looking for a very lucrative deal. If we have offered him 10m a year Id imagine hed snap our hands off.
To be honest, I dont think we will see movement until the 28th if not a week later.
I think its more likely than not, but them missing out on Itrube will be a huge blow for us. Now AC Milan are linked with Nani and the Evra deal is on Hiatus. Its this simple, sell us Vidal and you can get Itrube and Evra.
What we have going for us is that he is 27, meaning he is now looking for the last big contract of his career, his next club will most likely be his last at the top level and he will be looking for a very lucrative deal. If we have offered him 10m a year Id imagine hed snap our hands off.
To be honest, I dont think we will see movement until the 28th if not a week later.
I think its more likely than not, but them missing out on Itrube will be a huge blow for us. Now AC Milan are linked with Nani and the Evra deal is on Hiatus. Its this simple, sell us Vidal and you can get Itrube and Evra.
100% assurance would have been something like He will definitely be here next season. All this rumors are rubbish. We aren't gonna sell no matter what.
This it's always upto the player who is happy/content here, Some important clubs have asked but he is integral and was never for sale is middle of the road stuff.
I'd pay good money for a hidden microphone on Studward the next week or so. A go-pro mounted on his head would also clarify a whole lot. Anyone got any contacs in the business?
Yes and no. Obviously if there are clubs who are truly interestd in Vidal they are not going to just sit there and say "Oh United are negotiating for him, let's just sit and do nothing." If they want him, they will be making their interest known. From the point of view of a players agent and the selling club, well if they know other clubs are interested they will want those other clubs in making bids.
Thanks mate, that cheers me up a lot!!!!Fellaini and Jones
One thing we're forgetting in all this that Juventus just doesn't have enough money. Their financials aren't in the greatest of shape because like Arsenal they've just created a new stadium and they actually made losses last year.
"Vidal? The offer came But we keep tight "
This is dead.
I know, right? Sexy football. Think of the foul stats.
It's because I bought him already for some pork scratchings and a cider. He's now part of the evil empire.
With everything Juve and United have said in the past 48 hours, I'd say the ball is very much in Vidal's court. We'll find out what he wants, one way or the other.
Go away and stop quoting me just cause you got rekt.
Oh doooo we now? That's quite the assumpion to make Dwayne, you fecking racist.
@Melvyn thoughts?
Most reports say they're holding out for €45m which is reasonable, not sure how much £ that is. Nothing to be worried about though, them saying nothing or refusing to answer about it would basically confirm he's off, which he isn't, yet. We have to offer the amount they are asking. They don't want to sell him of course, it's just a case of everyone have a price and if we are willing to meet it. It's pretty much why Mitten is a bit on the fence. I'm sure the interest is real, I think Vidal wants to come too. There is no guarantee how high we are willing to go to get him though, so nobody can know for sure.
What you dont want to do is put all your eggs in one basket like we did with Rooney last summer and end up with the same as last season. Vidal isn't the only midfielder you could target and hes not insanely better than other choices.
Good point but they have offloaded two high earners and is not even getting Iturbe now (which would've cost a bit of money). Sure they can manage one more year.
I'm pretty sure Woodie would notice a go-pro stuck to his head, at the very least when someone was asking him to hold still whilst they strapped it on.
ooh er, matron
As for the quotes, who cares? How many times has a manager walked into a press conference on his first day, knowing full well he is an unpopular choice anyway, and confirmed that one of their star players is to be sold?
Not only would it turn the fans on them instantly, but it also means they are effectively leaving themselves open to lowball offers.
The obvious thing to do is to deny all transfer talk, and later accept a ridiculously large offer whilst painting the picture that the player forced their way out to keep the fans onside.
I guess realistically I'm trying to convince myself it's still very much ArturON, but who cares?
Vidal meltdown by some transfer muppets??!?!?
Some of u are so clueless
The words of the Juventus boss are meaning nothing
Some of u are so clueless
The words of the Juventus boss are meaning nothing
I really don't think Morata's comments change anything.
@Dwazza Van Hernandez I didn't even see the KFC thing at the end of that gif and thought you were just randomly being bat shit mental, now I get it 
its all foreplay
Nope, he never said a deal was done
Mitten's latest video does not sound good to me - a complete different message from yesterday. He didn't say the club are saying this but my sources are still backing the deal. If anything if was more defending his sources saying he does get stuff right... (I think he is insinuating he got this one wrong - might just be me).
Hope I'm wrong but this isn't looking good. Need some LvG magic tomorrow.
Hope I'm wrong but this isn't looking good. Need some LvG magic tomorrow.
As for the quotes, who cares? How many times has a manager walked into a press conference on his first day, knowing full well he is an unpopular choice anyway, and confirmed that one of their star players is to be sold?
Not only would it turn the fans on them instantly, but it also means they are effectively leaving themselves open to lowball offers.
The obvious thing to do is to deny all transfer talk, and later accept a ridiculously large offer whilst painting the picture that the player forced their way out to keep the fans onside.
I guess realistically I'm trying to convince myself it's still very much ArturON, but who cares?
In a nut-shell. As others have pointed out, there was literally nothing else he could say.
Even an evasive "the future, only god knows" comment would have had the pitchforks out from Juve fans and given the whip hand in negotiations to the buying club(s)
They absolutely don't.
Nothing has changed... his arrival is impending IMO.
Juve will never announce he is up for sale in Allegri's first press conference.
When Conte resigned yesterday that was it for me... its only a matter of time before Vidal gets here.
Just as I suspected. Where's Stretch now?
@Dwazza Van Hernandez I didn't even see the KFC thing at the end of that gif and thought you were just randomly being bat shit mental, now I get it
Cina, too funny! I only caught it after it played through a few times.Like who???
It's nothing. Juventus had a press conference with their new manager and director and said he's a key player! happy to coach him! they had offers but he's happy to continue being a juventus player. Basically a lot of nothing really, nobody would ever say they are ready to sell him or whatever, that just doesn't happen. Refusing to answer basically confirms it too. He's currently their player and won't force a move, no reason to, but the only question is if we will offer what they are asking, as has been the case all along. Nothing is "off" so to speak, it's just up to us how high we are willing to go.
Definitely. If he wants to stay, great for Juve. But if he wants to leave, he's going to have to be the one to push for a move so that Juve can say that they couldn't stop him from leaving, especially if United put in a big bid. Also, United won't place a formal bid until they know for sure that Vidal wants to move to United. So yes, ball is very much in his court.
Go away Cina, you racist.
This will all depend on how much Vidal wants the move I guess.
Why all the angst? Seriously, what did people think they were going to say in that situation? Everything they said was for the benefit of their own fans, not us. Anything else would have left them open to even more criticism from an already pissed off fan base, not to mention spoiling any negotiations that are currently underway.
We agree a deal with them (and they're under enough financial pressure to accept), then they say "oh well, Vidal decided he wanted to leave".
Of course I thought something similar last year with Fabregas but even still, this seems like normal transfer bullshit. Let's not forget, our own club is still rather improbably briefing that we haven't even made contact with Vidal! Everyone is a liar in this situation.
We agree a deal with them (and they're under enough financial pressure to accept), then they say "oh well, Vidal decided he wanted to leave".
Of course I thought something similar last year with Fabregas but even still, this seems like normal transfer bullshit. Let's not forget, our own club is still rather improbably briefing that we haven't even made contact with Vidal! Everyone is a liar in this situation.
Which vid is this ? We need it posted.
Really? There are no other midfielders in World Football apart from Arturo Vidal?
United placed a formal bid for Shaw and after they refused that only he told Southampton he wanted to leave without putting a transfer request.
If we wanna take this further expect something similar.
It's in the twitter discussion pages.
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