Chelsea are an absolute clusterfeck of a club though as far as internal politics go, hopefully the blueprint for City in a few years time.
Benitez to Chelsea Discussion & Sack watch
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I'm not so sure, it takes a special breed to germinate the atmosphere at chelsea, and I don't think city have anyone of the caliber of cunishness as terry and cole. Tevez maybe, but he cant speak english well enough to organise the kind of self important shitehead group required to achieve the kind of power where shooting one of your own workmates doesnt register as a problem.
His tactics when chasing a goal against City were absolutely, mind-blowingly terrible.
They had the momentum and looked like they got get the equalizer, then he decides to shuffle their formation around and leave them with three at the back and David Luiz pretty much alone in midfield. The result was that they were unable to get the ball out of defence for the remainder of the match, and City obviously doubled their lead.
It was astute by City move the pressure higher to deny them to get out of their own half, but that was some absolutely terrible tactical decisions by Benitez I thought.
They had the momentum and looked like they got get the equalizer, then he decides to shuffle their formation around and leave them with three at the back and David Luiz pretty much alone in midfield. The result was that they were unable to get the ball out of defence for the remainder of the match, and City obviously doubled their lead.
It was astute by City move the pressure higher to deny them to get out of their own half, but that was some absolutely terrible tactical decisions by Benitez I thought.
I don't know what game you were watching, but at no time did we look like getting an equaliser.
We had two shots on target in the whole game, one was a missed penalty and one was a speculative dig from 25 yards.
We had two shots on target in the whole game, one was a missed penalty and one was a speculative dig from 25 yards.
Indeed. As bad a Chelsea 'performance' as I can remember. Utterly woeful.
Well done Wreck-It Rafa!
Well done Wreck-It Rafa!
he was doing a parody of a cod-poetic Scouse Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaimeRamires had a good counter IIRC, where he didn't shoot on time.
Yeah I agree, though there weren't many shots on target for Chelsea, it wouldn't have surprised me if they hadn't nicked one at 1-0. They were applying pressure and were getting into good positions. It was overall a pretty poor performance though.
Would it be worthwhile sacking him now? I don't think so. They will still probably get top 4 and have a decent chance in the FA Cup and EL still. I'd wait it out until the end of the season for when Mourinho will possibly be available. There will be other faces available too.
I think Laudrup could end up doing well there with time but he wouldn't get it so would go the same way as AVB.
I think Laudrup could end up doing well there with time but he wouldn't get it so would go the same way as AVB.
I reckon Abramovich will have Benitez serving the coffees and brandy to the corporates if he falls out with any more of Roman's favourites !
Benitez, Just..
He did decent with Liverpool but then cracked up. Then he fecked up everything Mourinho did at Inter, and now he's increased the gap between us and Chelsea from 4 to 19 points.
Average manager who thinks he is a lot better than he is.
Agreed, though he's a bit better than average. However, nowhere near a top manager.
Unfortunately too many 'pool fans are still under his spell.
Well, they already covered it:
I thought it was a decent chance for Ramires, and more to the point: At least you looked like you could create something before the changes, and City were on the back foot until the changes when you couldn't even get out of defence.
I'm not saying it was a good performance, just that those tactical changes ensured that you weren't going to get anything from the game as you were unable to get the ball out of your own half.
We will try to win, for sure, that would be better, no?
wise words
wise words
Every single drop of good karma, luck, joojoo, fluke that could have been squeezed out of a club was used up in the flukiest CL win of all time. Now its payback time and karma is acting quite the bitch.
Welcome to Stamford Bridge, Rafa.
Welcome to Stamford Bridge, Rafa.
I'm sure this ground was covered before here on the caf somewhere, but had Lampard been able to convert the pk, it would have been a very different game. A smash and grab away win might have been on the menu. As it happened, Chelsea lost whatever swag they had before the missed pk and rolled over for City.
But on the main point here, there is no fukkin way Rafa will be Chelsea manager next season. How he's even been able to get this far in his managerial career boggles the mind.
But on the main point here, there is no fukkin way Rafa will be Chelsea manager next season. How he's even been able to get this far in his managerial career boggles the mind.
*cough*Istanbul*cough*
Every single drop of good karma, luck, joojoo, fluke that could have been squeezed out of a club was used up in the flukiest CL win of all time. Now its payback time and karma is acting quite the bitch.
Welcome to Stamford Bridge, Rafa.
Never mind didn't realise he was a scouser and referring to the Istanbul win when he said fluky!
He's a Liverpool fan.
I have no problem with debating Rafas incompetence as a manager, and the circus of a way our club is run, but I cant help but cringe at the deluded bunch who still think our CL win was a fluke
Coming from a club who wouldn't have any recent CL trophies if it wasn't for a brain fart from Bayern Munich in extra-time and a John Terry Jellyfoot its a bit rich to consider our CL win as luck! You make your own luck, and we made it with excellent goalkeeping, last ditch tackles, and united teamwork.
Anyone who mocks our CL win clearly doesn't know much about United, because team spirit, work ethic and never giving up are three of Uniteds strongest aspects.
Rant over, I just hate it when people have to have a dig at our CL victory!
Rafa out!
Dumbstar is a dipper....
Oh so he was referring to the Istanbul win? Ok sorry didnt realise! I retract some bits then!
Also, if you're going to get pissy about CL wins, we were at least the best team in Europe for both of our modern day wins, competing right to the end and winning our league at the same time, making our "Champions of Europe" title far more legitimate, and far less fortunate than winning it whilst failing to even reach the qualification places in your own country. A glorious feat that BOTH you and Liverpool managed.
Not that I begrudge your win at all though. I firmly believe Lampard & Drogba deserved it.
Not that I begrudge your win at all though. I firmly believe Lampard & Drogba deserved it.
And Cech!
I wasn't really getting pissy as such because I dont believe a team has ever won it that didnt deserve it, thats a logically impossibility!
I thought he was a United fan and mocking the win would have been quite hypocritical!
Well if you think that, it's clearly far more hypocritical of a Liverpool fan.
And yes, Cech too. And Cashley tbf....And probably Terry if Im being objective. Which I'm not going to be.
And yes, Cech too. And Cashley tbf....And probably Terry if Im being objective. Which I'm not going to be.
Youse lot are having a laugh int ya? Of course I'm not referring to Istanbul.
In that marvellous run we had to score three against Olympiakos. Then beat a pretty tough Juventus and a half decent Bayer Leverkusen. Against Chelsea we rode our luck at times, and obviously against Milan.
But overall, nothing as flukey as Chelsea's (yeah I'll miss a penalty Messi, no I'll miss a better one Robben). Never say die attitude my arse.
Sorry EssexRob but you had the flukiest win in the history of the competition. You still won it mind.
When we were the best team in country and arguably in Europe (the first two years of Mourinho) we didn't win it and we were extremely unlucky.
Did anyone feel sorry for us then or think "unlucky lads, you deserved it"? Did they feck, so excuse me for not worrying very much if other fans think we were lucky.
We were lucky if you look at that one year in isolation, we weren't lucky if you look at the context of the previous decade. Ghost goals, penalty slips, clearcut penalties turned down...you name it, we suffered it. You keep banging a door hard enough and eventually it will open.
Hence why I think many of your players deserved it.
OH NOES!
The true metal of European Champions.
It's a pitty Chelsea never faced the half decent might of Leverkusen, then we'd know if they truly deserved it......Oh, wait, hold on.
For Juve, read Barca, for Milan, Bayern, for Olympiakos, Napoli. Right down to the bumping of a local rival out of their place.
OH NOES!
The true metal of European Champions.
It's a pitty Chelsea never faced the half decent might of Leverkusen, then we'd know if they truly deserved it......Oh, wait, hold on.
For Juve, read Barca, for Milan, Bayern, for Olympiakos, Napoli. Right down to the bumping of a local rival out of their place.
You're lucky that a Russian billionaire decided to make you his plaything and spoil the game by pouring cash into the club. Whatever comes after that is simply because the club sold it's soul.
Oh bore off, please.
It always makes me laugh when United fans harp on about "financial doping" and the destructive influence of greed in football. The difference between doping and financial backing is that doping is illegal in most sports and pumping money into a club isn't, not until FFP anyway.
As far as I can see United did more than anyone with the PLC stuff in the early-90's to pave the wave for the commercialisation of top-flight English football. That and the Premier League changed the face of the English game forever, not the cash of Roman Abramovich.
I don't remember people moaning about money when United were spunking 30 million on the likes of Rio and Rooney.
Because we earned that money through our own success, while you leeched off a sugar daddy. Quite the difference there.
Well he's more like Agent Orange these days.
I'm surprised people are expecting more from this Chelsea side. Their spine that won them so much over the past decade has aged or been sold off. Bedding in youth talent and new signings will take some time to work. It doesn't help that the managers position is a revolving door. I know it's the "in thing" to blame Benitez, but this has been long overdue for Chelsea.
Dumbstar's lack of self-awareness is truly exceptional.
Also, people need to recognize there is no objective way of determining the best team in Europe. The Champions league does not belong to the best team in Europe. It belongs to the team who can win all it's ties in the competition.
His place in caf folklore though is assured....
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/get-your-league-tables-out-lads-168243/