Ekeke are you willing to make a bet? I say we'll buy Berbatov this summer.
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Not really Ekeke, most of the talk has been on him as a player or a hypothetical fee etc not on if an actual fee has been agreed. That would be silly unless someone on here is David Gill or Daniel Levy, im neither of them anyway. Talk of Berbatov inevitably sparks conversation because it is obvious Fergie has an interest in him and there has been at least one bid for him in the last four years and according to his agent another approach to Spurs in January. Fergie has made admiring comments about him as has Berbatov, he usually pursues players like him continually.
Also it is fine for other people to not like a player or think others are a better fit e.g Eto'o with you, it is their opinion of course. Trust me if I could come up with a believable story that Batigol was to come out of retirement, play for us and be as good as at his peak I would argue it and tell everyone how he fits our team better than Berbatov continously.
Dismissing this as nothing with the same exuberance as people have claimed it is likely to happen then saying they are spunking over themselves is just strange. If he signs he signs.I was actually willing to make a bet with... Err... I forget. Was a few weeks ago. Could it have been Pogue?
I was willing to make a bet we wouldn't sign a player over the age of 26.
We seem far more likely to be going for Berbatov at this point. It would be a fools' bet. But he isnt signed and there's still a good chance it wont happen. People who are talking like he's already our player are the ones making bets.
i have decided that he is the second coming of christ and we must buy him.
And do you wonder why?
Ajax put rumours to bed almost immediately by the way.
Huntelaar said that we were interested in him, Dantchev has said that we have bid for him, that has been run by just about every paper in the country. Now two papers have quoted £28 million as an agreed price, along with some debatably credible evidence from Glastonspur and some of my own that i won't bother mentioning.
You are struggling to assess the information and draw a conclusion from it - there is enough weight in what has been provided to you already.
It isn't done and dusted, no contract has been signed. I don't mind putting my neck out on the block for this one, i did in January based on assumptions and some logical deduction, now i am very confident.
He's quite sexy
no denials from both clubs, sounds good
Last week I thought Huntelaar was the Messiah. Then it seemed I was wrong and Berbatov was the true Messiah. And then today I am being told that Aguero is the real Messiah.
I'm so confused
Cant understand anyone questioning this business...oh no wait i can....you dont know how good he is....but you will....you will!!!
There are just some transfers which you for some reason know is going to happen eventually because of the smoke before the fire - I have this feeling with this one, just like I'm sure we all knew Hargreaves would come and the same with Rooney - in fact I had the same feeling last summer regarding Nani.
Now it's not me being gullible and believing everything the papers say, as I don't, but this one just feels very real and logic.
United agree £28m fee with Tottenham for Berbatov
United agree £28m fee with Tottenham for Berbatov - now Spurs wait for Arshavin decision on White Hart Lane switch
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 3:28 PM on 14th July 2008
Manchester United have agreed to pay Tottenham a club-record £28million for Dimitar
Berbatov - but may have to wait a few weeks before completing the deal.
Sir Alex Ferguson finally made his move for the Bulgarian striker over the weekend.
An initial bid of £20m was rejected and it was then reported that United would make a £25m take-it-or-leave it offer.
However, the two clubs have now come to an agreement after chairman Daniel Levy insisted the champions pay closer to £30m.
Publicly, Spurs are still insisting the striker isn’t for sale but head coach Juande Ramos has been planning for next season without him for some time.
The 27-year-old has made it clear he wants to leave and while he preferred a move to Barcelona or Real Madrid because of the lifestyle in Spain, United are the only club to have followed up their interest with a solid bid.
Tottenham had put a new contract in place in case no offer was forthcoming, but the player showed little interest in signing it.
Reports in the London Evening Standard suggest Spurs will still not let him leave for Old Trafford until they find a replacement and the club have joined Arsenal and Chelsea in the hunt for Zenit St Petersburg’s Euro 2008 Russian star Andrei Arshavin.
Blackburn striker Roque Santa Cruz is also a target, although Tottenham are already having difficulty negotiating with Blackburn over England winger David Bentley.
The Lancashire club want £18m for the former Arsenal star who is keen to return to London and is a Spurs fan.
Tottenham may also use the funds from the Berbatov sale to make another move for Barcelona striker Samuel Eto’o, although he has already made it clear he isn’t interested in coming to White Hart Lane.
But while Berbatov will go to United, they won’t allow assistant manager Gus Poyet to follow him.
The Uruguayan is on Ferguson’s wish list to replace Carlos Queiroz, but Spurs are determined to keep him and he is happy at the club.
United agree £28m fee with Tottenham for Berbatov - now Spurs wait for Arshavin decision on White Hart Lane switch
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Last updated at 3:28 PM on 14th July 2008
Manchester United have agreed to pay Tottenham a club-record £28million for Dimitar
Berbatov - but may have to wait a few weeks before completing the deal.
Sir Alex Ferguson finally made his move for the Bulgarian striker over the weekend.
An initial bid of £20m was rejected and it was then reported that United would make a £25m take-it-or-leave it offer.
However, the two clubs have now come to an agreement after chairman Daniel Levy insisted the champions pay closer to £30m.
Publicly, Spurs are still insisting the striker isn’t for sale but head coach Juande Ramos has been planning for next season without him for some time.
The 27-year-old has made it clear he wants to leave and while he preferred a move to Barcelona or Real Madrid because of the lifestyle in Spain, United are the only club to have followed up their interest with a solid bid.
Tottenham had put a new contract in place in case no offer was forthcoming, but the player showed little interest in signing it.
Reports in the London Evening Standard suggest Spurs will still not let him leave for Old Trafford until they find a replacement and the club have joined Arsenal and Chelsea in the hunt for Zenit St Petersburg’s Euro 2008 Russian star Andrei Arshavin.
Blackburn striker Roque Santa Cruz is also a target, although Tottenham are already having difficulty negotiating with Blackburn over England winger David Bentley.
The Lancashire club want £18m for the former Arsenal star who is keen to return to London and is a Spurs fan.
Tottenham may also use the funds from the Berbatov sale to make another move for Barcelona striker Samuel Eto’o, although he has already made it clear he isn’t interested in coming to White Hart Lane.
But while Berbatov will go to United, they won’t allow assistant manager Gus Poyet to follow him.
The Uruguayan is on Ferguson’s wish list to replace Carlos Queiroz, but Spurs are determined to keep him and he is happy at the club.
“We are looking at one or two things. People think it is easy to buy players nowadays, but it isn't. Money plays a big part and clubs with ambition don't want to sell their best players, so it is not as easy as you think. We tend to look for younger ones because of that. But now that Euro 2008 is over, things will settle down. Managers are back at clubs, back at training and you can get some dialogue going if you are interested in somebody. We will look at one or two things.”
I remember that and this is the quote your stance was based on. We tend to look for younger players because of clubs not wanting to sell their good and probably established players was turned into he was definitely after a young player. Even though he made contradicting statements a little earlier before that.
He'd be a great signing, but £28m fecking hell! I'd rather us pay half that for a younger striker ...Huntelaar.
Eto'o, who i rate as the best striker in the world, would probably cost around £28m-£30m, why not go for him? I know he's a bit of a trouble maker and has a big ego, but I'm sure Fergie would sort him out.
fecking hell! I'd rather us pay half that for a younger striker ...Huntelaar.Eto'o, who i rate as the best striker in the world, would probably cost around £28m-£30m, why not go for him? I know he's a bit of a trouble maker and has a big ego, but I'm sure Fergie would sort him out.
Last week I thought Huntelaar was the Messiah. Then it seemed I was wrong and Berbatov was the true Messiah. And then today I am being told that Aguero is the real Messiah.
I'm so confused
you are best to stick with me, i won't lead you off the straight and narrow. he is the new saviour. his hold up and link up play is exactly what we need to improve the front line. i am quite excited by his proposed move which looks more than likely to happen now unless a major stumbling block is reached somewhere along the line.
I can't believe that people are still questioning the judgement of the best manager of all time.
That's about 10 pages old that article, 032Devil
He'd be a great signing, but £28m
Eto'o, who i rate as the best striker in the world, would probably cost around £28m-£30m, why not go for him? I know he's a bit of a trouble maker and has a big ego, but I'm sure Fergie would sort him out.
You'll be retracting this in months to come. Never understood the fuss about huntlaar. done feck all
He'd be a great signing, but £28m
Eto'o, who i rate as the best striker in the world, would probably cost around £28m-£30m, why not go for him? I know he's a bit of a trouble maker and has a big ego, but I'm sure Fergie would sort him out.
28m is certainly not cheap but i think he will prove his worth if he does indeed come. he is one of the top three attackers in the world that would definitely improve our forward play in my opinion.
That's about 10 pages old that article, 032Devil
Sorry.
I went back about 3 pages but couldn't be arsed to go back further.
Apologises to all!
Pretty sure that bet was with me, looks like I might end up missing out on a bit of money.
lol just got a phone call from my old man about the 28 million pound deal on the back of the london standard
Yeah i agree mate, he'd be a great signing never the less.
Hopefully Saha leaves this summer. There is no reason for him to be at this club any longer. Besides, Berbatov needs that #9 shirt
Utter shite that story, Berbatov would always chose us over Barca and/or Real
As for Arshavin
That he'd even think about joining Spurs what with Arsenal, Barca and Chelsea all after himUtter shite that story, Berbatov would always chose us over Barca and/or Real
As for Arshavin
I wouldn't be so sure of that.
That's only reported interest, Arsenal wouldn't pay the money and so far I've heard no interest of Chelsea, and so Tottenham seem his next best bet since he has already said the Premier League is the best in the world.
Will It Be Berbat - Off ?
William Hill make Berbatov a 1/2 chance to be at Manchester United by the first game of the season, while he is 6/4 still to be at Spurs. (Others on request)
Will Ronaldo be at Man Utd on the 1st day of English premier league season ?
‘1/2 Yes
6/4 No
Will Ronaldinho be at Man City on the 1st day of English premier league season ?
9/4 Yes
1/3 No
Will Arshavin be at Tottenham on the 1st day of English premier league season ?
9/2 Yes
1/8 No
William Hill offer 6/5 that Adebayor will still be at Arsenal on the opening day of the new Premier League season; 7/4 that he will be at Barcelona by then and 9/4 with AC Milan. (Others on request).
LAMPARD is 5/6 to stay at Chelsea for the first day of the season with Hills who also make him 5/6 to go.'
http://williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=10436
William Hill make Berbatov a 1/2 chance to be at Manchester United by the first game of the season, while he is 6/4 still to be at Spurs. (Others on request)
Will Ronaldo be at Man Utd on the 1st day of English premier league season ?
‘1/2 Yes
6/4 No
Will Ronaldinho be at Man City on the 1st day of English premier league season ?
9/4 Yes
1/3 No
Will Arshavin be at Tottenham on the 1st day of English premier league season ?
9/2 Yes
1/8 No
William Hill offer 6/5 that Adebayor will still be at Arsenal on the opening day of the new Premier League season; 7/4 that he will be at Barcelona by then and 9/4 with AC Milan. (Others on request).
LAMPARD is 5/6 to stay at Chelsea for the first day of the season with Hills who also make him 5/6 to go.'
http://williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=10436
Agree
Strangely perhaps, I would be.
I think Ramos has quite a different type of formation and tactical approach to games in mind compared to last season - and so I'd like to see him fully given the chance to shape the team/squad as he wishes. That takes money to bring in the sort of players he wants. OK, we've spent some already since he arrived - Hutton, Woodgate, Dos Santos, Modric etc - and still have more in reserve I believe, but 28m (?) is a huge booster on top and will open up even more options.
However, it's quite hard to say really, because to be realistic your proposition would have to suppose that Berbatov stayed and expressed great enthusiasm to play for us - just staying but being semi-interested wouldn't cut it for me or the team.
Make no mistake, Berbatov is quality.
I've seen him many times and his touch is awesome. I've been to games and been amazed how good he is, got home and watched the highlights and hardly seen him.
Man Utd have got a vey good player here, best striker I've seen at Spurs since Klinsmann (first time round). Gutted he's going, he's been a **** last few months but thats because he knows he should be in teams winning the top honours. The guy is quality,
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I've seen him many times and his touch is awesome. I've been to games and been amazed how good he is, got home and watched the highlights and hardly seen him.
Man Utd have got a vey good player here, best striker I've seen at Spurs since Klinsmann (first time round). Gutted he's going, he's been a **** last few months but thats because he knows he should be in teams winning the top honours. The guy is quality,
spurs fan
28m FFS
Why does everybody worry about money so much?
Fergie paid Spurs what he thought he was worth to us + a premiuim for him being a premiership player, from a club that are very competitive.
To get anywhere near that quality and immediate impact we were always going to have to fork out - there is more money in football nowadays.
Don't judge a deal until it has come into effect.
Fergie paid Spurs what he thought he was worth to us + a premiuim for him being a premiership player, from a club that are very competitive.
To get anywhere near that quality and immediate impact we were always going to have to fork out - there is more money in football nowadays.
Don't judge a deal until it has come into effect.
So you keep repeating, and we mostly agree.
Now stop getting giddy. Remember we had all but signed Ramsey.
And too think United could have this guy for less than half of what they are paying now had they signed him in 2006. 28m... that's what Ronaldo cost Madrid during the height of the transfer market in 2002. Really hope he plays at a high level for 4-6 years. Insane. So will United be paying 15m for Bale and 25m for Modric in 3 years?
2 words: Djemba.
This is different sultan...no chance of the berb staying at spurs now. And cant see him rejecting us...
Doubtless similar things were being said about Modric, whose 'name recognition and profile' was (and is) at least as big as Arshavin's is now.... As for Arshavin
That's not to say that Spurs are after him, but if we are/were then we'd be in with a definite shout. Never say never as far as Spurs are concerned. We might not be in the CL, but the club has a bigger pulling power than you seem to imagine and might just have one or two surprises in store this summer
28m FFS
Seems a lot for a player who is 27 years old.
But we have to get used to price inflation. What was too much before is no longer too much.
It's not easy getting the finished product in the prime of his career. We are no longer building a team for the future. This team can win trophies now, so adding the final piece in the form of Berbatov is worth the money.
Now if we could just figure out a way of avoiding Ronaldo's inevitable departure ... of course, we do have Nani waiting in the wings, and Hargreaves provided some good service from the wing at the end of the season.
Maybe we can do it without Ronaldo and his goals.
Let's hope so Gus.
Gus, you have a serious "man crush" on Berbatov, it is plain this goes beyond him as a footballer. The deal could never happen pal, just like me with Batigol
That was a long time ago now...
Unless people really really doubt Berbatovs ability then i think it is whimsical for them to criticise this particular transfer - he hasn't got it wrong many times, i value his judgement far higher than somebody who says that we need something/somebody else with different characteristics.
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