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"Blackface" Discussion
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When this thread reaches 50 pages long it will be the pinnacle of redcafe history.
Napoli fans painted their face to show support towards Koulibaly after he was racially abused by Inter fans a few days ago
Ignorance is a drug.
Is this as racist in Italy as it is here? Maybe another case of cultural differences, like the Dutch festival thing?
The intent is good, but why do they feel the need to paint their faces in the first place?
The intent is good, but why do they feel the need to paint their faces in the first place?
The intent is good, and really that's all that should matter.
No worries, it is dead.
Can't believe Italy is so backwards at certain things.
Taken a bit of a hammering in the Steam reviews for that obviously unnecessary colour swap.
Chuchel thing's a bit much if you ask me.
Deary me!
A few times we've seen bars with advertising signs showing a golly with a cup of coffee (the brand it promotes has dropped that particular advertising, but it's still around). I think there's a fair way to go in some parts of the country.
feck
I don't see this as "shock horror". I seen this sort of thing when Lewis Hamilton was racing in Spain.
As i said in past pages, blackface is racist in US and the anglosphere because US influence. I didnt know that was a thing till i read this thread. Some people claim ignorance about something that is normal to ignore if you never had been exposed at this kind of US culture. For what i understood in this thread (and simplyfying it a lot) it has to be with the negatively charactaritzation of black people in some theatrical performances in the past in US. That didnt happen in Europe (at least sure not as popular) as we didnt have black slavery in such a predominance like US (% over population), so characters would not appear in theatricals as they were not part of our day by day. Black people was more seen like something exotic and not always portrait in a demenor way but even like kings from far away lands in theatricals. Saying that, i learnt here how offensive can be for some and know better
Uh oh ,Iniesta..
Finally, the world will avenge that extra time goal he scored in 2010.
Burn blancito.
Excuse my ignorance but what are they supposed to be dressed up as there?
A travelling band of paedophiles.
Going by the date and the emojis, I'd say those three kings who came and gave sweet baby Jesus some useless junk.
Well, it's the feast of the Epiphany today, so I would imagine they are the Three Kings.
(edit) - Balthazar is traditionally portrayed as a black king. There seem to be two sets of three in that picture, for some reason.
The 3 wise men,3 Magic kings,don't know exactly how you say in English.
Anyone know the situation with blacking up in Spain? Do we know how they feel about it?
Honestly, I knew they did something with the three kings in Spain but I had never realised it was such a massive Sinterklaas rip-off.
https://www.thelocal.es/20190103/why-spain-loves-the-three-kings-more-than-santa
When you say they, who do you mean?
If by 'they' you mean Spanish, what about white and black people in Spain. Maybe they have different views.
Well yeah I guess I really meant the black people of Spain. Is blackface as offensive in Spain as it is in the UK?
That I cant answer. I know Griezmann did it a few months back. Would have been interesting to see the responses that got.
He got slated for it over here and in the US. Can't say I know how they took it in Spain or France.
Well funny how in thread where we talk about tolerance, you just insulted catholics comparing 3 kings to paedophiles.
I know. I’m just as upset about it as you are.
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Husbands are livid understandably.
Tolerance is great, but I think being the butt of abuse and molestation jokes is somewhat understandable, given the global cover up of decades of abuse and molestation?
20 years ago, 99.9% of the population disnt know about blackface and was not considered an offense.
Currrently the vast majority has no idea about blackfacing and origins but tgey start to respect that if we have black people, why we should blackface a white dude? And they are starting to portray baltazar with black people. Every year more and more. But nothing to do about aknowledging blackfacing as is understood in US. That is why, the ones that stilm blackfacing (majority still)? People dont care
We three kings of orient are, blacking your faces is just too far..
Yeah this is why I’m hesitant to call everyone who does it a cnut regardless of where they are geographically. Without social media, (which people from the US seem to forget doesn’t revolve around the US) we probably wouldn’t know about this stuff, so I think you have to be a bit more patient when people don’t see stuff the same way you do. Maybe that’s controversial, I don’t know.
In The Netherlands, the knowledge of blackface being racist is quite easy to discern. It's when the controversy over Sinterklaas started.
Thing with racism is that the victim decides when it's racist not the perpetrator of said racism. That's where some of us seem slightly confused.
In this case I suspect it's no harm intended by Iniesta, but he should be told, as a global public figure, that it's not cool to blackface. Or as is more standard on the interwebs, post his phonenumber, homeadress and the shop his wife does groceries.
Haha imagine the wife of a multimillionaire footballer doing her own groceries
It is not understandable. If it is then you can find excuses for most of other things. I never heard for blackface before and in my country racism was never a problem so i can do it? Well, of course not. That is why, for me as devout catholic, that post was offensive
It's the default "joke" in many discussions, @Andycoleno9. Anything to do with Christianity always seems to come back to a comment of that nature. Anyway, you and I no doubt enjoyed celebrating the Feast of Epiphany at Mass yesterday.
So why is applying facepaint to accurately portray a character so bad?
Isn't fancy dress just about dressing up as someone else? Men as women, women as men etc...
Yeah I know, there are going to be racist origins of blackface but what about in cultures that don't have those origins? Does it mean that for the rest of humanities future no-one should dress up as another race?