Hmm... Reminds me of something I heard about Rosario Dawson. What a mess...
"Blackface" Discussion
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I'm not actually that sure people would know who you were meant to be with just the wig etc...and are you really going to lug a piano to a party
I can't comprehend how people blunder into blackface. Surely it would be easier to dress as Trump or prince Charles or whoever, keeping ethnicity out of it?
Simply evidence that black people have the ability to be every bit as fecking stupid as white people.
That whole debacle should have been rock bottom. The two years that followed proved that rock bottom has a basement.
Oh yeah definitely. You just wouldn’t even bother. I’m only going off what I’ve learned from this thread really. If you absolutely have to dress up as someone black then it can be done, just without blacking up.I'm not actually that sure people would know who you were meant to be with just the wig etc...and are you really going to lug a piano to a party
I can't comprehend how people blunder into blackface. Surely it would be easier to dress as Trump or prince Charles or whoever, keeping ethnicity out of it?
One of the replies. Surely this shouldn't be offensive, should it?
I've just typed at least 3 topical replies but deleted them all in fear of the PC reaction
Only to Cameleons
Just to throw some sexism into the mix is a cameleon-toe a multi racial camel-toe?
Racist or not is a subjective matter that should be based mostly on a case by case basis.
I agree. It depends on context, intent and a whole load of other variables that mean you have to assess each instance independently. What would you say about soldiers using camo then? Surely there's no-one out there who could genuinely find that offensive?
I dont think the majority of the world hates black or harbors some ill hatred racism towards them.
They should stop judging things based on USA standard
Agreed. This is also a point I made a couple pages back when the whole Dutch/Spanish thing was being discussed. It's a whole other world over there, and if blackface is only considered offensive in the UK/US and they genuinely don't give a shit then why are we trying to be offended on their behalf?
1) Who's they? The whole diaspora?
2) I live in the UK, I don't need to look as far as the US
Anyone would think racism only exists in the UK/US. This thread never ceases to disappoint...
Is that what I said?
Perhaps not the absolute majority, but racism is prevalent in the majority of the world for sure. Be it against blacks, people of different religion / tribe / sexual preference / gender / hair colour / shoesize / whatever. One of the biggest obstacles in fighting racism is the fact that quite a few people seem to think that it's a thing of the past. Of course racism is less rampant than it was in the 17th century, but it's still a global epidemic.
The case by case argument is a good one, because obviously soldiers wearing black camo to be less visible and less likely to be shot isn't racist, even though technically, they're blacking up.
You may have well as done though innit? A handful of posters on here telling you that blackface doesn't exist in their country, or racism isn't an issue seems to be enough for you to agree with them and push the narrative this is only a UK/US issue. If that's incorrect them maybe you should reassess what you post and how you may come across... Don't see how it helps tbh.
I'm merely saying that in condemning something we have no clue about, you're judging them by our standards. How do we know how it's perceived over there? There's a history of blackface in our country, and in the US, but the only time to act is if people in those countries consider it offensive. Otherwise you are literally getting offended on behalf of people who couldn't care less, which is not only misguided but also a little odd and clearly pointless.
And you've decided they (whoever and how ever many that may be) couldn't care less because of a handful of posters on here.... I'm done anyway not in the mood for this.
I'm admitting I don't have a clue. But don't you think it's a good idea to find out first?
Correction... You don't have a clue, I do. Go and find out, I'll leave it at that...
Look at your quote in that post. Here's what you said
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Ok so I can't read and I'm not smart, anything else you'd like to add before you toddle off on your quest for knowledge?
"I'm right, you're wrong, end of."
Hmm. I thought you were smarter than this. Oh well.
People can try to respond to that second column sincerely explaining things, I think it would be more fun to out-woke him.
He's so privileged that he doesn't know that people go underground, do dangerous manual labour, and get dirty and soot-covered. His classism is showing!
About the USA/UK thing, I can tell you all that in Portugal racism is alive and kickin. I'd bet it's the same in all countries.
The irony that 80s Michael Jackson is the only balck person white people don't need to blackface for.
Don't know what to make of it. Seems to be pleading ignorance for the one example (okay second chances and all that) and says the other example (with the KKK getup) isn't him.
So he admits it and apologizes yesterday saying "thats not who I am anymore" and now all of a sudden he claims its not him?
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...px.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/
Sounds like he's taking lessons from trump ... He gotta go
It’s not normally in my nature to chuck shit like that around, so sorry about that. Bad day.
I don’t think it’s an outlandish claim to make really. Would Spanish black people find blackface offensive in the same way someone from the UK or US would, even if they’ve no concept of why it’s historically considered offensive? I’m willing to admit I can’t possibly know since I’ve never met every single Spanish black person. How can we know what their attitude towards it would be? Shouldn’t we wait for them to say it’s offensive before deciding for them that it is?
This is a really weird statement. If someone had told me that I was that person in the yearbook my response would have been, quite simply, “No it’s not, I‘ve never dressed up like that” because I would know that I had never done it. Yet to him it seemed plausible that it could have been him therefore one has to assume that he has donned such an outfit at some stage in his life.
No, it’s getting quite stupid. Mary Poppins had soot from up the chimney on her face, miners have coal dust (ye all know what coal is and what a miner is don’t ye) and all armies wear camo paint.
Imagine being in the army and someone says ‘mate it’s 2019, you can’t put camo paint on your face like that’ whilst trying not to be seen by the enemy.
Yeah one of my work colleagues was in the army. I can just see his reaction.
All he had to do was ask for forgiveness.
UNC-Chapel Hill in 1979
And now the attorney general of Virginia. 2nd in line. All 3 DEMs now in some sort of spotlight. Guess who'd get the governorship if they have to step down? Yes, Republican(s).
No excuses for the DEMs actions but it can't be a coincidence.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47148045
No excuses for the DEMs actions but it can't be a coincidence.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47148045
What do you mean by “it’s not a coincidence”? That they are Dems or that it’s all coming out now?
Because if it’s the latter then of course it’s not a coincidence. Both sides have now set a precedence of trying to destroy and take down people by digging out unsavoury stuff they did in their teenage years. They’re digging through each other’s past with real zeal and stuff is being unearthed as a result.
This is the state of American politics in 2019.