He’s probably the best of the rest outside of Pep and Klopp imo.
He’s grown a lot since his spell at Liverpool.
He’s grown a lot since his spell at Liverpool.
Brendan Rodgers | Rejoins Celtic on 3 year deal
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Brendan is a quality manager and I firmly believe he is the best fit for United. His drive, man management and training methods clearly produce results and I cannot understand why we seem to overlook him;
- He has tons of premier league experience and has dragged two unlikely teams in Liverpool and Leicester to title contenders. He has no right being there with Leicester given their budget. He is an outstanding manager.
- He clearly trains the team hard in terms of patterns of play and all his teams are both dynamic and defensively sound.
- He has won silverware (yes with Celtic, but look at Celtic now without him...). He made Celtic into a juggernaut and literally won everything.
- He appears to be driven to win (not just get top 4). I seriously believe he would win the league with our current team.
I have no idea why Brendan is not mentioned more as a potential suitor to our club. I personally think we would be insane not to go for him after Ole. Yes his name is not at all fashionable, but that is irrelevant.
Superior?
Stop overrating things like Spurs fans. James Justin was just kid who came in from league one team to PL, Bennett is a championship player, and then 36 years old Morgan and etc, those players who covered your injuries or be part of the plan B won‘t even be guaranteed into starting XI of those teams last season, some were not good enough, some needed time to adjust from stepping up from low league to PL and some were ageing deadwoods.Your squad last season was never good enough to maintain consistency and handle the pressure from the top teams. Even last season when the first game week of the restart, I already knew United and Chelsea would make top 4 last season because both United & Chelsea had much better squad to maintain the consistency or handle pressure than Leicester‘s squad (post below as evidence). I can’t believe even after the reality check hitting you lot, you still couldn’t see the real problem last season but still insisting blaming on Rodgers for not having plan B when the plan A didn’t work and criticised his Substitutions decision when he had nobody on the bench and squad depth last season.
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He would certainly have us challenging thats for sure. If he can get Leicester regularly poking around top 4, with the money and team he would have here, he could push us all the way.
We are big for numerous reasons not just the fan base. We've not competed seriously for awhile but neither have United whilst spending much more since Ferguson left.
This is a transitional period for us with many younger players and an inexperienced coach in charge compared to the other big six clubs so of course the team will stutter occasionally. But I disagree that we've reached our end game as despite the transition and recent struggles we still win cups consistently.
@FriendlyFox was saying that Leicester was superior to Bournemouth, Brighton, Norwich, Southampton, Burnley, and Watford. Do you really think that's that ridiculous? Some of those maybe, but say Norwich or Bournemouth? Is it quite worth the ridicule?Superior?
Edit: With the injuries, I mean. With Leicester at full force, they clear should beat all of those teams.
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Nope. He's obviously correct about that particular claim.
You just need to read the post first before jump into conclusion quickly next time. Otherwise, you will miss the important bits again.
I meant this in the first place when I wrote it - as the edit indicated.
Would never take him - but he's just another example of a coach who would do better with this squad given his approach. Find it unacceptable that if we were to swap managers with Leicester they'd be devastated.
Very underrated coach, probably due to the slippy moment, but he gets his teams playing some good and effective football
Very underrated coach, probably due to the slippy moment, but he gets his teams playing some good and effective football
It's because he managed Liverpool before and he's an egoistical buffoon.
But I'll still gladly have him over Ole anyday.
Probably because the board think those top reds in our fanbase would not approve of his Liverpool connection
Would have him as manager tomorrow. Proven premier league coach, man manager. Would have us challenging year after year. Also longevity, could see him here for the long term.
Sorry, but there were a large number of criticisms last season that were absolutely spot on. The issues started early December before we even got any injuries. He was very very negative last season, constantly changing the team to try and counter the opposition, rather than actually trying to do what we're good at. Happened over and over again, it came across like he didn't trust the group and personally I think that rubbed off on us. You could see the confidence slowly drifting away. The number of times he'd play an extra DM, remove a winger and put Maddison out wide was a joke. It never worked and was a huge blindspot. A bit like his blind spot on Perez this season.It was laughable to read Leicester forum last season. The fans were jumping into conclusion, upset and blamed Brendan for bottling the top 4.
The injuries just compounded it, as you've seen this season. We've coped really really well with injuries, the injuries weren't the major problem last season. The whole team had just gone flt and lost all confidence, then it snowballs.
Rodgers has 100% changed that this season. He rarely makes those sorts of changes now, unless there is an injury which dictates a shape change. Plus he's admitted he's a bit more pragmatic, he's much happier to use the counter than he was last season. Which is why we've been getting results against the bigger teams, last season we were awful against anyone decent.
Now, did people overreact? Yeah, all the little kids who seem to expect us to win the league were crying, but the form was horrendous.
If he hadnt managed Liverpool I wonder would people be more open about him being United manager at some point. He ticks most other boxes in fairness.
(Yes I know we had Mourinho despite his Chelsea links but thats Chelsea and he was a serial winner at the time).
(Yes I know we had Mourinho despite his Chelsea links but thats Chelsea and he was a serial winner at the time).
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fecking hell..... Brendon Rogers being considered as an option??? you lot are having a laugh
He is a good coach no doubt but he was at the helm when Liverpool bottled the title and when Leicester bottled top four, so these question marks remain.
For sure. That's the one issue for me.
Exactly. Would Leicester fans be happy if we swapped coaches? How about Chelsea fans? Inter, Barcelona, Atletico? Real president would not survive a minute if he appointed Ole.
One of the greatest managers in the history of the club, Sir Matt Busby played for Liverpool for nine years. I honestly don't think him managing Liverpool has any problems regarding United ever approaching him.
I do think If Ole goes, he'll be our next manager. Once Poch was gone, I think he's the one Woodward and the United board will look at it
Not strictly true we beat West Ham and Newcastle straight after them defeats.
Seems to be maturing as a manager. I wouldn’t have considered him before but now I’d consider him before Poch
I wanted him when we had Jose to be honest. I don't care about him managing Liverpool. They sacked him and he should win stuff with us, making it sweeter.
I think he has been advised by PR type people to back down a touch on his ego. He doesn't come across as quite so arrogant anymore.
I think he could get the best out of a Manchester United squad but I really don't want to see him go.
Although.......... him coming here and being successful would be similar to the fun we had when Micheal Owen won the league with us....
I know we won't consider him because of Liverpool connection but would be a good appointment
The thing that still puts me off him was back in his last season at Liverpool where he went into the game away to Real Madrid - with the chance to qualify from their group still achievable - and played his B team.
I'd never seen such a defeatist thing in football like that. I think Gerrard had a big problem with that, thinking back.
He’s done an incredible job when you consider the limited budget he’s working with. He’s a better manager than Arteta, Tuchel and Ole imo, and should be earning another call at a big club soon.
Hopefully you’d think he would learn from that
I agree. In fact, which manager would you appoint over him in place of Ole? Yes Pep, but that won't happen. I honesty think he ticks all our boxes otherwise and can't think of anyone better (and that includes abroad, who although superficially desirable, have no premier league experience and / or experience of winning trophies). Hopefully our board are keeping a close eye on him.
Agree with this.
At Liverpool I saw him as a bit of a nob who rode Suarez's coattails but he has really impressed me at Leicester. They play as a cohesive unit, they always play hard, he has brought through and improved a number of younger players, and I've only very very rarely ended a Leicester match thinking they were out-managed. Hard to ask for more than that.
I have said this before, but I think he would have us clear at the top of the league with our current squad. In fact, I am confident of that. Also, his desire to win the league would be immense. He would jump at the chance to manage United.
I agree. I think Spurs & Arsenal are dead ends for him but in all honesty Manchester United would be tailor made.
Agreed... I honestly would take Brendan over any other manager based on all factors. Again look what he did with Celtic... they weren't just 'good', they won everything with him, literally everything. He couldn't be more tailor made if he tried. Unfortunately I am not convinced in our board to see the 'obvious'. I am also surprised our fans rarely mention him in relevant next - manager discussions.
I’m shocked Arsenal haven’t taken a serious look at him. He has an established history of improving players and won’t demand high profile signings.
They did but they had to move on.
You lot can stay away as well, if for some reason you don't like the manager who has you second in the table, there is plenty of unemployed to chose from.
I honestly don’t think his Liverpool past has anything to do with it, I mean he is hardly a Pool legend. It’s nothing like Klopp. He didn’t win the league and got sacked.
I believe main reservations are not winning the league with them, but even more the 14 points lead he gave away last season.
He definitely has his weaknesses but if Ole left he would be my preferred choice. I rate him more highly than Tuchel or Hasenhüttl.
The fact is, apart from Pep, Rogers is the only proven coach who has performed well in the premier league. Poch had a good season at Spurs when they reached champions league final. However following season was poor and hasn’t really done anything else in the long term, prior. All others mentioned are built up by the press as up and coming managers but managing united is a different beast. Ole is not the answer, continues to frustrate the majority and his style of playing on the break against the so called bigger teams, unable to break down teams who park the bus and a team who plays with a lack of intensity, over reliant on players to create that special moment to rescue us or indeed win leads me to believe as a coach he has serious shortcomings. We have spent as much as anyone, yet his big money signings such as Maguire really are not good enough for United. Rogers all the way for me.
Rodgers, like Poch, has proven that he too can not win the league.
Do you think Bruno isn't good enough for United? Or Tevez?