He's always been great in the league - particularly strong at building attacking teams - and poor in the chess matches of European football.
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He's lost a few chess matches in the PL too. His team is set up for attack and he gets found out against well organised sides like Potter's Brighton
Well fair enough maybe throwing it away was harsh but you catch my drift.
Even as a United fan never mind Leicester if my options were top 4 vs winning the Uefa Cup i'd prefer the latter every time.
Ditto,
Winning a European trophy is an amzing achievement, certainly for Leicester, and the Europa also carries with it the added bonus of auto Champions League qualification.
Oh of course. Winning the Europa with Jose was more enjoyable than coming second the year after.
Weird. Loads on here before the first leg of the Sociedad tie were saying they don't care about the EL and would happily play the youngsters and go out. Now when Leicester go out, it's apparently a big deal.
Ha! Very true.
He picked a strong enough team.
Ole or any other manager would be slaughtered for going out to Prague with such a strong team fielded.
agreed. Coming second means absolutely nothing to me. It’s nothing to celebrate. As a sign of progress, league position matters, but if we aren’t winning it (and not even challenging, like that season), I won’t even remember it.
there were only 3 players available that he didn't pic that would be considered first choice and all 3 came on, we picked a team that was good enough to win we simply didn't play well
Meaning you were outplayed
I think the point is more that he's never had a good European record at any club. I don't think Leicester, despite top 4 being a great target for them, should be snubbing a European competition either.
we didn't as I said only Barnes, Ricardo and Castagne who would be considered first choice and were available didn't start and all 3 were brought on, had we picked the kids and sacked it off people would have more of an argument
It's a difficult balancing act, the yr we won the Europa league, we finished 6th in the league. As much as cups are great to win, would Leicester fans be happy in that same scenario, everything riding on one final cup game, whilst finishing outside top 4. Rodgers got flak and rightly so for not making top 4 last season. I don't think teams deliberatley set out to lose in certain competitions but subconsciously they can prioritize some over other. That same season we won europa, we did the same in the EFL. Jose definitely went all out in the cups, he was realistic in his goals he'd say, although many of us felt top 4 should have been achieveable as well. Rodgers needs top 4 this season for their to have been a visible improvement. Not saying he's happy he is out, I think top 4 is his goal, cups were/ are a bonus.
Do you have more examples though? Cause for your one example, I could counter with him beating City, who take well-organized to the next level. So I'm curious what's the actual sample size for being outdone in chess in league matches. Not having seen the match, I also wonder if that's what happened yesterday. (To be clear: I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm genuinely if this is correct in general or cherry-picking.)
Didn't Conte reach the EL final with inter just last year?
Well, exactly? You 'tried' but he still went out which just shows he has a mental block when it comes to Europe.
I don't think they did, though. They just didn't play well. I also don't think it's the end of world tbh.
hardly his mental block that caused our players to pass like crap and play like strangers, that team was good enough to win the game, there is only so much the manager can do, maybe he could have gambled with the fitness of Castagne & Ricardo but if he had and they got reinjured I guarantee he would get more abuse from Leicester fans for that then this
It’s apparently due to Madison’s absence. If Madison keeps sidelined, it could be a repeat of what happened last season after project restart. He is the key man for Leicester.
its more the total lack or replacements available last night, Praet and Perez were injured and Iheanacho who probably would have played was banned from a BS yellow in the first leg so we moved Tielemans there, but that meant we didn't have a playmaker deeper, Rodgers is doing well given the lack of options in key creative positions, we need to focus on those positions in the summer but that was true before the season started
City at the start of the season when they needed 3 penalties? City who are the best in Europe right now are not the City teams played in August/September. Jose turned them over and recently they strolled to a win over Liverpool and Spurs.
I'm just not over the moon impressed with Rodgers. I thought they bottled it big time the back end of last season, they flatter to deceive in a lot of games. Yes they have some good players but in games I've watched where they've both won and lost they have looked vulnerable and needed an individual performance to get them out of jail. They can win impressively at times but I saw them completely outplayed by Moyes' West Ham- the same Moyes who became a laughing stock on here.
I'm just saying that for him to be classed as a cult hero figure, he has to do a bit more against organised teams. Potter for me with Brighton's resources does a lot more against good sides. He's a far better coach in my book.
I'm not sure what the Conte reference is about. He's won the PL here and several Italian championships. I'm not seeing a comparison with Rodgers
Football isn't an exact science. You can have off days and it doesn't suddenly make you a shit team or manager.
Its not weird, thats how they roll.
I loved winning the Europa with Jose. It has probably been the biggest single highlight since Fergie retired and I really enjoyed the final.
If it was a close run affair against a seasoned side like Porto or Benfica, fair enough, but it was against Slavia Prague. It is yet another match where their manager has been outmaneuvered in Europe by an inferior side.
All this has done has heaped on the pressure now. It’s top 4 or bust for their season. I think they will stay in comfortably, but it’s unnecessary pressure and a really disappointing result.
If it was a close run affair against a seasoned side like Porto or Benfica, fair enough, but it was against Slavia Prague. It is yet another match where their manager has been outmaneuvered in Europe by an inferior side.
All this has done has heaped on the pressure now. It’s top 4 or bust for their season. I think they will stay in comfortably, but it’s unnecessary pressure and a really disappointing result.
I think you are underestimating Slavia Prague, they are a very good side, probably won't be together much longer but they would do well in the PL if they were in it this season
Thank God we have non plastic bunch like yourself to balance things out. Wouldnt be bothered with a loss and getting out of Europe competition and you gonna ride on your high horse calling them plastic.
Zima looks a good player.
if you mean the young lad who scored the second that's Sima the other is their captain I think
I meant throwing the opportunity away as in playing poorly and not progressing. I wasn't suggesting the manager or players didn't try to win. Maybe poorly worded.
No, Zima the CB.
Was it the same posters though?
Fair enough, thanks for indulging me.
Can't really be bothered checking but there's a few familiar names. It's just agenda posting, though.
He did but that was after dropping out from the CL group stages. I don't think they were in the EL from the start.
Sim Zima who’s got the keys to my bimma
If they don’t use this as his chant then I’d be very upset.
Thousands of us support teams that have never won a European trophy. You live with it, you dont choise who you support.
To be honest your reply confuses me mate as I wasn't trying to criticise or demean Leicester or their fans in that post.
My point in a roundabout way was that fans should hold actually winning trophies as more important than coming top 4.
United have won European trophies before. And it was stupid when those people said that anyway.
Which was the point.