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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Read the comments on this. Full of people saying they'll boycott BMW then and more 'will of the people' BS. Do people genuinely want the UK to leave the EU at any cost?

Who're they going to blame when the real difficulties of Brexit occur, after we've actually left?
 


Read the comments on this. Full of people saying they'll boycott BMW then and more 'will of the people' BS. Do people genuinely want the UK to leave the EU at any cost?

Who're they going to blame when the real difficulties of Brexit occur, after we've actually left?


Oh they'll keep blaming the EU no doubt.
 
French customs have worked to rule today to show what will happen after Brexit. Massive delays ensued.
 
I just watched this guy explaining the problems of a No Deal Brexit from a legal perspective. He left no sources for what he was saying so I have to take him at face value. However he claims that from Human Right perspective No Deal would be illegal due to the lack of food and medicine which would endanger life, the lack of existing laws to replace EU laws or laws not being in place in time for the end of March and insurance policies being null and void for many people which could lead to a backlog of cases.

If he is right about this and the UK government persists with a No Deal Brexit then surely it cannot be legal.

 
After watching that Fyre Festival documentary on Netflix, I believe that Brexit is very similar but on a much bigger scale. They had many chances to pull the plug but just continued until it was too late and it turned into an absolute laughing stock of a shitshow. I wouldn't be surprised if May ordered one of her staff to perform certain "favours" in order to gain necessary concessions from Brussels.

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It was about customs, wasn't it? After Brexit, perhaps Theresa herself may have to ask for favours from Customs officers. Those lucky bastards. She can dance, too!
 
I just watched this guy explaining the problems of a No Deal Brexit from a legal perspective. He left no sources for what he was saying so I have to take him at face value. However he claims that from Human Right perspective No Deal would be illegal due to the lack of food and medicine which would endanger life, the lack of existing laws to replace EU laws or laws not being in place in time for the end of March and insurance policies being null and void for many people which could lead to a backlog of cases.

If he is right about this and the UK government persists with a No Deal Brexit then surely it cannot be legal.



For food he is wrong, you don't need an actual deal to trade food, you will simply have to respect WTO basic rules. For medicines, I don't know the exact process but if I'm not mistaken the issue is about licenses and their regionalisation (like insurances) if I'm not mistaken the UK government should get in touch with manufacturers and should have done that a long time ago.
 


Read the comments on this. Full of people saying they'll boycott BMW then and more 'will of the people' BS. Do people genuinely want the UK to leave the EU at any cost?

Who're they going to blame when the real difficulties of Brexit occur, after we've actually left?

Anybody but themselves, just look at @Stanley Road posts in this thread.
 
Anybody but themselves, just look at @Stanley Road posts in this thread.

Are people answering that Tweet really that stupid with there Project Fear comments and we are taking back our power this from BMW is because if a no Deal happens then there will be disruption to the supply chains, car parts criss cross different countries and with no customs union there will be hold ups so no wonder that they are considering moving some of the engine production to Austria.
 
The latest that I have heard is that Brexit is like the Millennium Bug a lot of panic but nothing will actually happen. If you come back with Honda and Nissan they say that they were going to leave anyway and has nothing to do with Brexit. People will never accept that they were made a fool of. It can never be their fault therefore what ever happens there has to be some other reason for it.
 
The latest that I have heard is that Brexit is like the Millennium Bug a lot of panic but nothing will actually happen. If you come back with Honda and Nissan they say that they were going to leave anyway and has nothing to do with Brexit. People will never accept that they were made a fool of. It can never be their fault therefore what ever happens there has to be some other reason for it.

Except with theY2K bug there was a couple of years of hard work to prepare for it.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail
 
Except with theY2K bug there was a couple of years of hard work to prepare for it.

Fail to prepare, prepare to fail
Yeah I know. I understand the work that went into preparing for the Y2K bug. I know people who were drafted into it and the hours they had to work. They don't though. They have heard a buzz feed that someone has come out with regarding project fear and vaguely remember the headlines about planes falling out of the sky which didn't happen so they think it's cleaver to parrot the line and use it to say that people overreacted before and are doing so again.
I live in an area where people are proud to have banners saying Leave Means Leave in the back window of there cars. Where people say to you, I bet you're a Remainer? Then when you say yeah they go I thought so you're the type. To which I reply, thank you. I'll take that as a compliment.

I don't argue with them as because as the saying goes, “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
 
These warning don't mean shit anymore. It's like the Trump debate. If you're for it, nothing is changing your mind.
 
I live in an area where people are proud to have banners saying Leave Means Leave in the back window of there cars. Where people say to you, I bet you're a Remainer? Then when you say yeah they go I thought so you're the type. To which I reply, thank you. I'll take that as a compliment.

I don't argue with them as because as the saying goes, “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
Hopefully, folk like that will stay in the UK for their holidays from now on, and European resorts won't have to put up with their general boorishness.
 


:lol: rioting in Berwick on Tweed.


It’s wonderful how the debate is always framed around not offending the 17.1 million leave voters (or however many are still alive) in their little towns. The other c.50 million citizens of the UK, and places like London, Manchester, Bristol and Edinburgh, just have to lump it.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/society...hind-rising-racial-tensions-research-suggests

Britain’s low income masses, often known as the “left behind”, appear not to be the main cause of rising racial and religious tensions, according to research showing middle income earners are more likely to feel threatened by immigrants, Muslims, Gypsies and Travellers.

Nearly four out of 10 people believe immigrants threaten Britain’s future, with 31% worried about Muslim people, 41% believing Gypsies, Roma and Travellers pose a slight or major threat, and 6% concerned about Jewish people, according to a poll. But more of those who express fears about immigrants have a household income of between £25,000 and £50,000 than those who earn least.

Far from wanting to “take back control” most people who fear immigrants also declared themselves very or fairly satisfied with life and said they were completely or mostly able to influence decisions that affect their lives.

 
It’s wonderful how the debate is always framed around not offending the 17.1 million leave voters (or however many are still alive) in their little towns. The other c.50 million citizens of the UK, and places like London, Manchester, Bristol and Edinburgh, just have to lump it.

Honestly, as bad as it sounds, the pandering to close minded small town people who just want to point a finger at anyone but the people actually responsible for their problems has caused nothing but negatives in the last four years or so. It’s that exact demographic that gave the world Trump and Brexit.
 
Q: Can you assure us that the largest seven EU trade deals are ready to be rolled over in the event of a no-deal Brexit?

Fox says the UK is making good progress on this front. The UK is ready to roll over these deals. But it is reliant on other countries to be ready too.

UK government makes astonishing discovery that negotiating with itself leads nowhere.
 
At this point I believe a number of brexiteers want a no deal simply to see what it's like to watch it all go up in flames.
 
Interesting rumour from a journo after pmq's on 5 live.
The dup are coming under signifigant pressure from businesses to ensure no deal is avoided... And that the Cox codicil /codpiece /amendment might give them sufficient cover to then back Mays deal.

This would then bring a chunk of the erg on-board... But probably not enough to get the deal through on 12th.

However if no deal is then rejected and an extension approved the rest of the erg and a few labour leave MP's would then swing behind Mays deal...(especially if the EU ask for the extension to be more than a few weeks) And then the passes before 29 march.

It does seem like her only option... And still a bit of a gamble... But equally the maths is probably there for that to happen
 
The problem here is that avoiding no deal does not necessarily equal supporting May's deal.

Looks like there very likely aren't going to be any "legal" change on the backstop. This would appear to be yet more May desperation to go with the bribery and everything else.

I don't see May getting her deal through without the legal changes on the backstop. May has been running the clock down as no other strategy other than the threat of no deal, which May, Hammomd and the rest are of course the biggest opponent too... The EU know this and that is one of the main reasons the "deal" is so appalling in the first place.

Ultimately nothing has changed since December. Still the same options. Still the same transparent charade with May threatening no deal, which she is absolutely opposed too.
 
The problem here is that avoiding no deal does not necessarily equal supporting May's deal.

Looks like there very likely aren't going to be any "legal" change on the backstop. This would appear to be yet more May desperation to go with the bribery and everything else.

I don't see May getting her deal through without the legal changes on the backstop. May has been running the clock down as no other strategy other than the threat of no deal, which May, Hammomd and the rest are of course the biggest opponent too... The EU know this and that is one of the main reasons the "deal" is so appalling in the first place.

Ultimately nothing has changed since December. Still the same options. Still the same transparent charade with May threatening no deal, which she is absolutely opposed too.

There can’t be any real change to the backstop such as a unilateral right to revoke or a short time limit. The question is whether the Attorney General can concoct some fluff which is acceptable to the EU and superficially different enough to the December deal to allow MPs to save face if they vote for it.
 
There can’t be any real change to the backstop such as a unilateral right to revoke or a short time limit. The question is whether the Attorney General can concoct some fluff which is acceptable to the EU and superficially different enough to the December deal to allow MPs to save face if they vote for it.

Yep. That is exactly the position.
As they have maintained, there will be no change from the EU so it will need some form of smoke and mirrors illusion to allow Mrs May to get her deal through and I expect that to happen.