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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
68 is the new 35.
To be fair, he didn't say all old people, just the ones that voted leave
I got mine a couple of minutes ago. It was in my Junk Mail folder.No wonder, look at what you have to do to confirm.
This was captured over 1 hour ago and still no e-mail.
You're still alright for a few years yet, another 10 years, max, before you become a complete idiot.
Read his post again and you will see that there is a comma before old people.
Don't come down on him for his grammar. You know exactly what he's saying and if you voted remain then it's not you he's being ageist about
Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
What is she going to crush them with? Her trousers?
Yes. The comma separates the statements "Only half the people are idiots" and that "Most of the idiots are old people". He's demonstrably not saying all old people are idiots....just lots of them.
Which, I guess means what he's saying is that the older demographics voted leave in larger percentages. Which is objectively true. This isn't the same as saying all "old" people voted leave.
He also calls everyone who voted leave an idiot. This I would argue is not true. Some of them are just wrong, some of them are cnuts and some are idiots, wrong and cnuts.
He is, however, not calling you or any remain voter an idiot.
EDIT: Just re-read, sorry to hear about the passing of your MiLYes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
Those figures do prove that the only other group that rated higher for a leave collective was stupid people though.
The figures do seem to support that age and education were major factors so it should not really be surprising if people make sweeeping generalisations using synonyms for "elderly" and "uneducated" (as I did above).
I'd like to see the revised figures now though, I'm feeling the older generation figure will be dramatically reduced (as they originally trusted their printed media and have now been lectured for 2 years by their offspring). However, I feel the lower end of the educated figure will be about the same IMO.
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A petition won't make the government take action but it's certainly making opposition MPs take notice and gives them cover to attempt to force a debate on it if nothing else. This time yesterday very few people were even discussing revoking article 50 with any seriousness.
Also gives an answer to Mays claim that there's no evidence the public have changed their mind.
Who'd have thought 5 years ago during the Scottish referendum that the SNP would be practically the only united government party talking sense about remaining together
@Buster15 @Fingeredmouse @SqueakyWeasel
My original post was a generalisation, which I probably shouldnt have made - I apologise for that.
Of course, if you really want to get into grammar nitpicking then my original statement was:
"that it is only half of the country (probably not even that now), and mostly the old people, who are complete idiots"
Its a bit of a stretch to interpret that as meaning "all old people are complete idiots". Clearly it was referring to the demographic of the overall population that voted leave, and the fact that proportionally, older generations had a far higher Leave vote than the younger ones.
My original post was a generalisation, which I probably shouldnt have made - I apologise for that.
Of course, if you really want to get into grammar nitpicking then my original statement was:
"that it is only half of the country (probably not even that now), and mostly the old people, who are complete idiots"
Its a bit of a stretch to interpret that as meaning "all old people are complete idiots". Clearly it was referring to the demographic of the overall population that voted leave, and the fact that proportionally, older generations had a far higher Leave vote than the younger ones.
I was on your side!
Signatures from Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia
My signature will show up as from Germany … the petition is open to ALL British citizens (wherever they are in the world)
Signatures from Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia
It's the "location" parameter that you are reading
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Bloody old people cant read.
On this issue, it'd always have been so. The SNP are pro-Europe and pro-business party and the conflation between Scottish seeking independence and leaving the EU to the extent where holding a remain EU opinion alongside a pro-Scottish independence position is somehow seen as contradictory has always confused me. Both issues are a bit more nuanced than being in or out of something.Who'd have thought 5 years ago during the Scottish referendum that the SNP would be practically the only united government party talking sense about remaining together
Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
Look at that. A majority of the old and the uneducated voted to leave. No suprise there.
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Remind me, why is Labour led by an ardent Leaver at this time of crisis? They're not doing a stellar job of representing the interests of their own voters. Or at least that's how it seems to me.Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
I like it and find it somehow nice – after all the shit that was chucked at the Scots during their referendum … don't spoil it for me
Well, you see, its like this.
There was once a man by the name of Edward Samuel Miliband. He wanted to turn the Labour party into a grassroots movement. One day, after not thinking anything through, he decided it would be rather good to let any old Tom, Dick or Harry with a spare £3 contribute to selecting party leaders.
No problems. Apology greatfully accepted my friend.
I do realise that it was a generalisation. As I have previously mentioned, emotions are running pretty high regarding Brexit and I am most concerned about the very divisive nature of this.
Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
I'd love to know the thinking behind the UKIP supporters who voted remain.
The "parliament won't allow No Deal" crew better think again.
Conservatives have shown time and time again they will never put country before party.
Conservatives have shown time and time again they will never put country before party.
Signatures from Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia
Wow 12 from Russia?! They’re making a concerted effort to meddle here. There’s no way there is 12 expats or travelling brits in Russia right now.
Huge numbers!
They were probably old people who I am led to believe cannot read.
Not all of them.
I remember around the time of the result the BBC were interviewing a WWII veteran who was devastated. He essentially said he fought for what Europe is now and the UK are undoing all of that.
Don't be stupid
All they care about is not surrendering, religious distinction and right wing fundamentalism.
It's going to hit 1 million today.
That's the most bizarre thing on there, everything else is no surprise. Must have been too thick to read the ballot properly.
DUP have always wanted a no deal despite what they might have said. They are right wing fundamentalists who sit well with the ERG crowd.
Didn't get my confirmations email, bloody Russians meddling again