On a side note, you know that you could see "speak french and be clean" on Occitania schools walls.
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Laura Kuenssberg, BBC:
'Whispers this morning that clerks in Commons have made it clear to govt that Bercow would not allow them to bring back the deal for another vote - one source says this is a 'BIG PROBLEM' - with capital letters - BUT Speaker's office says not decided yet - let's see.'
'Whispers this morning that clerks in Commons have made it clear to govt that Bercow would not allow them to bring back the deal for another vote - one source says this is a 'BIG PROBLEM' - with capital letters - BUT Speaker's office says not decided yet - let's see.'
I should have been more explicit. The issue with languages that aren't first languages, english in the UK or french in France isn't new and not so long ago it was even institutionalized. The type of sentiment that Farage exacerbates is dangerous and it's part of the history of a lot of EU countries and it's something that we don't really want to go back to.
Labour are the progressive party. They are the party of the people. They are abstaining on giving the option back to the people to decide. People like fecking Lisa Nandy who despite all her bullshit waffle has just shown herself when its crunch time to be just a career politician. I hope she and the rest of the feckwits who abstained or voted against 2nd ref yesterday get fecking decimated in the upcoming polls.
When does the Queen start getting involved?
Labour whipped to support it. I agree on those who abstained or rebelled but that's a criticism of the members not the party.
Still a footnote in comparison to the Tories which was the point
I think i will - although no doubt his inbox is full of gammons demanding this and that.
Loved the clip of the schoolkids discussing Brexit on the BBC. I'm tempted to support a voting age of 11, never mind 16.
Send her a pizza first.
That's not good enough the same people from Friday pretty much abstained or voted against. They need to put real pressure on the MPs to get the votes needed. It is quite clear they just care about their seats so threaten them with taking the whip away or not supporting them with their local association then you will see how they will all fall in line. I have no issues with the Tories because they are very open about wanting to have a small government, small public service sector and quite frankly want to turn this country into a tax haven. This is why my problem is with Labour. They need to get a real fecking grip!
If a vote of no confidence goes against the government then the Queen can ask someone to form a new government.
When tourism is affected which is unlikely whatever the outcome
Pfft, May won't let anyone from the outside world into her inner circle.
That sounds a bit rude, actually...
Does she still see the Queen every Wednesday? Do you think Her Maj calls May a twat?
This is all very interesting, but I stopped reading at "obtained by the Daily Mail".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47789298
More details of Cooper's plan...
Suspect mv4 will happen Thursday or Friday as well?
I have to say that I can't see why the EU will grant a long extension unless something changes so no deal is indeed looking more likely.
Wonder if / when another confidence motion might be launched... Perhaps Thursday?
We won’t be leaving with no deal. It’s been ruled out over and over, May simply wouldn’t do it. We’ll be taking part in the EU elections and getting a long extension. I wish they would just stick the customs union on to her deal and pass the damn thing already.
They haven't actually removed no deal as the default and yes I think she would do it.
No news coming out of the cabinet crisis talks yet?
And, yet, apparently May saying she will choose no deal if it comes down to a choice between it and revocation. At some level this is treasonous, surely? It is all very well for an ill-informed Joe down the pub to choose no deal, but the cabinet have seen the data on this. How can they willingly choose no deal?
Cos it's the will ov da people d@ brexit means brexit init #gerronwivit
Yeah, it is stupid beyond belief.
The only potential gain I can see of Brexit is that the fallout from it will be so catastrophic that the British people will not fall for this sort of con so easily again.
Or the whole deconstruction of the British political and economic system. The death of both the Tory and Labour party and the current neo-liberal economic system.
That would be good too. Inadvertently, Brexit could be the resetting event the system needs. It is certainly not working well.
Wouldn't get your hopes up, The Conservatives have been around for years and they always weasel their way back after destruction like cockroaches.
Them and Labour both.
To be fair the history of the Labour party is but the blink of an eye compared to the Tories.
Interesting thread. Apparently none of the major parties apart from the Conservative's and indirectly the DUP ever advertised No Deal as a good thing in their manifesto's.
If a no confidence motion was called tomorrow... and the ERG didnt back May then I believe there is a period of 14 days to form a government... but presuming one can not be formed that commands a majority on the house then we have no government for 14 days and there is nobody to stop the legal default of no deal?
or is there a safeguard against that... otherwise that must be a realistic prospect?
Unfortunately I don't see this in Britain or anywhere else. Politicians/rulers keep using the same tricks to fool people all the time. Keeps working and will keep working IMO.
I'm assuming parliament would be able to pass motions to continue doing business, but in truth who the feck knows any more. This stuff is totally unprecedented. If the ERG try it though, they're traitors pure and simple.
Things could be worse, there's a fair few places in the world where the army would be preparing to settle the matter about now. Fortunately there's still a fair degree of respect for democracy here, dwindling as it sadly is.
I will be storming the Bastille if that happens.
Bercow did say he would only entertain a fourth vote if it had significant changes . So unless something miraculous come forward in the coming days , it could be a no deal.
better do it quick before the flights and chunnel get stopped
So, it looks like we are sleep walking into oblivion?