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Good point. Think of the christmas celebrations!!
You betcha. A quick spark in the pan. And then it will be gone. As quickly as it came.
Yeah, it is so galling to see that no one seems to care.
Oh why do you lie?
Have I told you guys I love you guys? Good to know most of you are literate and rational.Wait...you mean they're actually Brexiteers
Brexit is so good that 95% of them need to pretend they didn't vote for it. That's despite fecking winning as well.
You literally tried to argue for it. Got a little too cocky for your own good and called people moaning and salty. Then you realised you were wrong and tried to backtrack.
Seriously, do yourself a favor. It is not a bad thing to admit you are wrong, learn to be a better person from this and move on.
The arguments presented by you have already been debunked multiple times. Now move along, son.
There's a mixture of Brexiters pretending not to be Brexiters and others who are insulted to suggest that there are British people who are extremely stupid or gullible.
It's always been a big joke to cnuts like him. These rich cnuts think Brexit is all a jolly wheeze and an easy way to make money They have never given a feck about people being worse off because it's mostly just a load of unwashed plebs that they don't have to ever encounter in real life.
Thought it was something to do with the UK and Canada getting emergency or interim approval that lasted a year whilst the EMA wanted to get full approval for the vaccine?
Either way, its hard to argue that that aspect of the the UK's vaccine program hasn't worked out so far. Although this is probably better in the vaccine thread.
I find it rage inducing that the Tories get away with throwing the charge at Labour of being the political elitist class.
These people don't care about the impacts to actual people it's just debate club fun to them.
I'm sure the biggest joke to him is that the "unwashed plebs" voted for them. You cannot make it up.
Yeah I found the order, on the December 10th they issued an order of emergency use. And no is arguing against the UK vaccine program, that program just has nothing to do with Brexit.
And somehow this motley collection of born to rule public schoolboys and offshore media magnates managed to paint remainers as the elite.
Mogg needs a bloody good thrashing but he'd probably love that considering his background.
Because they behave as similar as the Mafia's Omerta
If I would be more of a sensible man, that would make me cry. How they can be so cruel? If I would be a brittish fisherman and I would loose my life sustain and I would see this cnut saying this, I don't know if I would do something that I would regret later. How he can mock like this the lifehood of so many? Specially when he has a big part in the responsability? At least shut up
The line followed by Farage etc was the same line followed by Trump. Paint everyone against Brexit, them etc as the elite. This is what got them through and made Brexit. It’s a scary thought that the public who believed them cannot fathom that Farage and Mogg are conning them into believing that and they are in fact the elite. I mean how dim do you have to be to believe what Mogg says?
Don't worry, is the same argument that UK couldn't enforce immigration policies because they were dictated by the EU, when it was the UK decision to not implement them. And that is how they truely won the referendum
Christ. JRM really is just taking the piss
He is almost laughing. Man is trolling while people lose livelihoods
Because he has utter contempt for working class people (particularly the marks who fell for his con). If I were Sturgeon, that clip would be getting heavy rotation in any Indy Ref 2.
In a technical sense sure but I do think it‘s demonstrative of a benefit of Brexit. In certain situations a the UK can be more agile and responsive than if they were part of block.
Did the EU27 make an error in thinking that sheer economic might would paramount in the vaccine race, or did they believe solidarity was key given that Brexit was just around the corner and because of the criticism it faced for not helping Italy enough during the early days of the pandemic?
Whatever the case, it‘s hard to believe that Germany would be so far behind right now if they’d have gone it alone given the strong hand they had in developing one of the successful vaccines, similar to the UK.
How can the fish be happy that they're British? They're dead
They committed economic suicide.
They are happy to die in British waters
What are you talking about, it's not a race, EU members don't have the same vaccination strategies, they don't act as a block and the UK are currently the worst affected country in western Europe.
Well, JRM as Leader of the House (whatever that is supposed to mean) cannot be telling lies can he...
And so, he must have been talking to the British fish.
Shame he isn't sleeping with the fish as well....
Yes. And I am sure that is somehow the fault of the EU.
He managed to convince the sheep, now he's trying to convince the fish.
A fish has died and you're laughing?
I understand that the majority of UK Fishermen actually voted leave.
What goes around comes around eh.
But sadly, most all the bad news about Brexit is being lost in the general pandemic news.
Seriously, it does my head in. For some everything has to be seen from the EU vs UK point of view even when it's irrelevant. The french decision to not use the emergency use process is based on the french context, it has nothing to do with the EU but with the idea of not creating more doubts around the vaccine because apparently we have a fair amount of lunatics roaming our streets.
Race is just a turn of phrase. All badly affected countries are trying to to roll out vaccinations as fastly as possible, hence the use of ‘race’.
The EU27 acted as a block in terms of procurement and in terms of getting vaccines approved and the result has been suboptimal. I’m not sure that this is a controversial thing to claim?
What does the UK being the worst affected have to do with procurement and roll out? Belgium and Italy have more deaths per million population anyway but many countries in Europe have been terribly affected. Getting people vaccinated as quickly as possible is of paramount importance for all European nations.
Regardless, my point is that because of Brexit the UK can be more agile and responsive in some situations and I think this has been a case in point.
Here is the thing, only a few countries have used the emergency that the UK used, was that because the rest of the world is less agile than the UK even though they weren't part of a block that doesn't prevent them from doing the same thing? Or do you think that the reason is somewhere else and linked to these countries in particular, as I said, I know why France didn't do it and it has nothing to do with the EU.
True but the real anger has to be directed at the likes of Farage, Gove and Hannan rather than the ordinary working joe who bought into their lies.
In a weird way the pandemic has hidden many Brexit problems. If trade and tourism were operating at pre-Covid levels it would be utter chaos - only because travel and trading are so reduced the effects of Brexit have not been really seen (yet).
I never passed comment on French motivations. I used Germany as an example and that‘s been a sentiment some German politicians have expressed ‘why are other countries rolling out a German vaccine before us’. It’s a fair question and I highly doubt if they’ve had procured independently they’d be in that situation. The German health minister has even said that they had to act ‘European’ in policy which certainly suggests some ideological consideration behind the decision.
https://www.thelocal.de/20210113/ge...mistakes-in-covid-19-vaccine-strategy-january
You can look at what Israel have done as a small country by paying a premium to queue jump and they’re blasting it. I’m sure a number of smaller rich EU countries could have done that if they‘d have procured independently.
Again, my point is that as an independent nation in some situations you can be more agile and responsive than as part of a block. I don’t think this is a controversial point personally.
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If you can separate french and german motivations and strategies, then you are clearly talking about individual decisions which is my point. The issue isn't the supposed controversy but the lack of relevance because the question was about the approval of the vaccine which is a decision that is took at a national level.