There was no EC/EU in the UK either in the 60s when I was growing up. The point is that if the UK voted against immigration in Brexit, they could only have been voting against immigration from EU citizens. Whom are they going to vote against next now that the overwhelming number of immigrants are from outside the EU? They have total control (and always did have) but now both the Tories and Labour both spout the rubbish "We've lost control of our borders" because of the tiny number of people in boats. And furthermore neither have any idea of the number of real illegal immigrants who arrive, say on a tourist visa, don't go back and vanish into the ether.
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There was no EC/EU in the UK either in the 60s when I was growing up. The point is that if the UK voted against immigration in Brexit, they could only have been voting against immigration from EU citizens. Whom are they going to vote against next now that the overwhelming number of immigrants are from outside the EU? They have total control (and always did have) but now both the Tories and Labour both spout the rubbish "We've lost control of our borders" because of the tiny number of people in boats. And furthermore neither have any idea of the number of real illegal immigrants who arrive, say on a tourist visa, don't go back and vanish into the ether.
It's not up to border control to process their application. There should be proper places like embassies and processing centres etc but the Uk have been offered this; They don't want it because if the boat people problem was actually solved they'd have to find someone else to blame. Telegraph, hmm. It's not illegal to leave a country. They were offered places in Calais to process people - no they didn't want that. There are less than a handful of safe routes to the UK available to these people. These boat crossings only really started after Brexit. You have to be in the country to claim asylum which they have the right to do.
I'm only going by what I've googled here but this is what the Amnesty International website says on the matter
OK, start with the parents and see if she finds Rwanda sooo good she follows
Rwanda is a wonderful place according to the government. But it's a big deterrent. Joined up thinking not working.
And it's such a great idea that no-one else has thought of it
Hmm. Yes.
I'm just going to hire a coach and go and collect all the British people I know who shouldn't be here, overstayers . Can round up about 20 or 30 in a 10 miles radius. Now shall I take them to the airport and put them on a plane back to blighty or send them to North Korea as I have decided that it is a safe place. I'd love to see the indignation on their faces.
How far do you want to go back, my DNA takes me back to what is now Germany
I don't think you know how Border Control works.
If you arrive in the UK without the necessary documents you were taken to a holding centre, those centres have been overrun by the numbers arriving, so they are being sent to other holding places like hotels, disused army camps or even accommodation barges.
Article 31 of the UN convention on refugees states
"Although it’s certainly true that crossing the Channel without authorisation isn’t a legal way to enter the UK, Article 31 of the UN Refugee Convention states that refugees cannot be penalised for entering the country illegally to claim asylum if they are “coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened” provided they “present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence”.
A lot depends here on how to interpret which country people are “coming directly from”. It could be argued, for instance, that as the people crossing the channel are coming directly from France—which is not the country they initially fled—they don’t have the right to claim asylum in the UK.
There is no obligation for asylum seekers to apply for asylum in the first country they enter, otherwise it’d be hugely unfair on neighbouring countries and lucky for those that are on islands.
They have to be on British soil to claim Asylum ie in an Embassy or actually not stopped at a border point. You don't understand. France is not the first country they enter. They can choose whichever country they want to claim asylum.
Under your logic all the countries would send everyone back to where they first entered Europe. Additionally if someone were to be sent to Rwanda they could claim that they were already in a safe country before, ie the UK.
And the places are overrun because the government is not processing the people. Probably the people processing them were EU citizens and they've all gone back to the EU, the irony.
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The inherent characteristics of an asylum seeker say otherwise. They usually seek for asylum because they are somehow persecuted by the state or the state's laws in their countries of origin. Therefore they tend to not have the means to arrive to a different country by airports and ports as they'd need passports or VISA with clearance from their countries of origin to do that.
In order to circunvent this, most countries allow embassies to act as both a safe haven for asylum seekers and a way to adequately command and control the process. The UK does not, therefore leaving them with no feasible legal way to seek for asylum.
Now if you're talking about illegal immigration, that's a different beast.
My dna can be traced back to Rwanda, I went over there on a dinghy but they refused my entry as it wasn't a safe country
You did really well to get to a landlocked country by dinghy.
I wasn't going to use the "race" thing but you are indeed correct
Haven't found the unicorns yet?
She hasn't figured out yet that someone lied when they told her she looked good in that pink monstrosity she's wearing
She hasn't figured out yet that someone lied when they told her she looked good in that pink monstrosity she's wearing
Lots of bad decision making.
Where there's a will there's a way, and there's always a feckin way
Badenoch may just be dumber than Truss...
‘It’s all a bit marginal’: claims of Brexit trade perks don’t add up, say firms
A business department report trumpeting the four-year benefits of leaving the EU does not match the reality faced by companies
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...irms-business-department-leaving-eu-companies
‘It’s all a bit marginal’: claims of Brexit trade perks don’t add up, say firms
A business department report trumpeting the four-year benefits of leaving the EU does not match the reality faced by companies
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...irms-business-department-leaving-eu-companies
Anyone who thought Brexit was a good idea at the time of the referendum was stupid, uninformed and gullible.
Anyone who still thinks Brexit is a good idea is a moronic dildo, to put it politely.
Another of those idiots who it never occurred to that any change of rules would apply to them even if it isn't convenient.
Then again anyone who takes their political advice from listening to a metal band's singer has to be a bit thick.
They were all told this!!!! Taking equipment abroad becomes a joke, I’ve got friends in the filming industry and their job is harder because of this rubbish.
First of all I really like his views on why he doesn't want to pay tax in UK.
Secondly I hate his music and don't understand why I can see any British band I want in NL yet he has issues.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-tea-shortages-due-to-trade-route-disruptions
UK shoppers could face tea shortages due to trade route disruptions
Waiting for Liz Truss to recommend Brexiters to buy Yorkshire tea.
UK shoppers could face tea shortages due to trade route disruptions
Waiting for Liz Truss to recommend Brexiters to buy Yorkshire tea.
You have to be pretty desperate to risk your life on a boat crossing no matter who you consider a "genuine" refugee, and don't you think they would arrive by safer ways if they could?
Stupid and cruel and likely illegal "solutions" like Rwanda treat a symptom and not the cause. And give the Tories the bragging wrights to saving middle England from (mostly dark skinned) dangerous foreigners.
Apart from Australia. We having been doing it for years. The sad thing is that indefinite offshore detention in a gulag does actually reduce boat arrivals. As long as you don't mind permanently victimising already traumatised people by subjecting them to never ending mental and physical abuse, at incredible cost, mostly for political point scoring.
We have heard dimmer things. Wait for the government announcement followed by panic buying.
GB News launch poll 'Should Britain rejoin the European Union?'
https://midgard.opinary.com/compasses/gbnews/should-britain-rejoin-the-european-union
Oh dear!!
https://midgard.opinary.com/compasses/gbnews/should-britain-rejoin-the-european-union
Oh dear!!
Now the real poll should be in the EU, asking "do we want them back? I suspect that would be well below 50%93% right now saying yes.
I doubt it, it's a pain in the arse for everyone.
Looks like GB news took the poll down as the result turned out really badly for them. What a pathetic crowd.
Is the brainwashing not working as well as it was?
Is the brainwashing not working as well as it was?
Brexit...feck yeah!
Brexit has cost UK food companies exporting to EU an extra £170m
Exclusive: Data shows costs have contributed to value of meat exports falling by 17% since 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/21/uk-food-firms-exporting-eu-brexit-red-tape
Brexit has cost UK food companies exporting to EU an extra £170m
Exclusive: Data shows costs have contributed to value of meat exports falling by 17% since 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/21/uk-food-firms-exporting-eu-brexit-red-tape
Worth it to develop our own COVID vaccines.
Quote: Labour has said that if it gets into power, it will aim to strike a veterinary agreement with the EU, which would remove the need for some of these costs but could take years to finalise and would require the UK to agree with EU standards on these goods.
Labour still don't understand the problem and keep harping on about this stupid Veterinary Agreement.