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This tweet sums my feelings. Brexiteers say we should take them and brexiteers seriously and produce shit like this.
 
Please watch this conversation, both videos.




When I first saw DD's "idea", I thought it was a joke reporting by the Sun, but it is actually being seriously considered by the government.
I don't know who that woman is but obviously she is a extremely thick, as thick as mince Davis.

Is there anyone on the Brexit side who actually understands what the problem is?
How is it that people on the Brexit side continue to be able to talk so much rubbish.

It has turned the UK into a laughing stock.
 
When I first saw DD's "idea", I thought it was a joke reporting by the Sun, but it is actually being seriously considered by the government.
I don't know who that woman is but obviously she is a extremely thick, as thick as mince Davis.

Is there anyone on the Brexit side who actually understands what the problem is?
How is it that people on the Brexit side continue to be able to talk so much rubbish.

It has turned the UK into a laughing stock.

I still think that it's a joke that nobody understood. His solution to the Irish border is to put two borders...
 
Please watch this conversation, both videos.



I mean she is sorta of correct. There really is only four possible but also impossible solutions(For various political reasons)to the NI border.

1)A United Ireland

2)A hard border

3)Norway style deal/staying in the single market

4)Not going through with process.

So it shouldn't really be a surprise we are spending most of the time putting forward and dismissing shite alternatives.
 
I mean she is sorta of correct. There really is only four possible but also impossible solutions(For various political reasons)to the NI border.

1)A United Ireland

2)A hard border

3)Norway style deal/staying in the single market

4)Not going through with process.

So it shouldn't really be a surprise we are spending most of the time putting forward and dismissing shite alternatives.

2 and 3 are the same.
 
2 and 3 are the same.
Is it ?

http://theconversation.com/would-st...brexit-avoid-a-hard-border-with-ireland-92485
How to avoid a hard border

Corbyn’s proposal, if the EU agreed to it, would reduce customs checks along the frontier and be a hugely welcome boost to cross-border trade and to the prosperity of both the UK and Ireland. It is also infinitely preferable to the May-Johnson free trade area plan. What it will not do, however, is end the prospect of a hard border.

For this, both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland need to be in a single market with one another. One way of doing this is for the UK as a whole, in leaving the EU, to stay in a single market and customs union relationship with the EU 27 states – what could be called a “Norway plus” deal.
Another is the fall-back option within the EU’s draft withdrawal agreement – that Northern Ireland remains part of the current EU customs territory after Brexit.
 
I still think that it's a joke that nobody understood. His solution to the Irish border is to put two borders...

Why not make it three borders and have no-go areas in between . I think very few people have understood what the problem is.
So the next few weeks the cabinet will be discussing more fantasy stuff and again it will be dismissed out of hand by the EU as soon as it is presented.

Either everyone is a simpleton in the UK government or they're just hoping all these delays will get them through the next election.

Reality is going to hit a lot of people very hard very soon.
 
Yes, there is a border between Norway and the EU with border checks. And Norway aren't in the Custom Union. To put it simply this isn't a Norway deal nor a Norway deal plus or any other nonsense, it's EU membership.
It's going to have to be sort of a deal like Norway

Michel Barnier

“The only frictionless option for the future with the UK would be ‘Norway Plus,’ Norway being part of the single market, plus a custom union, for each of the other models we have the obligation to create and implement control for the goods, for the standards for the norms and all the rule of origins.”

And this from the economist
https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/02/22/norwegian-lessons-for-brexit-britain

''Another idea might be to graft a customs union on to a British EEA deal. This has been called for by the biggest British business lobbies. It would make it easier to avoid a hard border in Ireland. But it would make it impossible for Britain to do free-trade deals in goods with third countries. The freedom to strike deals in services, however, would remain.''
 
Economics, Brexit-style.

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It's going to have to be sort of a deal like Norway

Michel Barnier



And this from the economist
https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/02/22/norwegian-lessons-for-brexit-britain

So two things, first frictionless is different from borderless, the Norway deal allows easy border checks because there is no divergence between both sides, in that sense the Norway deal is the example to follow but again the border still exists and border checks are still present. Secondly the Economist solution means that the UK ignores all their red lines, it means common legislation, jurisdiction, custom and trade areas which is exactly what the UK are trying to leave. It leads us to Barnier point before the quote you provided, there is no added value to Brexit.
 
It's going to have to be sort of a deal like Norway

Michel Barnier



And this from the economist
https://www.economist.com/britain/2018/02/22/norwegian-lessons-for-brexit-britain

Norway (single market) + the customs union is almost the same as EU membership ie with the 4 freedoms, the only difference from being in the EU is that the Uk will be paying more and having no voice and extra Brucey bonus - no Farage.
The UK have ruled out the CU, the SM and the ECJ and freedom of movement.
 
With a few more changes of govt leaders in the eu zone, i think im going to start liking it. Might become pro eu even. Long way to go yet tho.
 
I guess there's a kind of solace to be taken from the fact that we're now at the point where the shrill are claiming that giving people or their elected representatives a final say on the outcome of the negotiations would be "undemocratic".

The response by Breixters to the point that people didn't know what they were voting for seems often to be: "Yes they did, we voted for whatever deal the government gets unless we don't like it in which case we didn't vote for that deal and the government has betrayed the people who voted for Brext" - which never really made sense to me.
 
Hopefully Brexit will lead to the realisation that we’ve had spastics in charge for 40 years and they can be changed. Doubt it though. We’ll probably cry wank ourselves back into the euro

Yeah, we have had years of seemingly blaming all our woes on the EU. Now we are seeing how incompetent we have been for years and years.
 
Governments No-Deal brexit scenario has been leaked. Another govt source saying Dova would collapse on day 1.
 
Governments No-Deal brexit scenario has been leaked. Another govt source saying Dova would collapse on day 1.


Seems pretty obvious. The country imports vast numbers of things we depend on, and many of them are delivered just before they’re needed. If there’s suddenly huge delays getting those across borders, then where do people think they’re going to magically appear from?
 
Scenarios like these aren't going to work for those that want hard brexit. The likes of Fox, Mogg and co want a no deal and all the trouble that comes with it so they and their backers can pick up cheap assets. I work in an investment bank and these rumours keep swirling.The country would have no choice but slash tax rates to prevent the inevitable capital flight. Then these bastards can now bring their money in.
 
Scenarios like these aren't going to work for those that want hard brexit. The likes of Fox, Mogg and co want a no deal and all the trouble that comes with it so they and their backers can pick up cheap assets. I work in an investment bank and these rumours keep swirling.The country would have no choice but slash tax rates to prevent the inevitable capital flight. Then these bastards can now bring their money in.

You just have to look at the jobs of Brexit main patrons...