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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Exactly right - utterly pointless to say a deal is 95% complete if the 5% not completed is the core issue that if not resolved will make a deal impossible.

Exactly.

Those disinfectants that claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria omit to mention that it's the 0.1% that they don't kill which we need to worry about.
 
Exactly right - utterly pointless to say a deal is 95% complete if the 5% not completed is the core issue that if not resolved will make a deal impossible.
"Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" - sounds familiar
 
Exactly.

Those disinfectants that claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria omit to mention that it's the 0.1% that they don't kill which we need to worry about.

If the 0.1% includes a bacteria that will potentially kill the entire UK then you might think that the fact the 99.9% killed is fairly irrelevant?
 
Tusk sticking the foot in and confirming it was May who proposed the extension. Awkward
 
Exactly.

Those disinfectants that claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria omit to mention that it's the 0.1% that they don't kill which we need to worry about.

If the 0.1% includes a bacteria that will potentially kill the entire UK then you might think that the fact the 99.9% killed is fairly irrelevant?

While appreciate the analogy, the reason disinfectants claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria is because it cannot be proven that they kill 100% of bacteria and therefore cannot advertise as such, so 99.9% is the closest they can get while being factually correct, in all likelihood they probably do kill 100% of bacteria. Sorry to disappoint!
 
While appreciate the analogy, the reason disinfectants claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria is because it cannot be proven that they kill 100% of bacteria and therefore cannot advertise as such, so 99.9% is the closest they can get while being factually correct, in all likelihood they probably do kill 100% of bacteria. Sorry to disappoint!
As long as you're using the word 'probably' it's best not to try and correct them... Imo.
 
My living memory includes Thatcher, and Cameron doesn't begin to compare in those stakes.

I think Brexit may end up being as bad as Thatcher's class warfare and social destruction. Although I think the later was in the end what fueled a crucial part of the leave vote.
 
I think Brexit may end up being as bad as Thatcher's class warfare and social destruction. Although I think the later was in the end what fueled a crucial part of the leave vote.
No doubt there are going to be terrible consequences and I don't want to argue about it or take the thread off topic but to my mind Cameron unwittingly offered a bad referendum on what had been the Tories manifesto. Thatcher on the other hand knowingly and at times spitefully ruined whole industries and supporting ones, communities and their futures using the Police as her own army setting them against the British people they were meant to serve damaging the relationship for generations. I know which PM was the worst.
 
I think Brexit may end up being as bad as Thatcher's class warfare and social destruction. Although I think the later was in the end what fueled a crucial part of the leave vote.

I’d agree that the leave vote was in many ways a legacy of Thatcher - most tangibly, the abandonment of the old industrial areas but also the us vs them culture war that she fostered. In terms of relative damage, it’s too early to say for sure although Brexit certainly has the potential to be more long-lasting in its effects.

For me, the worst part is that the Brexit mess does not even have the fig leag excuse of being the implementation of a misguided ideology. Instead, it was a born to rule dilettante who needlessly plunged the country into acute crisis and then ran away. If you swapped the names for David and Samantha, then Fitzgerald summed it up -

“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”
 
I’d agree that the leave vote was in many ways a legacy of Thatcher - most tangibly, the abandonment of the old industrial areas but also the us vs them culture war that she fostered. In terms of relative damage, it’s too early to say for sure although Brexit certainly has the potential to be more long-lasting in its effects.

For me, the worst part is that the Brexit mess does not even have the fig leag excuse of being the implementation of a misguided ideology. Instead, it was a born to rule dilettante who needlessly plunged the country into acute crisis and then ran away. If you swapped the names for David and Samantha, then Fitzgerald summed it up -

“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

That makes me think of something that was written on the insert of Radiohead's No Surprises single (I think)... I can't find the exact paragraph, but it was about how people like to assume that there is someone steering the ship, someone always in control. But there isn't.

Brexit seems like a prime example.
 
While appreciate the analogy, the reason disinfectants claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria is because it cannot be proven that they kill 100% of bacteria and therefore cannot advertise as such, so 99.9% is the closest they can get while being factually correct, in all likelihood they probably do kill 100% of bacteria. Sorry to disappoint!

No, they can't say it because bacteria create resistance.
 
No doubt there are going to be terrible consequences and I don't want to argue about it or take the thread off topic but to my mind Cameron unwittingly offered a bad referendum on what had been the Tories manifesto. Thatcher on the other hand knowingly and at times spitefully ruined whole industries and supporting ones, communities and their futures using the Police as her own army setting them against the British people they were meant to serve damaging the relationship for generations. I know which PM was the worst.

Can't argue with that.
 
I'm trying to be optimistic so if Brexit means we get more quality fried chicken then at least I can clog my arteries and die before life becomes too shit.
Have you eaten American meat? It's so shite compared to European meat. They're all fecking corn fed over there.

Actually American food in general is shite in comparison, enjoy.


:lol: Love Waterford Whisper's
 


Where’s that Putin laughing gif?

Didn't it take Russia something like 20 years to agree all its WTO details as we (amongst others) drilled into and objected to loads of things... No big shock... Half expecting a Chinese warship to start blowing Brighton up untill we agree to sell opium for them... Reap what you sow etc

Edit it took russia 18 years https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16212643

Also an article dating back to 2016 predicting WTO negotiations would not be straight forward

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....t-battleground-is-the-wto-uk-theresa-may/amp/

Even new zeland and the usa are objecting to our proposals
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Moscow along with more than a dozen other countries, which include the United States and New Zealand, have raised objections to the UK’s post-Brexit trade proposals.
 
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Shows how little understanding there still is of the consequences involved in a no deal Brexit. Although i guess they could be brexiteers lying for the poll.
Pretty much. I think people had no idea that it was going to take this long to leave and now its turned into bizarre sort of apathy were a large part of the population just wants the quickest way to leave.

If there is a border in NL I'm not sure it will at all effect English and Welsh people views on Brexit or national party polling.
 
Pretty much. I think people had no idea that it was going to take this long to leave and now its turned into bizarre sort of apathy were a large part of the population just wants the quickest way to leave.

If there is a border in NL I'm not sure it will at all effect English and Welsh people views on Brexit or national party polling.

I'm fairly certain my old mans a brexiteer and i know his response to any challenges would just be "Nonsense, it'll be fine".

He's from northern ireland originally too :wenger:
 
I'm fairly certain my old mans a brexiteer and i know his response to any challenges would just be "Nonsense, it'll be fine".

He's from northern ireland originally too :wenger:
Jesus! There isn't much hope for the anyone then.

I wonder if the recent relatively comfortable history of the UK has made people forget that things can end up going very badly.
 
Pretty much. I think people had no idea that it was going to take this long to leave and now its turned into bizarre sort of apathy were a large part of the population just wants the quickest way to leave.

If there is a border in NL I'm not sure it will at all effect English and Welsh people views on Brexit or national party polling.
If there is a boarder and it takes us back to the Bombings and violence remainers will say told you so and we should have stayed in the eu... Brexiteers will say it's the EU's fault and it's proof we were right to leave .... Uuurggghhh emigrating is becoming more tempting by the day
 
If there is a boarder and it takes us back to the Bombings and violence remainers will say told you so and we should have stayed in the eu... Brexiteers will say it's the EU's fault and it's proof we were right to leave .... Uuurggghhh emigrating is becoming more tempting by the day
Oh god this is clearly going to happen. I can also see Katie Hoey argument being used as well - if the Irish don't want a border than they should leave the eu too.

Although if your a conservative mp it will give a bit more weight to the labour are taking us back to the 1970's shtick.
 
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I'm fairly certain my old mans a brexiteer and i know his response to any challenges would just be "Nonsense, it'll be fine".

He's from northern ireland originally too :wenger:
Yeah, my mum just glibly says 'the pound will recover', with her zero understanding of financial markets. I'm kind of done with criticising the whole thing- when labour MPs and left wing spokespeople like Paul Mason are making the same mistakes, suggesting dead-end policies, I'm going to liquidate all of my investments tomorrow -my wife did a few months ago and she's more cautious than me, but outperforms.
 
Oh god this is clearly going to happen. I can also see Katie Hoey argument being used as well - if the Irish don't want a border than they should leave the eu too.

Although if your a conservative mp it will give a bit more weight to the labour are taking us back to the 1970's shtick.

Ireland will be leaving anyway apparently so it's no problem:



From the same MP who brought you this: