balaks
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Exactly right - utterly pointless to say a deal is 95% complete if the 5% not completed is the core issue that if not resolved will make a deal impossible.
Exactly right - utterly pointless to say a deal is 95% complete if the 5% not completed is the core issue that if not resolved will make a deal impossible.
"Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" - sounds familiarExactly right - utterly pointless to say a deal is 95% complete if the 5% not completed is the core issue that if not resolved will make a deal impossible.
Exactly.
Those disinfectants that claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria omit to mention that it's the 0.1% that they don't kill which we need to worry about.
"Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" - sounds familiar
Is it a Red White And Blue backstop though?There is no deal without a NI backstop. It's as simple as that.
Is it a Red White And Blue backstop though?
If the 0.1% includes a bacteria that will potentially kill the entire UK then you might think that the fact the 99.9% killed is fairly irrelevant?
Theresa May's Brexit will make people worse off, damning poll reveals
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...-worse-off-damning-poll-reveals-a3970186.html
Exactly.
Those disinfectants that claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria omit to mention that it's the 0.1% that they don't kill which we need to worry about.
If the 0.1% includes a bacteria that will potentially kill the entire UK then you might think that the fact the 99.9% killed is fairly irrelevant?
As long as you're using the word 'probably' it's best not to try and correct them... Imo.While appreciate the analogy, the reason disinfectants claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria is because it cannot be proven that they kill 100% of bacteria and therefore cannot advertise as such, so 99.9% is the closest they can get while being factually correct, in all likelihood they probably do kill 100% of bacteria. Sorry to disappoint!
My living memory includes Thatcher, and Cameron doesn't begin to compare in those stakes.
No doubt there are going to be terrible consequences and I don't want to argue about it or take the thread off topic but to my mind Cameron unwittingly offered a bad referendum on what had been the Tories manifesto. Thatcher on the other hand knowingly and at times spitefully ruined whole industries and supporting ones, communities and their futures using the Police as her own army setting them against the British people they were meant to serve damaging the relationship for generations. I know which PM was the worst.I think Brexit may end up being as bad as Thatcher's class warfare and social destruction. Although I think the later was in the end what fueled a crucial part of the leave vote.
I think Brexit may end up being as bad as Thatcher's class warfare and social destruction. Although I think the later was in the end what fueled a crucial part of the leave vote.
I’d agree that the leave vote was in many ways a legacy of Thatcher - most tangibly, the abandonment of the old industrial areas but also the us vs them culture war that she fostered. In terms of relative damage, it’s too early to say for sure although Brexit certainly has the potential to be more long-lasting in its effects.
For me, the worst part is that the Brexit mess does not even have the fig leag excuse of being the implementation of a misguided ideology. Instead, it was a born to rule dilettante who needlessly plunged the country into acute crisis and then ran away. If you swapped the names for David and Samantha, then Fitzgerald summed it up -
“They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”
While appreciate the analogy, the reason disinfectants claim to kill 99.9% of bacteria is because it cannot be proven that they kill 100% of bacteria and therefore cannot advertise as such, so 99.9% is the closest they can get while being factually correct, in all likelihood they probably do kill 100% of bacteria. Sorry to disappoint!
No doubt there are going to be terrible consequences and I don't want to argue about it or take the thread off topic but to my mind Cameron unwittingly offered a bad referendum on what had been the Tories manifesto. Thatcher on the other hand knowingly and at times spitefully ruined whole industries and supporting ones, communities and their futures using the Police as her own army setting them against the British people they were meant to serve damaging the relationship for generations. I know which PM was the worst.
Because we are going to be eating American chicken after Brexit.Wait, why are we talking about bacteria?
Because we are going to be eating American chicken after Brexit.
Have you eaten American meat? It's so shite compared to European meat. They're all fecking corn fed over there.I'm trying to be optimistic so if Brexit means we get more quality fried chicken then at least I can clog my arteries and die before life becomes too shit.
Where’s that Putin laughing gif?
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Moscow along with more than a dozen other countries, which include the United States and New Zealand, have raised objections to the UK’s post-Brexit trade proposals.
Where’s that Putin laughing gif?
Pretty much. I think people had no idea that it was going to take this long to leave and now its turned into bizarre sort of apathy were a large part of the population just wants the quickest way to leave.Shows how little understanding there still is of the consequences involved in a no deal Brexit. Although i guess they could be brexiteers lying for the poll.
Pretty much. I think people had no idea that it was going to take this long to leave and now its turned into bizarre sort of apathy were a large part of the population just wants the quickest way to leave.
If there is a border in NL I'm not sure it will at all effect English and Welsh people views on Brexit or national party polling.
Jesus! There isn't much hope for the anyone then.I'm fairly certain my old mans a brexiteer and i know his response to any challenges would just be "Nonsense, it'll be fine".
He's from northern ireland originally too![]()
If there is a boarder and it takes us back to the Bombings and violence remainers will say told you so and we should have stayed in the eu... Brexiteers will say it's the EU's fault and it's proof we were right to leave .... Uuurggghhh emigrating is becoming more tempting by the dayPretty much. I think people had no idea that it was going to take this long to leave and now its turned into bizarre sort of apathy were a large part of the population just wants the quickest way to leave.
If there is a border in NL I'm not sure it will at all effect English and Welsh people views on Brexit or national party polling.
Oh god this is clearly going to happen. I can also see Katie Hoey argument being used as well - if the Irish don't want a border than they should leave the eu too.If there is a boarder and it takes us back to the Bombings and violence remainers will say told you so and we should have stayed in the eu... Brexiteers will say it's the EU's fault and it's proof we were right to leave .... Uuurggghhh emigrating is becoming more tempting by the day
Yeah, my mum just glibly says 'the pound will recover', with her zero understanding of financial markets. I'm kind of done with criticising the whole thing- when labour MPs and left wing spokespeople like Paul Mason are making the same mistakes, suggesting dead-end policies, I'm going to liquidate all of my investments tomorrow -my wife did a few months ago and she's more cautious than me, but outperforms.I'm fairly certain my old mans a brexiteer and i know his response to any challenges would just be "Nonsense, it'll be fine".
He's from northern ireland originally too![]()
Oh god this is clearly going to happen. I can also see Katie Hoey argument being used as well - if the Irish don't want a border than they should leave the eu too.
Although if your a conservative mp it will give a bit more weight to the labour are taking us back to the 1970's shtick.
I'm fairly certain my old mans a brexiteer and i know his response to any challenges would just be "Nonsense, it'll be fine".
He's from northern ireland originally too![]()