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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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But presumably if may brings her deal back and it's tagged on as an amendment it shows a majority against against no deal... It's a tiny majority but when the whole thing is based on 51 Vs 49 then that probably scuppers that counterargument
No but it does suggest that if no deal was truly on the table, it simply would not get through the commons.
It doesn’t have to ‘get through the commons’. If the commons doesn’t pass some legislation to ratify a deal (or withdrawal of A50), we leave without a deal.
Let's be honest if the only motion that passes is to rule out no deal may will have a very quick negotiation with the EU...
No negotiation... Get the deal through as it is or withdraw A50... Crack on luv
No negotiation... Get the deal through as it is or withdraw A50... Crack on luv
Does show parliament does not support no deal though. Even with 2 months to go and no pressure on.
Not anything new.
This farce has a bit to run yet.
Could the commons pass a motion forcing the withdrawal of A50... Afterall parliament voted to trigger it
As an amendment to government Brexit legislation, maybe. It’s unclear.
I don’t think there would be a majority for withdrawing A50 anyway.
Yes as long as it's serious and not just a negotiation tactic. Has to be legislation, just needs a majority.
Well no but the political pressure to avoid it just went up a notch plus it also lessens the threat the UK might have had in negotiations as we clearly do not support a no deal. So May needs to deliver a deal.
It will do more than that though I think?
If May is directed to renegotiate the WA and the EU refuses to do so (as everyone knows they will) then politics of what is acceptable back in the UK shifts somewhat? As in with each option (even false one) that gets rejected another (like May's deal, for example) becomes more politically palatable to some?
Brady Amendment
Yes 317
No 301
Yes 317
No 301
Brady gets through. Make no difference at all though. UK still has no alternative to the backstop and EU have flatly (and rightly) refused to move on it. I hope the EU tell them to feck off.
May acknowledges there is a "limited appetite" from the EU to reopen the withdrawal agreement and that it won't be easy.
If they do now may will say it's only because of the no deal amendment that made the EU refuse to negotiate... Labour blocked brexit... Labour and EU's fault we go to a no deal
Problem is, the deal itself is bad. The backstop makes it totally unacceptable though. Potentially no escape from it and the government will lose the DUP. The agreed withdrawal agreement will almost certainly never get through parliament.
Hence Brady amendment. Last desperate throw of the dice for May.
Options now still agreed withdrawal agreement, no deal or no Brexit.
Expect EU statement again saying no more negotiations.
So. Labour were right about a No Deal...
This country is run by feckless twats.
Gotta love Bercow as the Speaker, not afraid to get stuck in!
Jeremy Corbyn responds, saying he is prepared to meet with the prime minister and that he "looks forward" to putting across Labour's views on Brexit
The backstop is a potentially great position for NI to be in and I'm all for it. The DUP are the only ones really against it. The UK were the ones who negotiated the bloody thing in the first place.
Presumably extending A50 would still be an option too?
Media friendly faces suddenly really keen on the idea of de/reselecting Labour MPs.
Odd that.
Odd that.
She's a perpetually lying little snake, yet I still find her weirdly a little bit attractive.
Sadly, now I can relate to some of those comments about Sarah Sanders in the Trump thread.
Dodds literally isn't talking for NI here.
Its ridiculous.
They don't want to be a part of this.
Its ridiculous.
They don't want to be a part of this.
She's a perpetually lying little snake, yet I still find her weirdly a little bit attractive.
Sadly, now I can relate to some of those comments about Sarah Sanders in the Trump thread.
She is a vile person. She's been caught lying about keeping information linked to russian spending in the referendum and claimed she forgot it was in her attic. Yet everyone ignores it.
They are all a pack of self-service, arrogant liers
No surprise there.
That's it in a nutshell.
If you want a united Ireland? Problem is DUP are in coalition supporting government, and also conservative MPs want union as one.
Yes it's 100% May's and UK negotiaters fault.
Looks a certainty although these amendments were pointless anyway.
Pound's dropped 1.5 cents since yesterday morning.
With a purpose EU would probably agree. Not just for more time I think.
You can just about imagine that conversation...
M... Jeremy what do you want for brexit
C... A unicorn and an election
No its just a really good position for Northern Ireland to be in. They'd be half in and half out of both jurisdictions and basically get the best of both worlds with none of the risks.