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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Yes property values have fallen since the 2008 economic crisis, people are extremely worried for their future. How many millions of British people are going to be severely hit by this madness, those living abroad and those living in the UK but as long as they have taken their country back, what does it matter.
My house dropped 50k in that period but has gone up 100k since that low.

But we probably have a stronger economy than France
 
My house dropped 50k in that period but has gone up 100k since that low.

But we probably have a stronger economy than France

I was talking about Spain as well. House prices in rural areas have been hardest hit. But it was the flood of Brits moving abroad over 10 years ago that boosted prices significantly
 
How does that compare to the Treasury's forecast before the vote?

£220bn seems like...a lot.
 
How does that compare to the Treasury's forecast before the vote?

£220bn seems like...a lot.

Well a while ago the UK built the largest single site hospital in Europe and it cost £575m. So it only adds up to enough to build 382 of those. Small change really.
 
Well a while ago the UK built the largest single site hospital in Europe and it cost £575m. So it only adds up to enough to build 382 of those. Small change really.
But the bus said...
 
The OBR says that if it hadn’t been for the Brexit vote their projection for annual net migration to Britain would have been 80,000 a year higher at 312,000 in 2017 falling to 265,000 by 2021 and contributed around 0.2 percentage points each year to potential growth in the economy. They estimate that this net migration factor alone accounts for 0.9 percentage points of their judgement that the EU referendum has reduced potential output by 2.4 percentage points.
 
The OBR says that if it hadn’t been for the Brexit vote their projection for annual net migration to Britain would have been 80,000 a year higher at 312,000 in 2017 falling to 265,000 by 2021 and contributed around 0.2 percentage points each year to potential growth in the economy. They estimate that this net migration factor alone accounts for 0.9 percentage points of their judgement that the EU referendum has reduced potential output by 2.4 percentage points.
Time to get brits off the dole and back to work. Savings all round
 
OBR implying that their forecasts might even be optimistic.
Given the uncertainty surrounding the choices and trade-offs that the Government may have to make, and the consequences of different outcomes, we have not attempted to predict the precise end result of the negotiations. Instead we have made a judgement – consistent with most external studies – that over the time horizon of our forecast any likely Brexit outcome would lead to lower trade flows, lower investment and lower net inward migration than we would otherwise have seen, and hence lower potential output. In time the performance of the economy will also be affected by future choices that the Government makes about regulatory and other policies that are currently determined at the European level. These could move in either a growth-enhancing or a growth-impeding direction.

In the near term, as the negotiations get under way, we assume that GDP growth will continue to slow into next year as uncertainty leads firms to delay investment and as consumers are squeezed by higher import prices, thanks to the fall in the pound. But we do not assume that firms shed jobs more aggressively or that consumers increase precautionary saving, both of which are downside risks if the path to Brexit is bumpy
 
Where are these people going to come from, given that we're also being told there's record employment?
The dole

You still believe govt figures? Zero unemployed?

If a company in nl wants to hire a brit under current circumstances, it has to first prove it has advertised the position in holland and prove there were no suitable applicants.

Whats the procedure in uk?
 
The dole

You still believe govt figures? Zero unemployed?

If a company in nl wants to hire a brit under current circumstances, it has to first prove it has advertised the position in holland and prove there were no suitable applicants.

Whats the procedure in uk?

I don't know, I live in France.
 
So if your company wants to employ a uk citizen they can currently disregard french people for the position?

In the private sector, there is no discrimination between french citizens and EU citizens. But a non-EU citizen coming directly from outside the EU will need to follow an "introduction" process in which the company asks for the permission to hire, the ones already living in the EU just need a french resident permit.
 


Decent sign that it may have legs as an attack.
 
"Britain Thinks" focus group......needs to re-group and then think whether or not we're still in the EU. Might want to re-tweet if the answer is "yes".
You realise that focus groups are made up of ordinary members of the public?
 
The dole

You still believe govt figures? Zero unemployed?

If a company in nl wants to hire a brit under current circumstances, it has to first prove it has advertised the position in holland and prove there were no suitable applicants.

Whats the procedure in uk?
Closet tory spotted.:D

To your question. For skilled employment from eu, there is no process.
For unskilled employment, the companies either advertise in bulgaria/poland or in london using bulgarian/polish.
 
So...whoever they are they should know that we're still paying into the EU coffers.
Your side should probably try harder at explaining that to them. Though I'd also be wary of saying it'll happen when we finally do leave, given that...we know it won't.
 
Closet tory spotted.:D

To your question. For skilled employment from eu, there is no process.
For unskilled employment, the companies either advertise in bulgaria/poland or in london using bulgarian/polish.

Wow

So fom differs everywhere and yet it it is sold as "go where you like, when you like".

Farcical
 
Yeah, farcical (says the English guy living in Holland)..
Yeah and I had to do lots of things to get here, apparently you can just turn up in the uk willy nilly, now I see clearly why they want to stop it all and so must you see it.
 
Yeah and I had to do lots of things to get here, apparently you can just turn up in the uk willy nilly, now I see clearly why they want to stop it all and so must you see it.

Turn up willy nilly? Do we have any actual evidence that getting into the UK is any easier than France, Germany, Spain etc?
 
Yeah and I had to do lots of things to get here, apparently you can just turn up in the uk willy nilly, now I see clearly why they want to stop it all and so must you see it.

So... stopping immigration has nothing to do with the EU? Is that what you're saying?
 
Turn up willy nilly? Do we have any actual evidence that getting into the UK is any easier than France, Germany, Spain etc?

Think @JPRouve detailed some protectionist policies that the French employ earlier in the thread.

Germany are going to be introducing more hard line measures on benefits for immigrants which has been in the news.

This also happened recently

https://www.rt.com/news/365600-germany-wall-refugees-migrants/

Aren't people emigrating from Spain for work rather than to it in recent times?
 
this thread

Ah...

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So explain to me why there isn't a rigid rule set for fom across Europe that all must adhere to? After all you are championing how amazing it is
 
So explain to me why there isn't a rigid rule set for fom across Europe that all must adhere to? After all you are championing how amazing it is

Because the principles of the EU are a basic set of core rules which the sovereign nation states can then build upon to fit their own needs. Various UK governments however have just found it easier domestically to pretend that they it's all being forced upon them, rather than as a result of their own decisions.