It is an excuse. Why do you think that only small countries are tax havens? Its because its profitable for them not for the big guys
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It is an excuse. Why do you think that only small countries are tax havens? Its because its profitable for them not for the big guys
Further reforms? That suggests that some have already happenedAlmost as if that 500 million is being listened to in equal measure, each with their own views and voices being heard...this being something the UK will no longer have now we're on the outside if the EU try to push further reforms that don't suit us.
The moral issue went out of the window the moment May started threatening
So you'll be ok if the uk makes it work?
I dont think any big country can especially a country who relies so much on its financial services reputation
Well they are not, their mp's might be listened to but as schulz said, maybe we need to start listening to the people. You cant polish a turdAlmost as if that 500 million is being listened to in equal measure, each with their own views and voices being heard...this being something the UK will no longer have now we're on the outside if the EU try to push further reforms that don't suit us.
But you'll be ok if they do?
The EU have largely been stubborn on reform and it's a major fault but as we see the rise of the far-right in Europe and the global tensions that are around, they may be forced to reform at one point. Top figures may not wish to do so at the moment but it strikes me as an inevitability at one point in a fast-changing world.
Of course though, we've signed off any hopes of having a significant voices in those reforms...and also depleted the European Parliament of a significant bloc of Eurosceptic MEP's.
I am from an island just like you, just smaller and had spent most of its history waaay poorer to you. You do what you need to survive.
Ps surviving means not shooting at the balls with a magnum
Good thing then that Cadbury make more than one chocolate bar
But you'd be ok with it, if it became a successful tax haven?
Not everyone likes the same brand
I answered to you
It's as if the U.K. hasn't been an integral part of the EU with full voting rights and a veto this whole time..
You did not
It's not really about tax havens. The UK is threatening to drastically lower its level of corporation tax, making it more attractive to inward investment. This has the effect of diverting investment from Europe to Britain, at the cost of reducing revenues to the British Exchequer. At the moment about 9% of tax receipts in Britain come from corporation tax, so halving corporate taxes would leave a 4.5% hole in British tax revenues.
You realize the type of conversation you are stuck in?
Who will foot the remaining bill? What happens if lets say other eu countries do the same?
They cant cos they're tied by eu regs
If the Uk starts a race to the bottom there's no reason the EU can't change those regs to remain competitive. Shitty outcome for everyone, of course. More money to the corporations. Less for the man on the street. Really stuck it to those elites, didn't you?
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Yanited fans eh, completely missing the main point as usual.
And how will the government fund the NHS and initiatives being diverted from Brussels to the UK with less tax coming in?
Says the Arsenal fan by quoting another Arsenal fan
.And it's a good point, the EPL is about to get much weaker if nothing is done to preserve the pool of talent to European players, who are top players.
Who cares, apparently, it's the immigration that one needs to "fix" at all cost...
Not to mention the stupendous exit bill they'll be presented with to cover Britain's current joint liabilities.
Says the Arsenal fan by quoting another Arsenal fan
And it's a good point, the EPL is about to get much weaker if nothing is done to preserve the pool of talent to European players, who are top players.
The UK are leaving the EU not the UEFA.
Says the Arsenal fan by quoting another Arsenal fan
And it's a good point, the EPL is about to get much weaker if nothing is done to preserve the pool of talent to European players, who are top players.
I was joking about it being the key issue, obviously I'm bothered about the economy. They'll probably fix it for rich wealthy football teams to have freedom of movement.
If the EU asks nicely and we might consider it.
Yes but UEFA only controls the aspect of the rules regarding the competition and the eligibility of the players.
The UK will need to issue work permits now for all EU players who before did not need it to come and play.
That's a lot of paperwork and cost for clubs.
At least that's how I interpret the situation.
If we look at the work permit requirements for football players, it is:
What are the criteria which will be used?
Until 2015, football players needed to have played in at least 75% of their country’s senior international matches over the previous two years to play in the UK. Eligibility for a GBE now depends on a national team’s FIFA ranking, as follows:
Official FIFA Ranking Required % of international matches in past 2 yrs
FIFA 1-10 30% and above
FIFA 11-20 45% and above
FIFA 21-30 60% and above
FIFA 31-50 75% and above
In the case of players aged 21 or under at the time of application, the period is reduced to one year. The aim is to make it easier for young, outstanding talent to grow their game in the UK.
http://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/footballer-work-permits/
So we can only buy outstanding talents who have played international games, and not just some raw talent in EU countries.
Pogba would not be an United player in this case, for example.
We benefit from the EU free movements of workers.
Unless the UK issue a rule to wave the work permits for EU players but hell, given the tone of the Brexit speech this week, it seems highly unlikely that Theresa May listens to any of the interests for corporations, should they be financial (City) or sports related (EPL).
If she doesn't help the clubs out she risks one of the UK's biggest assests becoming a lot less attractive and nearly worthless.
Race to the bottom? Lux has one of the finest standards of living. Junck has blocked the eu trying to counter his tax breaks and as a fan of the eu i guess you support him? But you dont think uk should go the same way, why not? the eu is the only race to the bottom, mass unemployment, almost no growth. While i hate the idea of tax havens, if its to the detriment of the eu and its support then good.
She was ready to give up on the 9 EU passports for the financial industry in the City, which is also a very powerful industry.
As a proof, you see that the City lobby has now given up on the passports concept and focuses on the regulatory equivalence concepts, that they try to make it binding in order to be able to prove some sort of stability in the situation in regards to foreign banks and investors.
What makes you think that seeing one of the UK's biggest assets becoming a lot less attractive and nearly worthless is of importance now for Theresa May, given the above?
Her speech has made it clear that Theresa May won't give any leverage to EU negotiators.
That means that she's ready to sacrifice everything, financial passports or EPL, as long as the question on the immigration is tackled "properly".
She's basically saying that no deal is better than a bad deal, from a UK standpoint.
The EU will probably adopt a similar stance.
Murdoch will tell her what to do, don't you worry.
Why Murdoch?
Unless that's a private joke...
The press will tell her what to do, she intends to stay in power and she needs to be popular.
Again with the not getting people's points. I'm talking specifically about the race to the lowest corporate tax rates. Nothing else. An issue that your hero in the tartan pant suit has deliberately and provocatively put on the table and will be music to the ears of the corporates and 1%ers.
That's what happens when people think they're fecking over The Man by voting for a Tory/UKIP/Murdoch initiative. Well done all. Really thought this through.
I think the interprets the popularity based on the referendum only.
She also interprets the results of the referendum as the will of citizens to focus only and primarily on immigration.
The City and the EPL are probably starting to realise that they are not in her mind when negotiating with the EU.
If Theresa May was looking at the press, she would propose a second referendum just to be certain that the UK citizens are ready to take the plunge.
Since she does not, I can only assume she doesn't want to confirm in any ways.
Note that it's not necessarily a reproach, just an assessment.
You have no choice on this issue. At all.