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Southern countries are way more corrupt than the northern countries and avoiding paying taxes are normal and expected. Portugal for example was a rich country in the 1500's until our king married a dirty bitch from Spain and she would married him only if we persecuted the Jews...and the money walk away from Portugal and settled in Netherlands and other countries.

Reminds me of Nigel Farage
 
The Nissan Qashqai and Duke have been impressive sellers. I also see a lot of Kia cars which seem to be inspired by German models. I do think Asian cars can take a bit of the German market in the coming years. They're starting to look the part now.

Also the talk of German cars being luxury, some are but in working class to middle class areas often have Audi A3 or VW or BMW. It's quite amazing how many ordinary semidetached homes have a recent German car of some sort compared to 80s/90s thanks to finance and popular styling. Perhaps it's just South Manchester but I'd welcome a change to seeing German cars dominate.
 
Poor negotiation and PR from the Tories and their Tory press regarding Gibraltar. All they have to say is Gibraltar will stay British so long as it's people wish it, which they did as recently as 2002, when 98% of them voted so. Simple as that, no need for threats or allusions.

Also, strategically important or not, if Gibraltarians did want another vote, and did vote out, then out they would go. I would cite Scotland, maybe a tad more strategically important to Britain, as an example. If Scotland had voted out in their referendum then they would be out, and who knows, maybe they yet will.
 
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VW offered to pay $14.7 billion to USA VW owners after the emissions fraud...The number is likely to be closer to $20 billion when the US courts finally sign off on it.

VW is arguing that similar compensations for EU residents who bought VWs aren't necessary. And the EU isn't exactly fighting against them.

But the software was designed to give readings in line with us levels that entitled it to subsidies in the usa... That's what the compo was for and to the best of my knowledge no subsidies or similar were gained in Europe via said software...

So I'd say vw have a bloody strong case there
 
They sell more in Europe (as a whole) than the uk... so brexit may not be that helpful
USA will probably outperform uk this year... China may do as well http://media.jaguarlandrover.com/ne...guar-land-rover-achieve-strong-global-results

Not so sure. Even if GB might lose the #1 spot for them, the nature of their products means they aren't that vulnerable to price increases. People buying Jaguars and Land Rovers don't really care, they have the money and they will have it in the future as well.
It might be bad for them if they were about to lose market share in the company car segment (which tends to be a lot more sensitive to even small changes in prices and leasing rates), but they are non-existent there anyway due to their terrible resale value. They will be fine.
 
Haven't heard about that, it's not active yet though.
Needed to happen of course, the XE will never reach the needed margin if its still produced in GB.

They did make noises about leaving the UK in the event of a hard Brexit although I think they were looking to get their balls tickled a bit by the government like Nissan did.
 
The diesel in the cars might be from the North Sea, certainly not from Germany or France.

Only 2.9% of refined petroleum and 2.7% of crude imported by France comes from the UK. Biggest suppliers are USA and Russia both at 14% for refined . For crude Saudi 19%, Kazakhstan and Nigeria both at 13%
 
Uhm...that might as well be in Suhaeli or me, sorry :nervous: Why do you post it, just a TL;DR (or rather, can't read :wenger:).

I was trying to get the article in English or German but it won't let me!!
In summary though they start a big recruitment drive at the end of 2017 and cars should start rolling off the production line by the end of 2018 (not this year as I said before) employing 2800 people with a yearly capacity of 150000 vehicles in a factory of 300000m2 using very modern technology
 
I was trying to get the article in English or German but it won't let me!!
In summary though they start a big recruitment drive at the end of 2017 and cars should start rolling off the production line by the end of 2018 (not this year as I said before) employing 2800 people with a yearly capacity of 150000 vehicles in a factory of 300000m2 using very modern technology

Ah, yeah, red that as well. Well, as I said, they need it for the XE.
 
I accept currencies go up and down yes, like when the pound was 1.05 dollars. It came back up. So feckin what?

It came back up because the US decided to devalue their currency as it's economy was too strong and exports were suffering. What we have now is not a controlled devaluation, it's because of Brexit. As I said to Chorley consequences are already happening. I suggest you don't get involved into other peoples conversations and go off on a completely different irrelevant tangent.
 
It came back up because the US decided to devalue their currency as it's economy was too strong and exports were suffering. What we have now is not a controlled devaluation, it's because of Brexit. As I said to Chorley consequences are already happening. I suggest you don't get involved into other peoples conversations and go off on a completely different irrelevant tangent.
What the feck,.were you around when it was 1.05?

I suggest you stop patronising people and confirming my opinion of the average remainer. Tw@
 
If they try and spend £500m to change the colour of passports, who's up for some war?
 
What the feck???? Do you honestly believe this shit you're spouting? You've managed to write down so many things which are either distorting the truth or just plain factually incorrect, that I don't know where to start.. I'm flabbergasted! There's nothing more difficult than arguing with a fool!!



Pick one point and let's see.
 
What the feck,.were you around when it was 1.05?

I suggest you stop patronising people and confirming my opinion of the average remainer. Tw@

Yeah I was 2 and in the US. You sound like a petulant child throwing insults around so doesn't seem like you were.

I stand by what I said because you were simply making irrelevant points as you have done all over this thread. You get involved just for the sake of being involved and add nothing to the conversation.
 
Yeah I was 2 and in the US. You sound like a petulant child throwing insults around so doesn't seem like you were.

I stand by what I said because you were simply making irrelevant points as you have done all over this thread. You get involved just for the sake of being involved and add nothing to the conversation.
Well i was 20 at the time and remember it well. You on the other hand had amazing insight into currency rates for a 2 year old.
 
Well i was 20 at the time and remember it well. You on the other hand had amazing insight into currency rates for a 2 year old.

So you're a 52 year old manchild who aspires to go back to the good old days of Maggie T where racism, sexism and peadophilia among other things were ok as long as they were covered up nice and tight and swept under the carpet and none of those pesky 4N Poles were stealing your job all the while your 20 tea breaks and strike days off work were protected by your union. Got it.
 
So you're a 52 year old manchild who aspires to go back to the good old days of Maggie T where racism, sexism and peadophilia among other things were ok as long as they were covered up nice and tight and swept under the carpet and none of those pesky 4N Poles were stealing your job all the while your 20 tea breaks and strike days off work were protected by your union. Got it.

I remember Stanley when he was a Thatcherite trade union priest. We all were in those days.
 
Not so sure. Even if GB might lose the #1 spot for them, the nature of their products means they aren't that vulnerable to price increases. People buying Jaguars and Land Rovers don't really care, they have the money and they will have it in the future as well.
It might be bad for them if they were about to lose market share in the company car segment (which tends to be a lot more sensitive to even small changes in prices and leasing rates), but they are non-existent there anyway due to their terrible resale value. They will be fine.

Is that actually still the case with the newer XE and XF models? Our company has hundreds of leased XE's and XF's. Okay there are just as many leased Mercedes but I see an overwhelming number of Jags in our car parks.
 
And now Spain say they will not block a Scottish application to the EU. Who'd have guessed.
Brexiteers are about to get a hard dose of reality. I'd be smug if it didn't affect me.
 
Is that actually still the case with the newer XE and XF models? Our company has hundreds of leased XE's and XF's. Okay there are just as many leased Mercedes but I see an overwhelming number of Jags in our car parks.

I assume you live in Britiain? Different there of course, but we were speaking about the effects on their exports. On the continent, it's impossible to get a Jaguar pretty much, to get one to have to give up pretty much 15k € in list price. So to say, you can have a 55k Mercedes or a 40k Jaguar.

Edit: just checked: as of now, the resale value of an XE drops nearly 4 times as fast as for an comparable Audi A4. No wonder no company gives you one.
 
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'Bloody scaremongering Remoaners suggesting that Brexit could lead to war, how hysterical of them. feck YOU SPAIN HOW ABOUT SOME GOOD OLD FASHIONED GUNBOAT DIPLOMACY.'

Good old Leave hypocrisy.
 
Woo hoo, lets go to war with Spain!

I have never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life.

And still, no one has come out with 1 single tangible benefit of leaving Europe, nothing at all that actually makes a difference for the better.
 
And still, no one has come out with 1 single tangible benefit of leaving Europe, nothing at all that actually makes a difference for the better.

Oh I don't know, it's proven an invaluable way of identifying the people in society who it would be a good idea to avoid.