I wouldn't be surprised.... Get this deal in place... Let may carry the blame ... Boot her out and install mogg or Johnson as leader then move to a Canada style deal
Brexited | the worst threads live the longest
- Thread starter Silva
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Same. All bark and no bite.
I think the woll has been pulled over people's eyes.
Does Canada have a land border with the EU? I think that is the vital difference.
One day it will.
Of course they will. What's been lost in discourse is that negotiations over future trade have yet to begin. That is where the real issues lie.
This thread has another couple of years to run...
at least - 2 years actually sounds pretty optimistic to me to negotiate a comprehensive trade dealThis thread has another couple of years to run...
i think canada took 7 years?
and I think it took Russia 18 years to agree its WTO schedule - so yeah i suspect there are at least s few more years to go - even if we crashed out with No deal on 29th Marh Im pretty sure talks would start almost straight away about a new deal so staying in (if A50 eve allows that) will probably be the only way we dont have the protracted talks
I agree that they will vote for it but the reason they are so scared is, the withdrawal agreement forms a basis for the future relationship. The government will deny this but everyone knows it will.
Of course it will. The ‘backstop’ is basically attractive enough to the EU as a permanent situation that they don’t have much incentive to give concessions on a bespoke free trade agreement.
The government has given a masterclass in terrible negotiating strategy. It began with triggering article 50 prematurely, which they just gave up without laying out the structure of the withdrawal negotiation first. The UK had huge power to be distributive and obstructive while still within the EU to push for what it wanted. As soon as they triggered Article 50, the EU had the upper hand. I mean, the UK could have just kept vetoing the EU budget until it won concessions.
Last edited:
I think the EU have categoricaly said that a Canada ++ style arrangement would remain on the table in the transition period though
they may vote it down anyway being confident enough that defeating the bill would force May out and a eurosceptic would win the conservative leadership - which seems very likely - there is of course though a small risk that they defeat May and rather than face a vote of confidence in the house she rolls the dice and calls a general election or 2nd referendum (uniikley I think)
but the risk free option is let her get the deal through then moan about it and oust her in the new year and get JRM, Boris or Davis in charge to drive the bus (with a 350m a week logo on the side) straight off the cliff
This thread has another couple of years to run...
If this deal goes through there should be a new BINO thread which will actually last forever or until the UK rejoins.
Do you think the Canada ++ or whatever shit it's called can pass through parliament?
Im not sure what can / cant to be honest - but I think if it was proposed by a conservative leader then you would probably get the vast majority of the conservatives vote for it - perhaps the odd one like ken clarke who wouldnt
DUP - Im genuinely not sure but they seem to be ver close to the ERG who propose such a deal so i guess there is a reasonable chance they would get on board
so probably it could as there would be a few labour leave people who i think would back it as well
Ahh Jesus, this whole farce is quite fecking funny 
.
Possibly the longest that a really particularly stupid idea has ever ran for.
Is it just pigshit ignorance and americanesque bleating on about "MUH SOVREIGNTY" that doesn't have this dead in the water yet?
.Possibly the longest that a really particularly stupid idea has ever ran for.
Is it just pigshit ignorance and americanesque bleating on about "MUH SOVREIGNTY" that doesn't have this dead in the water yet?
Last edited:
Look at this plonker.
That would be a FTA which no-one will get a vote on and would be negotiated after the UK have left, ie negotiations would start next April at the earliest. The UK having already left the EU.
You really think St Jez wants to run Brexit?
Good luck with that reference.
Oldies know.
I know.
You better not call me old, kiddo.
The theme tune on the french version was absolute pants.
Current polling suggests there'd be a somewhat decent chance of us remaining.
Certain factors would work for each side in any hypothetical referendum. Leave would benefit from the argument that they won before, and that we supposedly just need to get on with it...in that sense Remain would have to fight hard to ensure they're not being perceived as anti-democratic or patronising to those who have different opinions from them.
At the same time though I do think there's a greater liking of the EU among those who want to Remain though because they've actually had to consider what the alternative is, and in that sense there'd perhaps be a more positive campaign as opposed to the defensive one Cameron and co mounted. I reckon the current uncertainty across the water would probably make the Northern Irish warier of leaving, and pure demographic shifts would benefit Remain too...old people skew more anti-EU than the young and even two or three years will have seen a lot of people who voted Leave pass away.
Again, all hypothetical's though.
"Daaa-llas, ton univers impitoyaa-able!"
For the non french speaker: "Dallas, your ruthless universe."
The Wording of the Question Would Probably be key to the result I think
So they (Mogg and his crew) are going to boot May out then? Seems that way from latest on Twitter.
Links?
Jrm hasn't posted since before pmq's
Then again, given what UK politics has been like in the last two years, expect nothing of the sort.
I think she will Get 50% of MP's and survive and then I think it's a year till They can challenge again
Brexit Studies will be an entire university course in the future.
How would this possibly play out with the timeline to get a ‘deal’ done?!
Whatever deal eventually gets put to the House of Commons will probably be voted through by the Tories. Not because they think it’s a good deal for the country, just to keep themselves in power. They know that voting down their own party's deal would fasttrack Corbyn into Number 10.
Brexiteers are crybabies. Lesson over.
Cabinet over - statement soon?
I always preferred Dynasty tbh.