Yup, it's even clearer when you look at what Heiko Mass says, he said that delaying Brexit would only make sense if there is an actual chance to reach an agreement which at this point in time is unlikely, he added that he doesn't believe that there is actual room for negotiation anyway.
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Yup, it's even clearer when you look at what Heiko Mass says, he said that delaying Brexit would only make sense if there is an actual chance to reach an agreement which at this point in time is unlikely, he added that he doesn't believe that there is actual room for negotiation anyway.
Someone like Grieve who wouldn't particular care about the consequences and once a second referendum is looking tricky as he's on that track already.
Also need the other options laid out clearly first regarding any renegotiation that it will just being remaining with the 4 freedoms without a vote.
Didn't get there yet.
Brexit committee has voted for a statement demanding indicative votes to take place in the commons.
If only May had some kind of cross-party panel she could reach out to.....oh wait
If only May had some kind of cross-party panel she could reach out to.....oh wait
I dunno. If people won’t vote for Corbyn, then Labour must ditch him for someone they will vote for. At some point if labour want to govern they have to act like it.
That's not the view I'm seeing in this part of the EU...
There was a bit of worry and what if when the vote first happened, but since then the Euro hasn't crashed, any talk of others leaving has died down and life has pretty much carried on as normal for the rest of Europe. They'd certainly like us to stay, but they aren't going to bend over backwards to help us do it. The EU don't need us the way we like to think they do.
So. I am not bothered.
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear.
I voted to remain.
The majority vote was to leave.
I accept the majority vote and see no reason for a second referendum.
Hope that is clear.
The EU weren’t going to make it easy - why should they - but we fecked this up by ourselves. We played a bad hand poorly.
You have heard D Tusk latest comment.
Of course they want us to remain.
Why do you think they are making it so difficult for Mrs May to get an improved Withdrawal Bill.
Because they have no incentive to. And we aren’t offering any.
The backstop was a result of the red lines.
Yes, of course they'd like us to remain. But they don't need us to so they wont capitulate to us on these negotiations. We're the desperate ones, not them.
What is the improved withdrawal bill?
that glare from Glove.
Indeed
So it doesn't bother you that the case for Leave was built on lies? That our whole country has been plunged into chaos due to the slenderest of margins?
Tell you what mate, I'm fecking angry.
Pob had his moment there. Lots of cheers and back slapping from the tories.
She's definitely surviving this. Complete waste of time from Corbyn.
MPs reject no confidence motion
Edit: Wait no I got confused
19 vote margin in the vote of confidence - the 10 grubby DUP votes bought it for them.
Interesting to see a parliament give a vote of confidence to a PM it has no confidence in.
Interesting to see a parliament give a vote of confidence to a PM it has no confidence in.
Straight party lines by the looks.
No you were right, it was close. If the DUP, who have no confidence in her or her deal but like her money, had voted the other way, she would have lost by 1.
Bribery in a public office?
Corbyn should resign.
There are one billion reasons why the DUP continue to back her.
And you are quite right to be so.
I am as well but please don't be angry with me. I am a very proud English man and I detest what is happening which makes our country look rather stupid.
You must know that we were lied to by both sides.
Yes it was a relatively slender margin but it was a margin nonetheless.
Tell you why I am not in favour of a second referendum.
If the result is the same as I suspect then what was the point.
If it is to remain but by a tiny margin, this country would be even more divided.
The pressure is on our leaders to come up with a solution to this mess. A second referendum would allow them to abdicate their responsibilities.
Are you serious?
19. Damn.
He lost the vote because the unholy alliance of the Tories and DUP fear him and are trying to deny the people a vote. That's more than enough reason to say.
The Prime Minister who can't lead and has to buy a confidence vote is the one who should go. If Corbyn was as unelectable as Murdoch tells you, we'd have been going to general election at 8 last night.
Yeah disgraceful how he couldn't get Tories to vote against their own leader. I mean anyone could achieve that
Would you agree then that the "we want a general election" line now has to go?
She is still as stubborn as ever.
With 100 dossiers, and 1000 powerpoints, Marcelo Bielsa would have solved Brexit all by himself.......in a week
Just wait. Corbyn can call another no confidence vote. Was always losing this one.
If May goes full Brino, and tries to add permanent single market, customs union and 4 freedoms to her deal she'll lose support of ERG.
Probably quite a few ways she can lose Tory MPs support. Just wait to see plan B.
Then she's toast.
If May goes full Brino, and tries to add permanent single market, customs union and 4 freedoms to her deal she'll lose support of ERG.
Probably quite a few ways she can lose Tory MPs support. Just wait to see plan B.
Then she's toast.
So. Corbyn should resign eh.
But it is perfectly acceptable for all those Conservative MPs who only a few weeks ago signed a letter of no confidence in Mrs May, were voting to support Mrs May in the no confidence vote.
Yes, what is the improved withdrawal deal?
fecking DUP.
The Withdrawal Bill that was thrown out last night.
This makes no sense, you said that they are making it difficult for May to get an improved withdrawal deal and now are pointing to the deal that has been offered from the beginning.