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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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In France candidates have to present themselves between 21st April and 2nd May and the elections are on 26th May.

If the Uk did hold elections and MEP's were elected, I've no idea what happens next - would they sit for the full five years meaning the UK can't leave until 2024?
Makes no sense just to sit for possibly a few months.
But if we are still a member whilst we figure out we are doing and thus paying our dues I think they would probably keep their place... Afterall... No taxation without representation.... Oh how the tables have turned
 
But if we are still a member whilst we figure out we are doing and thus paying our dues I think they would probably keep their place... Afterall... No taxation without representation.... Oh how the tables have turned

The other complication is that if the UK leave the number of overall seats reduce but part of the UK's seats are to be redistributed amongst the other member states, for example France gain an extra 5 seats/MEPs. There is very little time left.
 
The other complication is that if the UK leave the number of overall seats reduce but part of the UK's seats are to be redistributed amongst the other member states, for example France gain an extra 5 seats/MEPs. There is very little time left.
Indeed... I could see the EU offering something like UK skips the EU elections but if we choose to stay we participate in the next one... In the meantime I dunno I think we only have around 70 mep's perhaps split that on a pr basis between the Westminster vote and let UK MP's go to vote?
I mean imagine we have EU elections in the current climate... I wouldn't be surprised if Tommy Robinson got elected
 
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/22/no-deal-brexit-panic-grips-major-uk-firms


Companies press Brexit panic button in further blow to Theresa May
P&O opts for Cypriot flag, Sony confirms HQ move and Pets at Home stockpiles cat food

The scale of no-deal panic gripping major companies has been thrown into sharp focus by a series of damage-limitation announcements, as corporate Britain signalled it is running out of patience with Westminster gridlock.

Sir James Dyson, the Brexit-backing billionaire, dealt a further blow to the government by revealing he is shifting his company headquarters to Singapore in a move that drew sharp criticism.

Dyson’s decision to move his HQ out of the UK came on a day in which a series of high-profile names revealed measures to mitigate the impact of a disorderly departure from the EU:

• P&O announced that its entire fleet of cross-Channel ferries, will be re-registered under the Cypriot flag, as the 182-year-old British maritime operator activated its Brexit plans.

Sony confirmed it is moving its European headquarters from London to Amsterdam.


• The chief executive of luxury carmaker Bentley said the company was stockpiling parts and described Brexit as a “killer” threatening his firm’s profitability.

• Retailers Dixons Carphone and Pets at Home announced plans to shore up supplies in the event of chaos at British ports.

So much winning.
 
Indeed... I could see the EU offering something like UK skips the EU elections but if we choose to stay we participate in the next one... In the meantime I dunno I think we only have around 70 mep's perhaps split that on a pr basis between the Westminster vote and let UK MP's go to vote?
I mean imagine we have EU elections in the current climate... I wouldn't be surprised if Tommy Robinson got elected

Farage is committed to participate in the next mep elections.. I guess that is the UK's strongest threat to a deal yet
 
I shop at Sainsbury's. The shelves are often empty because the staff can't be bothered to fill them.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jan/22/no-deal-brexit-panic-grips-major-uk-firms


Companies press Brexit panic button in further blow to Theresa May
P&O opts for Cypriot flag, Sony confirms HQ move and Pets at Home stockpiles cat food

The scale of no-deal panic gripping major companies has been thrown into sharp focus by a series of damage-limitation announcements, as corporate Britain signalled it is running out of patience with Westminster gridlock.

Sir James Dyson, the Brexit-backing billionaire, dealt a further blow to the government by revealing he is shifting his company headquarters to Singapore in a move that drew sharp criticism.

Dyson’s decision to move his HQ out of the UK came on a day in which a series of high-profile names revealed measures to mitigate the impact of a disorderly departure from the EU:

• P&O announced that its entire fleet of cross-Channel ferries, will be re-registered under the Cypriot flag, as the 182-year-old British maritime operator activated its Brexit plans.

Sony confirmed it is moving its European headquarters from London to Amsterdam.


• The chief executive of luxury carmaker Bentley said the company was stockpiling parts and described Brexit as a “killer” threatening his firm’s profitability.

• Retailers Dixons Carphone and Pets at Home announced plans to shore up supplies in the event of chaos at British ports.

So much winning.

Cat food? They'll be the first things on the menu post Brexit.
 
How do I get off this train? Look at this thread.

"There is no doubt that leaving with a deal and minimising disruption both to the UK and our EU trading partners is in our best interest," the international development secretary said.

Basically saying its fine to ruin the country and people's livelihoods than find alternative options. Electorates are human beings and are allowed to make mistakes. The right and decent thing to do is to rectify these mistakes in the best way possible.

What's more mind-numbing is this from a development secretary.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...british-fishermen-square-up-to-no-deal-brexit
Bertie Armstrong, the chief executive of the industry’s largest body, the Scottish Fisherman’s Federation, cautions some may be suffering “Millennium bug-itis” over Brexit. “Most countries are not in the EU and doing perfectly well.”

This stuff pisses me off. They genuinely don't understand that the millenium bug wasn't a false scare, it was a genuine threat that only passed by without chaos because a huge number of very skilled people spent vast amounts of time and money making sure critical systems were protected. So because the storm passed without disaster, now its just treated as a joke.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...british-fishermen-square-up-to-no-deal-brexit


This stuff pisses me off. They genuinely don't understand that the millenium bug wasn't a false scare, it was a genuine threat that only passed by without chaos because a huge number of very skilled people spent vast amounts of time and money making sure critical systems were protected. So because the storm passed without disaster, now its just treated as a joke.

Most countries have deals too.
 
How do I get off this train? Look at this thread.


His interview this morning was just a preplanned attack peice on parliament and none of it ringed any truth.

He said it'd be a huge constitutional change for parliament to raise legislation and scrutinise it but they already can do exactly that, all legislation does not come form the government.

All designed to paint any action by parliament actually doing it's job as some great revolt. It's dangerous and they've clearly not learned their lesson on what might happen stoking these flames
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...british-fishermen-square-up-to-no-deal-brexit


This stuff pisses me off. They genuinely don't understand that the millenium bug wasn't a false scare, it was a genuine threat that only passed by without chaos because a huge number of very skilled people spent vast amounts of time and money making sure critical systems were protected. So because the storm passed without disaster, now its just treated as a joke.

Even more stupid is the old Brexit favourite, “Most countries are not in the EU and doing perfectly well.”

What may have escaped their notice, we know it escaped Raab's notice, that most countries are not an island situated just off the coast of mainland Europe.
Maybe they are planning to up sticks and move off the coast of the USA or to the Far East.
 
Farage is committed to participate in the next mep elections.. I guess that is the UK's strongest threat to a deal yet

Quite right...the EU fears this almost as much as a no deal scenario. Personally cannot see them extending Art 50 by any time scale that might allow for our continuing membership and to get caught up in the next MEP elections. The results of such elections may well make the divisions in the EU Parliament thereafter, such that it will make the Trump v Democrats battles in the USA look positively sane!

Suspect that if anything happens to Art 50 it will be it that it will run its course to a no deal ending, or it will get pulled completely and we stay in the EU.
 
Basically saying its fine to ruin the country and people's livelihoods than find alternative options. Electorates are human beings and are allowed to make mistakes. The right and decent thing to do is to rectify these mistakes in the best way possible.

What's more mind-numbing is this from a development secretary.
Except it doesn't really feel like the electorate thinks they've made a mistake, given the number of people who seem absolutely fine with leaving with no deal.
 


This is a spectacular mess.


It is a shambles.

No one really has a clue what would happen with no deal as it depends on EU / UK government actions. Ignoring all the scaremongering, it's still not a risk any sane government should be taking with the lively-hoods of the 60m odd people in the country.

Hopefully the grieve copper no deal amendment will pass and Parliament will take control of the process as the clock runs down. I still think we should just withdraw article 50, parliament should explain that the withdrawal agreement was not acceptable neither is no deal so we don't have any other choice. Then we should have a GE.

Definitely do not want another referendum on the back of May's total failure in the last two years. Going to be incredibly bitter and the result would never be accepted anyway making it pointless.

Debate on the subject can continue but the process and implementation of it needs to be killed off for the foreseeable.
 
It is a shambles.

No one really has a clue what would happen with no deal as it depends on EU / UK government actions. Ignoring all the scaremongering, it's still not a risk any sane government should be taking with the lively-hoods of the 60m odd people in the country.

Hopefully the grieve copper no deal amendment will pass and Parliament will take control of the process as the clock runs down. I still think we should just withdraw article 50, parliament should explain that the withdrawal agreement was not acceptable neither is no deal so we don't have any other choice. Then we should have a GE.

Definitely do not want another referendum on the back of May's total failure in the last two years. Going to be incredibly bitter and the result would never be accepted anyway making it pointless.

Debate on the subject can continue but the process and implementation of it needs to be killed off for the foreseeable.
Definitely agree with you regarding another referendum. What if Remain wins by 52-48? That's not conclusive at all (and I think No Deal Brexit would get more votes than people might think).
 
Mogg now talking about closing down parlaiment in order to prevent elected MPs from passing amendments :wenger:

They're going to get someone killed because the far right types will take this shit on board.
 
Mogg now talking about closing down parlaiment in order to prevent elected MPs from passing amendments :wenger:

They're going to get someone killed because the far right types will take this shit on board.
This would be anti constitutional if you had a constitution right?
 
Mogg now talking about closing down parlaiment in order to prevent elected MPs from passing amendments :wenger:

They're going to get someone killed because the far right types will take this shit on board.

At this stage anyone with half a brain should realize he's a bit too invested in wanting a no deal Brexit to happen. Once you realize that you can disregard almost everything he says on the matter.
 
Mogg now talking about closing down parlaiment in order to prevent elected MPs from passing amendments :wenger:

They're going to get someone killed because the far right types will take this shit on board.

My guess is that he'd (and his clients) be losing a lot of money if such amendments were passed
 
Corbyn is having a nightmare in PMQ with his Custom Union.

He is simply not strong or clever or able enough to lead his own party let alone our country.

His close supporters may love him but that just proves that they are a party happy to be in opposition but just don't have the intellectual thought processes to be in power.
And that is not good.
 
He is simply not strong or clever or able enough to lead his own party let alone our country.

His close supporters may love him but that just proves that they are a party happy to be in opposition but just don't have the intellectual thought processes to be in power.
And that is not good.

To be fair mate i think the last few years have revealed the Tories to have the same problem.