yes I think so - its basically the original offer that we actually signed up to before we apparently played a blinder and changed it to the UK wide backstop... i have some respect for the patience of the Eu Negotiators - I think id have told the UK team to do one several months ago
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yes I think so - its basically the original offer that we actually signed up to before we apparently played a blinder and changed it to the UK wide backstop... i have some respect for the patience of the Eu Negotiators - I think id have told the UK team to do one several months ago
She must wake up every day regretting that snap election.
Surely one of the biggest og's by a governing party in political history. Well that and calling a referendum on the EU in the first place. 2 for 2.
Surely one of the biggest og's by a governing party in political history. Well that and calling a referendum on the EU in the first place. 2 for 2.
Excellent description my friend.
Was probably hoping JRM, Boris etc. don't know the difference
.Was probably hoping JRM, Boris etc. don't know the difference
To be honest, I'm literally wrong. He said UK but added that "the elements of the backstop must be maintained" basically NI aren't concerned by the unilateral withdrawal.
Probably, but the predicament she finds herself in now would've - to an extent - still been quite similar in regards to Brexit. She'd have had a bit more leeway but the EU would've still been just as unwilling to accept her party's unreasonable and unworkable demands.
Her time as PM has been bizarre though. Not sure there's been someone in charge who's had as little power as she has currently.
To be fair with the small majority she had before she would still probably face the same problems getting the erg votes
I wonder if she regrets running for the leadership after Cameron quit. She'd say no if you asked her but deep down I think she would have prefered to not be the face of Brexit.
Is it just me or is the title 'meaningful vote' a contradiction in terms as nothing at all has changed.
I think shes convinced herself she is playing a blinder and that at the last moment everybody will fall in line and vote for her deal and she will leave office as the PM who delivered brexit
I think shes deluded
Spot on with this John!
A general election would get skewed on Brexit lines and probably result in another 'hung' parliament. Don't think Tory party will actually split over Brexit after all there has been 'in-fighting' in that party over the EU for forty years, but they might just increase their overall number of seats but insufficient to solve the problems within that party, or carry the vote in Parliament. Labour however, is in danger of disintegrating and will likely split into segments; hard left, Lib/left leaning but mainly centrists and right of centre (old traditional labour in the north mainly). Ask not for whom the bell tolls!!
Most politicians will shy away from declaring the results of a race void, before the finish line is crossed, it just doesn't make sense to those who wish to continue a career in politics, so a second referendum enacted before the result of the first one has been actioned, is probably out of the question.
You could also add extending A50 as well, it solves/resolves nothing. It is not even sure the EU would agree to an extension certainly not for anything other than few weeks because it would land them in all sorts of trouble with the EU elections that are due this year, where it would seem Nigel Farage is itching to return with his anti-EU hordes determine to 'sack' the EU parliament once and for all.
So its back to where it all started, with either we Leave with no deal on the 29th of March , or we remain in the EU and withdraw Art 50 completely. It was a binary choice to begin with and guess what folks, it still is!
I don’t think she is given to self-reflection or big picture perspectives. She reminds me of one of those examples used to illustrate the potential dangers of AI, in which a machine is set the task of maximising production of post-it notes or paper clips and proceeds to do so at the expense of all other considerations, destroying the world in the process. May’s task is to deliver Brexit and that is that, just like her task at the Home Offuce was to reduce immigration numbers.
According to the Guardian, revoking art 50 would probably require a vote in parliament.
That's a brilliant way of describing our dear leader.She's such a procrastinator.
It's bollocks. He's convinced his words have some connection to reality.
What fecks me off about this brexiteer 'long game' attitude is I can't get my kids into a good secondary school today which frankly is what I care about, and yet these jokers are promising milk and honey in a decade plus - without any sense of how. Trading a known here and now (and the jobs that go with it) for a vague aspiration in a decade or two. Ridiculous.
The next time United play a league game the UK could have left the EU without a deal.
A CL draw against British opposition might be required.
A CL draw against British opposition might be required.
Wonder just how flimsy this 'deal' will be and how low and shameless they'll go in pretending it's worthwhile.
Open bus tour?
Open bus tour?
Blimey. That certainly focuses attention. But somehow I just cannot see a no deal exit or is that just wishful thinking on my part.
50/50 chance of drawing another PL team assuming Liverpool and City get through.
We have done well to get to this stage.
It sounds insane but who knows.
Theresa's off on her travels tonight to see Juncker.
Will come back tomorrow, it will be exactly the same as before and the circus starts again.
But even if she came back with something different it would still be rejected.
Of course you are correct but even if you play along his theory doesn't work in the short term. None of the emerging countries need the UK, whether they sell goods or services these markets want to access big markets.
When he said syncing he probably mis-spelt sinking.
Maybe, but it will be like Liverpool’s bus arriving at Anfield for that game against Chelsea in 2014.
The truly frightening thing for me is that a lot of people think this is the deal, as opposed to being a temporary 2-3 year sticking plaster while the real long-term deal is worked out. And even if that long-term deal can be agreed (highly unlikely without a change of government), we’ll forever be in a state of negotiation, like Switzerland currently is, with our large neighbour about whatever new rules they introduce from time to time. Next year is our year....
May heading to Strasbourg... Presumably to announce some revision to the deal?
Depends on whether there is any movement and if so, whether it is meaningful (excuse the pun).
I was actually hopeful that the legal guy Attorney General would come back from his meeting with the EU with something that says that the Backstop cannot be made permanent.
Anyway, we will soon find out.
According to BBC NI News the Irish government have been summoned to an emergency Brexit meeting tonight. Maybe something is afoot
The pound was trading pretty strongly earlier.
Extension looking likely?
Extension looking likely?
Maybe they've decided the easiest solution over the backstop is just to hand NI back
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/brexit/brexit-wortfuehrer-jacob-rees-mogg-im-gespraech-16083703-p3.html
An Interview with Rees-Mogg in the biggest German conservative (and free market) broadsheet. Maybe google gets you a workable translation.
He really wants to abolish with Brexit unilaterally all import tariffs. Together with his other policy's (no minimum wage, only high skilled immigration, low skilled immigration probably only when the home grown workbase is not sufficient, while deinvesting in education and community welfare) that will lead to an transformation of the UK unseen since Thatcher. Trapping the working classes in a vicious low wage cycle.
Money qoute:
"It is really exciting to leave with no-deal"
He sometimes comes around a very smart guy, but he is also an ideologue, that bends the facts when it suits him and he really has no consideration for a lot of people and hides it behind the "democratic will"
Good Luck if he ever gets into government, he supports Boris Johnson. I expect him to pander to BoJos vanity and he sees himself probably as an intellectual Dick Cheney to Johnsons George W. Bush....
An Interview with Rees-Mogg in the biggest German conservative (and free market) broadsheet. Maybe google gets you a workable translation.
He really wants to abolish with Brexit unilaterally all import tariffs. Together with his other policy's (no minimum wage, only high skilled immigration, low skilled immigration probably only when the home grown workbase is not sufficient, while deinvesting in education and community welfare) that will lead to an transformation of the UK unseen since Thatcher. Trapping the working classes in a vicious low wage cycle.
Money qoute:
"It is really exciting to leave with no-deal"
He sometimes comes around a very smart guy, but he is also an ideologue, that bends the facts when it suits him and he really has no consideration for a lot of people and hides it behind the "democratic will"
Good Luck if he ever gets into government, he supports Boris Johnson. I expect him to pander to BoJos vanity and he sees himself probably as an intellectual Dick Cheney to Johnsons George W. Bush....
Piecing all the political correspondents tweets together it sounds like May has flown over to make a unilateral statement she could have made here just to appear as a 'deal'.
I expect to be proven wrong but thats what it sounds like
I expect to be proven wrong but thats what it sounds like
Don't they have to file the motion in the commons before 10:30 tonight for it to be voted on tomorrow... Cutting it fine
Agreed. Other countries are of course interested in trade with the UK as it is a decent sized market but small compared to the UK. And other countries will also know how desperate the UK is for trade deals post Brexit so will bend us over a barrel in exchange for a quick deal IMO.
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It would but many people won't like it. So what? Everyone hates the current gridlocked shit show.
If we voted to leave again nobody could say they didn't know the stakes and then if there was a second question asking deal or no deal if we leave it would give parliament no real choice. You could even make it binding if that is possible.
"No deal" should never be an option.
I think it should. Pointless otherwise given the change in voter demographics since the original vote and more particularity that the purpose is to break the deadlock and not to simply keep Brexiteers or Leavers (who would prefer deal if we leave) happy.
Edit: As I want to minimise the damage I'd personally be happy if we took "no deal" off the table.
If Brexit has proven anything it is that you shouldnt offer the electorate an option that is so bad you dont want them to take it.
So this is what the Cox codpiece looks like