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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Buster15 said:
The likelihood of no solution to the Irish Backstop has been significantly reduced because the latest agreement places the ownership of the solution fairly and squarely on the EU as well as the UK.
We are told that the EU doesn't want the Backstop as don't the UK nor Ireland. That being the case a solution seems to me to be likely.
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This is all well and good if the ERG and the DUP were acting in good faith. They aren't though. If it wasn't the backstop then they would find something else to say no to.
 
What time will they vote? I just tuned in and there's loads of empty seats in the HoC.

Just wondering because this vote seems pretty important...
 
Shinjch said:
This is all well and good if the ERG and the DUP were acting in good faith. They aren't though. If it wasn't the backstop then they would find something else to say no to.
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Sadly yes I have to agree with you.
They must remember though that they should be voting based on their electorate and not their personal ego.
 
Camy89 said:
What time will they vote? I just tuned in and there's loads of empty seats in the HoC.

Just wondering because this vote seems pretty important...
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Last time around they didnt vote till the evening, around 8 oclock wasnt it? Maybe later. Probably the same this time around, giving MPs time to digest the details in the agreement.
 
Buster15 said:
The likelihood of no solution to the Irish Backstop has been significantly reduced because the latest agreement places the ownership of the solution fairly and squarely on the EU as well as the UK.
We are told that the EU doesn't want the Backstop as don't the UK nor Ireland. That being the case a solution seems to me to be likely.
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The EU don't want the backstop either but nothing that has happened has led to making a solution more likely because there isn't one other than having the border in the Irish Sea which is the solution the EU gave in the first place and the UK rejected.

The other thing I would say, if a solution were ever to be found it would be a disaster for the UK. It's just a delayed cliff edge.
 
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Ill be pretty amazed if May resigns. I think it was The Economist that said, May's single biggest political asset is her ability to be repeatedly punched in the face and still keep getting up for more. This time wont be any different.
 
it is looking grim for may,despite being stuck in the backstop unlikely most mp's seem in their own private groove and won't budge so now we get another no vote on the deal then a no-deal vote which will get through i think and after that a probable extension to article 50 for 2 months because of eu elections
 
A few tory brexiteers who voted it down last time are now pretending there's been a meaningful change in order to vote. They should at least be honest about it.
 
The woman is fecking eedyat... I could say worse but no need. Y'all know...
 
Odds on No Deal getting shot down?
 
I dont think a GE would accomplish anything much either. Labour will not be the party of remain while Corbyn is in charge, their Brexit policy is nonsensical if not completely incoherent. Both parties are utterly divided by Brexit, so a vote for either of them isnt a clear mandate for any course of action in particular.
 
What's the point of GE in any case, the EU must be growing really tired of this and just want to move on one way or the other?
 
Adebesi said:
I dont think a GE would accomplish anything much either. Labour will not be the party of remain while Corbyn is in charge, their Brexit policy is nonsensical if not completely incoherent. Both parties are utterly divided by Brexit, so a vote for either of them isnt a clear mandate for any course of action in particular.
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So basically, it's Mays deal or no deal. A second referendum would cause major issues, especially if it's close again.
If a GE won't sort anything, then where do they go from here. You can't just revoke A50 and tell 17 million people that their vote was worthless and stupid and then beg for the same peoples votes in an election?
 
Brownie85 said:
I imagine that's what'll happen. Or they'll push their brexit lite and promise that.

I think a second referendum will be far too divisive, and really accomplish nothing at all, other than further issues.
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Labour wouldnt want to lose any seats in Brexit areas so they will promote their own Brexit deal and we will be back to square one.
 
Brownie85 said:
So basically, it's Mays deal or no deal. A second referendum would cause major issues, especially if it's close again.
If a GE won't sort anything, then where do they go from here. You can't just revoke A50 and tell 17 million people that their vote was worthless and stupid and then beg for the same peoples votes in an election?
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I honestly dont know. Im starting to think no deal is the likely outcome, because its what happens if nobody can agree to any other course of action, and it doesnt look like they can.

I think a referendum makes more sense than a GE, personally, because at least you get a clear answer, even if its close. But that isnt to say its likely, or that there are no problems with it. And even if we did go that route, the end destination is probably the same anyway. I suspect if you asked the country to choose between no deal and no brexit, they would choose no deal.
 
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