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[rcoobc]

Just to be clear. The WA has been rejected.
The current legal position is that a law has previously been passed that the UK will leave the EU on 29th.
Even if they reject a no deal exit tomorrow that vote does not override the current law.

To stop that the law will have to be changed. The vote cannot override the law unless that law is changed.

All true.

I'm just talking about where the current political train is heading .

I really didn't think an extension was going to happen before tonight.

Of course it's possible that 400 MPs will vote for a no deal Brexit and ... Well... That would solve something at least!

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Here are the figures for how MPs voted for the deal by party.

For

Conservatives: 235

Labour: 3

Independents: 4

Against

Labour: 238

Conservatives: 75

SNP: 35

Independents: 17

Lib Dems: 11

DUP: 10

Plaid Cymru: 4

Green: 1

If the Uk crash out, I wonder who will take the blame.

 

[Steven Seagull]

We are obviously going to vote for an extension

 

[dogrob]

The EU should simply tell the UK on the 29th of March "Good bye and good riddance"

 

[Paul the Wolf]

 

[Buster15]

Here are the figures for how MPs voted for the deal by party.

For

Conservatives: 235

Labour: 3

Independents: 4

Against

Labour: 238

Conservatives: 75

SNP: 35

Independents: 17

Lib Dems: 11

DUP: 10

Plaid Cymru: 4

Green: 1

If the Uk crash out, I wonder who will take the blame.

Easy. Those politicians who blatantly lied to the British people.

 

[Penna]

Yes but who's going to actually do that. Don't think anyone in parliament has got the guts to go against the "will of the people"

If no deal is ruled out tomorrow (which it will be), and the EU then reject an extension because the UK has nothing new to bring to the table (which they haven't) then the only way to honour "no leaving with no deal" is to stop the clock by revocation.

Any extension proposal has to be unanimously agreed by EU member states, and we all know that there are going to be trumps played by some other countries (like Spain with the Gibralter issue).

 

[Dobba]

If the Uk crash out, I wonder who will take the blame.

Corbyn. Duh.

 

[Smores]

By your own expectations up there, they should be on the "all out for second ref" stage by now, not still the "yes it's still on the table but really let's have an election so we can do a Labour brexit" one that's been tried for about six months, with less than three weeks to go.

Very true but i really didn't expect this 2 month freeze where nothings actually happened. May pressed the snooze button and prevented much progress, hard to table amendments or call for anything when Mays "negotiating" again.

 

[Drainy]

Isn't the current status in parliament a democratic reflection of the referendum?

Majority voting against something without a fecking clue what they want.

 

[Drifter]

Here are the figures for how MPs voted for the deal by party.

For

Conservatives: 235

Labour: 3

Independents: 4

Against

Labour: 238

Conservatives: 75

SNP: 35

Independents: 17

Lib Dems: 11

DUP: 10

Plaid Cymru: 4

Green: 1

If the Uk crash out, I wonder who will take the blame.

Cameron. The spud faced chancer.

 

[Rado_N]

The few l know who voted leave had no clue what they voted for. Some admit this and some now pretend they did. Let's face it even the staunchest remain voter didn't know the sheer depth and breadth of the consequences at the time of the vote.

And not a single one of them can explain the virtues of it yet.

 

[Dave89]

Still chasing unicorns two years after they became extinct.

Ok, using actual sentences that make sense, what's he done wrong? Or are you waiting for tomorrow's Sun to elaborate?

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Easy. Those politicians who blatantly lied to the British people.

Corbyn. Duh.

Cameron. The spud faced chancer.

I was just wondering what the UK public may think after and if they did.

 

[golden_blunder]

The year is 2055
Britain is a wasteland, it’s biggest business is the import of other countries waste. Cars are a luxury. Horses are ridden til they collapse and then eaten. There are no pet dogs and cats anymore, they’ve become a luxury food. Peasants grow their own potatoes. The royal homes were sacked 20 years ago during the great revolution. The country is now run by the pickled head of Jacob Raes-Mogg from its glass jar high up in his giant house made of gold

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Ok, using actual sentences that make sense, what's he done wrong? Or are you waiting for tomorrow's Sun to elaborate?

His plan, which has already been ruled out twice in parliament and is not actually possible is what I mean but he's still trying to put forward. May Mark II.

 

[2 man midfield]

Absolute horseshit

You can't suddenly not be in the EU after decades of being in it. A mechanism has to be worked out to allow the UK to stand alone, or the country would crash and burn virtually overnight. That's what they've been attempting to do and it was quite right and proper that the mechanism for leaving was put to the House.

I get that, I'm just saying the people I work with, family and friends I have who voted leave all just assumed it would be a clean break. Hence where a lot of the "get on with it!" talk came from, I guess.

The few l know who voted leave had no clue what they voted for. Some admit this and some now pretend they did. Let's face it even the staunchest remain voter didn't know the sheer depth and breadth of the consequences at the time of the vote.

Agreed

 

[SteveJ]

The year is 2055
Britain is a wasteland, it’s biggest business is the import of other countries waste. Cars are a luxury. Horses are ridden til they collapse and then eaten. There are no pet dogs and cats anymore, they’ve become a luxury food. Peasants grow their own potatoes. The royal homes were sacked 20 years ago during the great revolution. The country is now run by the pickled head of Jacob Raes-Mogg from its glass jar high up in his giant house made of gold

...and Liverpool still haven't won the league.

 

[rcoobc]

The year is 2055
Britain is a wasteland, it’s biggest business is the import of other countries waste. Cars are a luxury. Horses are ridden til they collapse and then eaten. There are no pet dogs and cats anymore, they’ve become a luxury food. Peasants grow their own potatoes. The royal homes were sacked 20 years ago during the great revolution. The country is now run by the pickled head of Jacob Raes-Mogg from its glass jar high up in his giant house made of gold

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[Carolina Red]

The year is 2055
Britain is a wasteland, it’s biggest business is the import of other countries waste. Cars are a luxury. Horses are ridden til they collapse and then eaten. There are no pet dogs and cats anymore, they’ve become a luxury food. Peasants grow their own potatoes. The royal homes were sacked 20 years ago during the great revolution. The country is now run by the pickled head of Jacob Raes-Mogg from its glass jar high up in his giant house made of gold

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

EU then reject an extension

Hasn't EU said they'd support an extension?

 

[Paul the Wolf]

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

I don't trust either side, centrism is fecking dead at a time when we need it the most.

We have a parliamentary Conservative party being held to ransom by the DUP and the ERG who won't listen to any kind of reason and will torpedo any deal proposal and cling on for no deal. If we stay in Europe, those right-wing nutjobs are just as much to blame as the left-wing asshat at the helm of the Labour party who purports to be vehemently against no deal, but for the sake of tribalism and political opportunism won't work with the only offer the EU is giving us, because he seems to think he can score a general election out of this clusterfeck.

Feck both sides.

 

[madzo2007]

From STV's Political Correspondent

 

[Dobba]

I don't trust either side, centrism is fecking dead at a time when we need it the most.

We have a parliamentary Conservative party being held to ransom by the DUP and the ERG who won't listen to any kind of reason and will torpedo any deal proposal and cling on for no deal. If we stay in Europe, those right-wing nutjobs are just as much to blame as the left-wing asshat at the helm of the Labour party who purports to be vehemently against no deal, but for the sake of tribalism and political opportunism won't work with the only offer the EU is giving us, because he seems to think he can score a general election out of this clusterfeck.

Feck both sides.

Poor Chuka, he puts his London 2012 Opening Ceremony tribute manifesto out there and centrism still dies.

 

[Kentonio]

Hasn't EU said they'd support an extension?

Has to be for a real reason.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

"Such a big decision should never be left to the people, we put our trust in the govt to make big decisions for us".

Quote, most in here

Until everyone discovered that the politicians are equally as ignorant as the voters.

 

[golden_blunder]

...and Liverpool still haven't won the league.

Football has been cancelled after the great so called chewing incident, after hungry several players started eating the referee

 

[Brownie85]

From STV's Political Correspondent

So Corbyn will get his election wish after all...

That'll be fun and games won't it!

 

[SteveJ]

Football has been cancelled after the great so called chewing incident, after hungry several players started eating the referee

 

[Smores]

The entire Leave campaign was built around securing a deal and no deal was dismissed by its leaders as scare tactics.

You'd have to be completely oblivious to think brexit meant no deal

 

[JPRouve]

Hasn't EU said they'd support an extension?

There is no way to tell since it's dependent on a vote at the EU council where unanimity is required.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Based on the latest position the UK will wake up on March 30 OUT of the EU with no deal.

An English woman I know is leaving tomorrow for the UK and due to fly back here to her home on 30th March. She's not confident she'll make it back on the 30th.

 

[Hephaestus]

Football has been cancelled after the great so called chewing incident, after hungry several players started eating the referee

Fortunately it was Jon Moss so there's still plenty of him left.

 

[2 man midfield]

The entire Leave campaign was built around securing a deal and no deal was dismissed by its leaders as scare tactics.

You'd have to be completely oblivious to think brexit meant no deal

Ding ding ding

 

[Brownie85]

Hasn't EU said they'd support an extension?

Pretty sure they said they'd only extend for a valid reason.

Not agreeing on a deal they've put forward wouldn't be classed as a good reason i'd imagine.

 

[Eboue]

Poor Chuka, he puts his London 2012 Opening Ceremony tribute manifesto out there and centrism still dies.

the politics of failure have failed, we need to make them work again

 

[Rajma]

An English woman I know is leaving tomorrow for the UK and due to fly back here to her home on 30th March. She's not confident she'll make it back on the 30th.

I’ve got my flight scheduled on 30th as well to London, gonna be fun that it seems.

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

...and Liverpool still haven't won the league.

Climate change has resulted in 36 consecutive years of wind

 

[rcoobc]

the politics of failure have failed, we need to make them work again