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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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She says she's friends with Dan Hannan.

That makes perfect sense
 
Cross party co-operation & soft Brexit seems a likely solution, albeit full of fudges and compromise.

I think me landing the euromillions and then having a 3some with Scarlett Johansson and Emma Stone on a mattress made of bill notes sounds more likely.

I haven't thought about this extensively, honest.
 
I think me landing the euromillions and then having a 3some with Scarlett Johansson and Emma Stone on a mattress made of bill notes sounds more likely.

I haven't thought about this extensively, honest.
Well that has helped take my mind off politics..
 
May sounds like she spent the weekend eating Juncker’s dick to get that deal. Still fell in its arse though.
 
At the very least they have to request for a 1-year transition period into this hard brexit. feck all is ready for the end of the month.

There probably isn't going to be a hard brexit.

The eu have said there is no transition without a deal. So no deal just means we're out at this point. Would be ridiculously irresponsible of mps to go for that now.
 

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Is a process of elimination

May's Deal is out of the table

Next they will vote "No Deal" out of the table

They will not be able to extend because the EU will not agree

The only possible outcome it will be revoke Article 50. They will do it with lies, excuses, saying that they will trigger it again, they will kick the can down the streeet, they will do a new GE and/or referendum, will go Remain and it will be just remembered as one of the most pathetic moments in european politics
 
Crazy that this is the best case scenario.

Hopefully will happen.

Though if it happens, at the same time it seems like all the countries are trapped in the EU and is not something good to have that perception that the EU is One evil organization to bring all the countries and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Brussels where the Shadows lie
 
So not wanting the freedom of Movement is something extra that the May added on quitting the EU, because FoM is about the EEA and not the EU.

So why you don't leave the EU staying on the EEA is beyond my comprehension. The Referendum said nothing about the EEA and the four freedoms

Do you agree?

The four freedoms are part of the single market, the UK participation in the single market comes from it's membership of the EU.

The UK is not a member of the EEA. The referendum said nothing about joining it. The question wasn't hard, Leave or Remain in the European Union; leave won.

Is there a case for the UK joining the EEA, perhaps but you'd need to put it to the people and ask them after the UK leaves the EU
 
How you feeling about what happened today?

With Brexit? It's a shit deal, but I think when push came to shove I'd have voted for it today. It's the least worse option on the table right now.

Remain / Revoke for me have too much political downside for the country, the betrayal narrative and the rise of some post-ukip party wouldn't be pretty. There needs to be some kind of leave that can be seen to enact the mandate of the 17.4m voters. There's no way forward until this happens.

Parliament can vote to "take no deal off the table" tomorrow but it doesn't have the slightest bit of legal force. The withdrawal act is still on the books and 29th of March is Brexit day until this is changed. Until this is repealed or an extension agreed, the clock is still ticking.

I don't think we can take an extension for granted. What's the point of it if we still don't have an end state? The only end states are, Deal, No Deal or Revoke.

Extension for May to keep on shilling her deal is pointless.
 
The four freedoms are part of the single market, the UK participation in the single market comes from it's membership of the EU.

The UK is not a member of the EEA. The referendum said nothing about joining it. The question wasn't hard, Leave or Remain in the European Union; leave won.

Is there a case for the UK joining the EEA, perhaps but you'd need to put it to the people and ask them after the UK leaves the EU

But the referendum said nothing neither to abandon the FoM. That is just from May's red lines. Why do you think people will be outraged if UK would leave the EU but will preserve the 4 freedoms? after all it will be Brexit anyways and the will of the people would be respected
 
But the referendum said nothing neither to abandon the FoM. That is just from May's red lines. Why do you think people will be outraged if UK would leave the EU but will preserve the 4 freedoms? after all it will be Brexit anyways and the will of the people would be respected

Not sure there's much point in this but it said, "leave the european union".

The four freedoms derive from membership of the EU. When people voted against membership of the EU, they voted against all the rights and obligations that accompany that membership.
 
Not sure there's much point in this but it said, "leave the european union".

The four freedoms derive from membership of the EU. When people voted against membership of the EU, they voted against all the rights and obligations that accompany that membership.

There are countries that are outside the EU and the EEA and have the 4 freedoms. And there is a very big point. The GFA that needs the FoM to exist and was signed by the UK. And basically why a deal can't be delivered. So yes, there is much a point
 
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Remain / Revoke for me have too much political downside for the country
Talking about political downside...
The GFA that needs the FoM to exist
Also, what’s gonna be the political downside of the UK having to go it alone negotiating new trade deals with literally everyone? You’re not that big of a market, and a good bit of it comes from your being in the EU.
 
Talking about political downside...

Also, what’s gonna be the political downside of the UK having to go it alone negotiating new trade deals with literally everyone? You’re not that big of a market, and a good bit of it comes from your being in the EU.

The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world (After US / China / Japan / Germany) it's a big enough market. If South Korea (11th) and Canada (10th) can strike good deals, the UK will be fine.
 
There are countries that are outside the EU and the EEA and have the 4 freedoms. And there is a very big point. The GFA that needs the FoM to exist and was signed by the UK. And basically why a deal can't be delivered. So yes, there is much a point

No, the GFA agreement needs a suitable bi-lateral agreement between the UK and Ireland.