So who will be PM after TM gets the elbow?
Boris.
So who will be PM after TM gets the elbow?
Also Britain is properly fecked.
...by design.Also Britain is properly fecked
We know it wont get through, so why wait?One last go at getting her deal through.
When that fails, she'll step down, the Tories will run their leadership election and we'll have a new PM in time for conference in late September.
The new leader will presumably be a Brexiteer, so 'no deal' exit will probably be the eventual outcome in October.
I so hope so, put the cons to bed forever. Go Boris, kill the party please.Boris.
We know it wont get through, so why wait?
So what happens if this happens?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/majority-of-europeans-expect-end-of-eu-within-20-years
So what happens if this happens?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/majority-of-europeans-expect-end-of-eu-within-20-years
Or they could form a trading block without any of the cak tagged on.Europe returns to being a fractured collection of competing nation states, overshadowed and manipulated freely by the US, Russia and China. Trade will diminish substantially, social progress will slow and in some nations decline, and it will all be extremely fecking depressing.
So what happens if this happens?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/15/majority-of-europeans-expect-end-of-eu-within-20-years
Brexit disarray returns: talks about to fail as May's premiership fades
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...mays-premiership-fades-idUKKCN1SN0HM?rpc=401&
Surely this means a peoples vote now.
I think our perspective is being wilfully skewed. People who want dramatic change are always going to be highly motivated to vote, whereas reasonably satisfied people aren't so bothered. And then there's the desperation from monied interests & their media allies to make it seem that there's a massive public mandate for Brexit, especially the harder kind...It's scary how popular a political party without a manifesto has become.
I'm sure May didn't expect them to succeed, she only needed them to spin out time until the new deadline, when once again she could force MPs to choose between her deal and no deal. The plan hasn't changed a bit.I'm not convinced the talks were ever meant to succeed.
For someone who is a secret brexiter, Corbyn is pretty rubbish at doing brexit.
Yeah, those over-60 Brits are famously loaded.Strange, then, that we have a shameful history of them freezing to death in winter because of ever-rising heating costs, or starving because they chose to feed their pets instead of themselves.
This agenda-led pitting of generations against each other must end.
Yeah, those over-60 Brits are famously loaded.Strange, then, that we have a shameful history of them freezing to death in winter because of ever-rising heating costs, or starving because they chose to feed their pets instead of themselves.
This agenda-led pitting of generations against each other must end.
On the most fundamental level, that seems flawed - those particular, fortunate pensioners have had more years to accrue money.The average pensioner statically has more spending power than the average working age person.
Slagging off the largest demographic is a great way to lose elections if you're more interested in being a protest group than a government though.Yeah, those over-60 Brits are famously loaded.Strange, then, that we have a shameful history of them freezing to death in winter because of ever-rising heating costs, or starving because they chose to feed their pets instead of themselves.
This agenda-led pitting of generations against each other must end.
In fairness Steve they constantly vote for the government that does this to them. I would a love cross generations politics, I mean christ the people leading this new wave of left politics are all old white guys but the fact is older voters will not move at all, better to freeze to death in a high value house then let the grand kids go to university for free or better to die in shit britannia then have the imagery brown folks live next door.Yeah, those over-60 Brits are famously loaded.Strange, then, that we have a shameful history of them freezing to death in winter because of ever-rising heating costs, or starving because they chose to feed their pets instead of themselves.
This agenda-led pitting of generations against each other must end.
I could be wrong but people earning under 30 grand mostly voted for brexit, so there is a element of ''cry of the underdog'' but overall the idea that Brexit was just bunch of left behind white coal miners fighting back against the liberal elite is complete horse shite.But the media still report Brexit as some cry of rage on the part of the underdog.
On the most fundamental level, that seems flawed - those particular, fortunate pensioners have had more years to accrue money.
The UK voting in these elections are completely pointless, they'll be out before anything meaningful happens in the EU parliament.
Why would anyone vote for Tories or Labour in the elections anyway?
Gives us the chance to protest vote away from the usual bellends. Just concerned it gives Farage a boost.![]()
The UK voting in these elections are completely pointless, they'll be out before anything meaningful happens in the EU parliament.
Why would anyone vote for Tories or Labour in the elections anyway?
It isn’t even getting started.Yeah, those over-60 Brits are famously loaded.Strange, then, that we have a shameful history of them freezing to death in winter because of ever-rising heating costs, or starving because they chose to feed their pets instead of themselves.
This agenda-led pitting of generations against each other must end.
Over 70s voting in the referendum was completely pointless. They'll be long long dead before they would see any possible benefits.
The reason the over 70s say they voted which I've heard numerous times was that they were doing it for their grandchildren. I'm sure their grandchildren will be eternally thankful.
The reason the over 70s say they voted which I've heard numerous times was that they were doing it for their grandchildren. I'm sure their grandchildren will be eternally thankful.
On the other hand everyone could give the real reason they voted Brexit, which would make a nice change.