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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Is that 10 hours less 2 unpaid for lunch, 9 to 7.30 for example?

When I was working in here it was typically 08.00-12.00 2 hours lunch then 14.00-17.30 - 5 days a week
which equals 37.5 hours per week - as the week was officially a 35 hour week - the additional 2.5 hours went towards their holidays.
 
When I was working in here it was typically 08.00-12.00 2 hours lunch then 14.00-17.30 - 5 days a week
which equals 37.5 hours per week - as the week was officially a 35 hour week - the additional 2.5 hours went towards their holidays.
I'd actually hate that. Give me a 30 minute lunch and finish at 4pm instead please.
 
I'd actually hate that. Give me a 30 minute lunch and finish at 4pm instead please.

It's ok if you live locally and can spend time with your kids etc at lunchtime and with lunch the main meal of the day.
I was actually working about 14/15 hours a day at that time , traveling 2000kms a week and living out of hotels so I didn't get the benefit.
 
It's ok if you live locally and can spend time with your kids etc at lunchtime and with lunch the main meal of the day.
I was actually working about 14/15 hours a day at that time , traveling 2000kms a week and living out of hotels so I didn't get the benefit.
Being a male escort is a tough life, Paul.
 
It's like a perfect storm this. Trump drums up a tradewar with china to halt the world economy. Then Boris Johnson comes in and engineers a no deal brexit to trigger a cascade of global recessions. Meanwhile, the climate crisis is accelerating, but no one will have time for that in the aftermath.

Donald Trump and Boris Johnson are the leaders of the 21st century Anglosphere. And trump might just be the lesser evil. Let that sinks in.
 
Trump and BoJo remind me of that mad max 3 character the big guy with the little guy up top
 
Why can't you get one now? USA regulations, lifespan of product amongst others but after Brexit an American company could make them because the EU protection of the name will be gone.

I have no idea but it's a terrible situation. First thing I get when I land in Blighty is a decent pork pie.
 
Well if it can't I'll up the rent for some of my Tennant's... Bit of an Xmas gift for them

An added bonus if the pound sinking though is I've made a fortune (in pounds) selling some of my property abroad...

Joke as I can about this stuff without doubt I don't intend to suffer personally because of brexit ... But it looks like there will be a financial hit and I think we can all figure out that those worst prepared for that are probably going to be hit hardest.
Haha!

Although, on a more serious note though, it will be those who don't have the resources or opportunity to prepare for it who are hit the hardest.

Meanwhile the people with the means to benefit from it are the same ones pushing it through parliament.
 
It's true as well
Yet the demographics generally showed that the richer (and better educated and of course there is often a corolation between those two) the more likley you were to vote remain

I hope a lot of those who voted leave are still happy with their decision as I see them paying a disproportionate burden

I tend to agree with you, but I don't think @Jippy does.
 
I tend to agree with you, but I don't think @Jippy does.
I don't think that's 100% correct. The vote obviously made for such strange bedfellows, eg the Nissan car workers and the landed gentry, for example, with the likes of goddamn Rees Mogg and Johnson somehow being lauded as 'men of the people' in certain quarters.
Another generalisation, but it makes sense that more remain voters were educated, reasonably well off and more international in their outlook.
 
I can't wait till i turn on the news and that fecking twat Tom Harwood isn't on my television.
 
Another generalisation, but it makes sense that more remain voters were educated, reasonably well off and more international in their outlook.

Remainers = 'the elite', the new 'Aristo's'... off with their heads, will that be the next cry from the masses (the great unwashed)...good job its not the French peasantry who are demanding to leave the EU! ;)
 
I see farrage was on TV talking about only standing candidates against conservatives who don't back no deal

I still think Johnson will call for an election vote before parliament comes back and make it the first thing on the agenda so a confidence vote can't be called

Gut feel... Election date 24th October as it gives the 7 week period and makes the election a straight up fight between leave on 31st or remain / extend / 2nd ref /unicorns being lumped together

Imagine that week trying to sort out a formal coalition though ... (My gut feel is a majority of about 75 for Johnson if labour don't join the remain alliance and brexit/conservative campaign together )
 
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Remainers = 'the elite', the new 'Aristo's'... off with their heads, will that be the next cry from the masses (the great unwashed)...good job its not the French peasantry who are demanding to leave the EU! ;)
Yeah the French would defo do it in style. It is ridiculous that the media has painted the remain camp as the elite, when leave was headed by Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson of Eton and Oxford schooling.
 

“We care so much about remaining in the EU that we are willing to allow a no-deal Brexit to happen if Corbyn won’t promise to remain no matter what”

“Labour should make its GE manifesto promise to revoke article 50 even though 30% of its voters voted leave. This is smart electoral politics”
 
I see farrage was on TV talking about only standing candidates against conservatives who don't back no deal

I still think Johnson will call for an election vote before parliament comes back and make it the first thing on the agenda so a confidence vote can't be called

Gut feel... Election date 24th October as it gives the 7 week period and makes the election a straight up fight between leave on 31st or remain / extend / 2nd ref /unicorns being lumped together

Imagine that week trying to sort out a formal coalition though ... (My gut feel is a majority of about 75 for Johnson if labour don't join the remain alliance and brexit/conservative campaign together )
I think you're spot on. An election sometime in 2019 is 2/5 on at most bookies, but just looking at the sort of things Johnson is coming out with makes me think sooner rather than later.

No idea what Labour will do though, Corbyn will twist and turn to avoid standing on Remain but whether he does or he doesn't it's hard to see his policy being convincing. No overall majority is favourite at the bookies, but a Tory majority is looking good to me at 7/4.
 
“We care so much about remaining in the EU that we are willing to allow a no-deal Brexit to happen if Corbyn won’t promise to remain no matter what”

“Labour should make its GE manifesto promise to revoke article 50 even though 30% of its voters voted leave. This is smart electoral politics”


The Isle of Wight need to be turned into a giant re education platform.
 
I see farrage was on TV talking about only standing candidates against conservatives who don't back no deal

I still think Johnson will call for an election vote before parliament comes back and make it the first thing on the agenda so a confidence vote can't be called

Gut feel... Election date 24th October as it gives the 7 week period and makes the election a straight up fight between leave on 31st or remain / extend / 2nd ref /unicorns being lumped together

Imagine that week trying to sort out a formal coalition though ... (My gut feel is a majority of about 75 for Johnson if labour don't join the remain alliance and brexit/conservative campaign together )

I honestly have no idea who to vote for in a General Election.

I guess May is still, at heart, for remain.
 
What can this little coalition actually do to stop no deal Brexit, short of vote of no confidence before late October?

They said they will prioritise legislation but what legislation can they put through other than revoke article 50?
 
“We care so much about remaining in the EU that we are willing to allow a no-deal Brexit to happen if Corbyn won’t promise to remain no matter what”

“Labour should make its GE manifesto promise to revoke article 50 even though 30% of its voters voted leave. This is smart electoral politics”

The first mock quote makes no sense. Work on it. Secondly, it's a quote from Plaid Cymru who are not Liberals. Thirdly, Corbyn seems to also be against no-deal but apparently not enough to suspend his ambitions for premiership till the GE. The Guardian article is an opinion piece from a single column writer and, if you read it, you'd see it's criticising Lib Dems as well for their stance.

But yeah, damn Liberals. They ruined Britain.
 
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“Labour should make its GE manifesto promise to revoke article 50 even though 30% of its voters voted leave. This is smart electoral politics”

37% actually. You are aware that 42% of Tories voted Remain though yes? And that the Tories are now quite blatantly pursuing a no-deal Brexit? Or does electoral math only matter when it comes to Labour?
 
What can this little coalition actually do to stop no deal Brexit, short of vote of no confidence before late October?

They said they will prioritise legislation but what legislation can they put through other than revoke article 50?
If they can get control of the order paper and pass a motion they can compel the pm to ask for an extension to A50
That said they can't compel him to ask nicely or prevent him adding conditions he knows would be unacceptable
Nor of course can they make the EU accept any extension
 


As putrid as the Leave campaign was and is, the ultra-Remain base is equally stomach-churning.
 
I suppose we can consider that they've not all come out of today's meeting bickering a qualified success.

I wonder how much of Lib Dems moaning is hoping for a concession so they can then claim alignment with Labour and go into a formal pact at the GE. There's little doubt with Farage saying they'll pact with the Tories that a Lab-Lib pact is necessary. I was reading Lab would benefit to roughly 100 seats and the Lib Dems 40, which to them is a substantial gain.
 
If they can get control of the order paper and pass a motion they can compel the pm to ask for an extension to A50
That said they can't compel him to ask nicely or prevent him adding conditions he knows would be unacceptable
Nor of course can they make the EU accept any extension

I think they'll put a specific date this time. Hammonds lot have 'apparently' been back channeling to get an informally agreed date with the EU.

I suppose maybe Boris could throw a spanner in and add some condition to it.
 
The first mock quote makes no sense. Work on it. Secondly, it's a quote from Plaid Cymru who are not Liberals. Thirdly, Corbyn seems to also be against no-deal but apparently not enough to suspend his ambitions for premiership till the GE. The Guardian article is an opinion piece from a single column writer and, if you read it, you'd see it's criticising Lib Dems as well for their stance.

But yeah, damn Liberals. They ruined Britain.
They have although that isn't what I said
Liberals have lost their minds.




Also you can be a liberal without being in the Lib Dems.
 
If they can get control of the order paper and pass a motion they can compel the pm to ask for an extension to A50
That said they can't compel him to ask nicely or prevent him adding conditions he knows would be unacceptable
Nor of course can they make the EU accept any extension
Macron was firmly against a long extension and if he's consistent he'll be against another one, not to mention the possibility of other leaders changing their minds.
 
If they can get control of the order paper and pass a motion they can compel the pm to ask for an extension to A50
That said they can't compel him to ask nicely or prevent him adding conditions he knows would be unacceptable
Nor of course can they make the EU accept any extension

This another example of how weak and spineless some of our politicians are, this kind of gerrymandering means nothing and accomplishes nothing as you say Boris will have the last word, but I guess it makes some opposition as well as Tory Remainers feel good about themselves.
The only way to stop Boris is a vote of no confidence in his Government and all MPs should vote according to their conscience and then take their chances in a GE (assuming the No confidence vote is passed and the Government falls). However as Turkeys don't vote for Christmas, many, a great many MPs, will not take the chance of a) being deselected or b) then losing out in a Leave v Remain election that will follow, a number of careers are on the line, only the ones already planning on taking retirement at the next GE, will feel happy. Even the Labour candidates (mainly in the North) who usually don't count their vote they just weight it, will be getting an attack of the 'squeaky bums'