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Bundesliga 13/14
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I'm trying to work out how they'll lineup next season. Will he replace Kiessling as the CF? Or will he push Brandt out of the team and start on the right?
----------Drmic-----------
--Son---Castro---Brandt--
--------Kiessling----------
--Son---Castro---Drmic--
Probably both I suppose. But Brandt has done really well since his debut. 2 goals, 3 assists in 500 odd minutes.
Brandt has been doing extremely well IMHO! Wouldn't have surprised me if Löw had nominated him for the match against Poland.
Difficult to tell how Leverkusen will use Drmic, i.e. as their incoming coach Roger Schmidt may have very different ideas than Lewandowski/Hyppiä. Someone may correct me but Leverkusen had a rather slim squad this season and remained relatively injury-free as compared to Dortmund, Schalke, or Bayern. If Kießling had gotten seriously injured, Leverkusen had most likely struggled to replace him with Derdiyok.
Looking at your formation, I'm not sure if Castro will stay.
They had Sam out injured for a while. But Kiessling was injury free for the entire season and Derdiyok was their backup (who's rubbish). I wonder if Leverkusen could convince Hamburg to sell Calhanoglu if they get relegated. He could replace Castro in that formation and they could lineup like:
------------Drmic-------------
--Son---Calhanoglu---Brandt--
Kiessling had a disappointing season really. From 25 goals down to 15, so I wouldn't be surprised if Drmic takes his starting spot initially. I'd be trying to poach Geis from Mainz as well as he could replace Bender perfectly if he did leave. Assuming Bender and Castro left and they signed Geis and Calhanoglu, they could lineup like the below:
------------Drmic-------------
--Son---Calhanoglu---Brandt--
---------Geis--Can-----------
That would be an exciting young team!
It'll be interesting to see where Calhanolglu ends up if he leaves HSV. I'm not fully convinced about him, and Drmic would need to prove that he's not a half of a season wonder.
Geis looks indeed very promising. But would Mainz be willing to sell him now? He could be also a possible successor for Gündogan in summer 2015, and the relations between Mainz and BVB are quite close as you surely know.
Key question of course it what Geis prefers.L. Bender made it pretty clear that he wants to stay. He basically said that he's disappointed with his season and doesn't feel ready to move to a bigger club. He also extended his contract recently, so Leverkusen is in a good position to keep him.
I really really hope Geis stays in Mainz for another season. If their best players leave, it'll be again a disappointing season for them in Europe. They should at least qualify for the group stages. They deserve that experience after years of brilliant work and I'm sure the fans would love it.
I really really hope Geis stays in Mainz for another season. If their best players leave, it'll be again a disappointing season for them in Europe. They should at least qualify for the group stages. They deserve that experience after years of brilliant work and I'm sure the fans would love it.
It'll be interesting to see where Calhanolglu ends up if he leaves HSV. I'm not fully convinced about him, and Drmic would need to prove that he's not a half of a season wonder.
Geis looks indeed very promising. But would Mainz be willing to sell him now? He could be also a possible successor for Gündogan in summer 2015, and the relations between Mainz and BVB are quite close as you surely know.
Geis is going to be one of those players that I think a number of clubs will fight for. He's absolute quality.
Ah so Benders staying? I thought he said that because he didn't want to join Arsenal!
Are there any front runners on managers taking over at Mainz? I hope for their sake they can keep hold of their young lads, Karius, Geis, Bell and even that lad Saller all have very promising futures imo. But money talks in the world of football, just look at Southampton!
Ah so Benders staying? I thought he said that because he didn't want to join Arsenal!
It's really weird how all of Arsenal's Bundesliga transfer targets state in public that they don't want to leave Germany at the moment
. Draxler, Bender. Drmic signed for Leverkusen.Veh is the new manager in Stuttgart, no idea who's frontrunner in Mainz at the moment.
It's really weird how all of Arsenal's Bundesliga transfer targets state in public that they don't want to leave Germany at the moment
Veh is the new manager in Stuttgart, no idea who's frontrunner in Mainz at the moment.
The Drmic one has made me laugh so hard.
That Drmic prefers Leverkusen over Arsenal or how Lothar Matthäus embarrassed himself re: a Drmic move or both?
A newbie shared his view one or two pages earlier. Kicker (print) writes that according to their sources, talks with Kasper Hjulmand from Nordsjaelland are quite advanced. Lieberknecht from just relagated Braunschweig is also mentioned (aside from being a good manager, he's originally from Rhineland-Palatine which Mainz is the capital of) but his boss, Marc Arnold, categorically ruled out letting him go.
Matthäus is probably now in London looking for Drmic's wife..
I do have to admit I'm actually interested in seeing how Leverkusen will do next season. Schmidt is an interesting proposition as a manager and they look to be strengthening their squad wisely. Brandt has also shown massive potential and next year could be huge for him.
I do have to admit I'm actually interested in seeing how Leverkusen will do next season. Schmidt is an interesting proposition as a manager and they look to be strengthening their squad wisely. Brandt has also shown massive potential and next year could be huge for him.
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The distribution of the tv money in the Bundesliga this season (the distribution key is a bit difficult to explain, but it depends on the league positions in the last 5 years and it usually means, the 1st placed team gets about double the amount of the 18th placed team).
1. Bayern München 36.930.000
2. Borussia Dortmund 35.552.500
3. Bayer Leverkusen 33.675.000
4. Schalke 04 33.297.500
5. Bor. Mönchengladbach 31.920.000
6. Hannover 96 30.792.500
7. VfL Wolfsburg 30.165.000
8. FSV Mainz 05 29 037.500
9. SC Freiburg 28.160.000
10. VfB Stuttgart 27.224.000
11. Werder Bremen 26.229.500
12. 1899 Hoffenheim 25.176.500
13. Hamburger SV 24.065.000
14. 1. FC Nürnberg 22.895.000
15. Eintracht Frankfurt 21.725.000
16. FC Augsburg 20.555.000
17. Hertha BSC 19.385.000
18. Eintr. Braunschweig 18.215.000
In total it's 468m from the domestic tv deals and 27m from international tv deals. From 2015 onwards, we'll see new international tv deals kicking in (including one that will make the Bundesliga available in the US), which will increase the international part significantly. The domestic tv deal increases each year from now on and will be above 700m in 2016/17. I know that's still far away from the amount the premier league makes each year, but it's huge for German football and especially the smaller clubs will benefit from it, because the broadcast revenue is usually their most important income. It takes time to catch up with the other leagues, but we're getting there.
1. Bayern München 36.930.000
2. Borussia Dortmund 35.552.500
3. Bayer Leverkusen 33.675.000
4. Schalke 04 33.297.500
5. Bor. Mönchengladbach 31.920.000
6. Hannover 96 30.792.500
7. VfL Wolfsburg 30.165.000
8. FSV Mainz 05 29 037.500
9. SC Freiburg 28.160.000
10. VfB Stuttgart 27.224.000
11. Werder Bremen 26.229.500
12. 1899 Hoffenheim 25.176.500
13. Hamburger SV 24.065.000
14. 1. FC Nürnberg 22.895.000
15. Eintracht Frankfurt 21.725.000
16. FC Augsburg 20.555.000
17. Hertha BSC 19.385.000
18. Eintr. Braunschweig 18.215.000
In total it's 468m from the domestic tv deals and 27m from international tv deals. From 2015 onwards, we'll see new international tv deals kicking in (including one that will make the Bundesliga available in the US), which will increase the international part significantly. The domestic tv deal increases each year from now on and will be above 700m in 2016/17. I know that's still far away from the amount the premier league makes each year, but it's huge for German football and especially the smaller clubs will benefit from it, because the broadcast revenue is usually their most important income. It takes time to catch up with the other leagues, but we're getting there.
Both. I loved the "wife" stories. Classic considering he doesn't have a Wife! I called bullshit on that story when it came out for that reason!
Yeah, this is already a classic Matthäus! And still BILD, Sky, Sport1 etc etc etc will continue disseminating whatever fart he's releasing ...Both. I loved the "wife" stories. Classic considering he doesn't have a Wife! I called bullshit on that story when it came out for that reason!
6 million? You can't even buy Clint fecking Hill for this kind of money in England...
Braunschweig fans cheering their team on after being relegated. Class act.
Calhanoglu's advisor has confirmed that he wants to leave Hamburg with Leverkusen an option. Says a move abroad is out of the question.
Seems like Leverkusen mean business this time around. I'm intrigued!
Seems like Leverkusen mean business this time around. I'm intrigued!
Good for Leverkusen, indeed!
However, I'd be pissed not just as a HSV but also as a B04 exec if a player (or his agent) flirts so openly with another club just right before such important games like the relegation play offs. Why couldn't he just wait for another 10 days with such public comments?
If he does it at HSV, chances are he'll do it at Leverkusen as well once a sexier club comes along.
However, I'd be pissed not just as a HSV but also as a B04 exec if a player (or his agent) flirts so openly with another club just right before such important games like the relegation play offs. Why couldn't he just wait for another 10 days with such public comments?
If he does it at HSV, chances are he'll do it at Leverkusen as well once a sexier club comes along.
They need too! Wolfsburg/Gladbach/Schalke are catching them up!
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You'd have probably said this was Leverkusens strongest team at the start of the season:
-------------Kiessling-------------
----------Sam-----Son-----------
----Castro---Reinartz---Bender----
Average Age: 24.8
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They ended the season playing:
------------Kiessling-------------
-----Son----Castro----Brandt----
-----------Can---Bender--------
Average Age: 23.3
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They could lineup next season as:
--------------Drmic--------------
---Son---Calhanoglu---Brandt----
-----------Can---Bender---------
Average Age: 21.1
They've already added Drmic who bagged 17 goals this season and if they managed to get Calhanoglu who bagged 11 goals, they'll turn into a youthful, fast paced team with goals everywhere. It'd be impressive!
Wolfsburg is apparently again trying to lure Lukaku to them (as last summer). I'd be surprised if they are successful but OTOH, with de Bruyne and Malanda, they have already two Belgian lads and they've been in intense talks with Lestienne (he's already been in Wolfsburg twice). Wolfsburg could become the German equivalent of Chelsea - on a much smaller scale and in the German middle of nowhere, of course.
Wolfsburg is apparently again trying to lure Lukaku to them (as last summer). I'd be surprised if they are successful but OTOH, with de Bruyne and Malanda, they have already two Belgian lads and they've been in intense talks with Lestienne (he's already been in Wolfsburg twice). Wolfsburg could become the German equivalent of Chelsea - on a much smaller scale and in the German middle of nowhere, of course.
Then again, they'll have a task trying to keep hold of Rodriguez and Knoche this summer.
With Gladbach having already strengthened their team wisely and Wolfsburg having the money to do so, next season will be thoroughly entertaining. Have to admit Leverkusen's squad looks good on paper and I'm curious to see what Schmidt can do there. Wouldn't be averse to see them competing.
Wolfsburg are in for Lukaku again? Not sure whether he would want to leave Chelsea, he seems like he has set his mind on succeeding there, which is not a bad thing but I just get the feeling Mourinho doesn't trust him at all. If the Costa deal goes through I don't see him getting any opportunities there next season either. De Bruyne might try and tempt him to move, would love to have him in the Bundesliga to be honest.
Wolfsburg are in for Lukaku again? Not sure whether he would want to leave Chelsea, he seems like he has set his mind on succeeding there, which is not a bad thing but I just get the feeling Mourinho doesn't trust him at all. If the Costa deal goes through I don't see him getting any opportunities there next season either. De Bruyne might try and tempt him to move, would love to have him in the Bundesliga to be honest.
For both players, the club is in the driver seat. Knoche is no problem at all, I guess: He's extended his contract without a buy-out clause, is from the region, very down-to-earth, patient, highly respected by Allofs, Hecking, and fans.
Rodriguez is a different story. He instigates media chit chat that he wants to leave for a CL playing club but he has no buy-out clause, and Allofs said twice during one week they won't sell him this season, no matter if Real Madrid or Chelsea come along. I wouldn't trust his words though if he could get Morata or Lukaku in a swap deal.
The one with a buy-out clause and likely to leave after the WC is Gustavo.
rodriguez is a monstrous beast of a left back and was, imho, decidedly better than alaba during the season.
If one could only read José's mind!
I had thought that he would have liked Lukaku to become his Drogba 2.0 but doesn't look as if by now.Rodriguez was one of the rare gems in Magath's extensive shopping tours. Although Rodriguez didn't thrive under him IIRC: He's been superb only since Hecking is on board.
All it takes is for a massive club to come calling and Knoche will be off. They'll probably keep hold of Knoche for at least one more season but then again, who knows? If Hummels does leave Dortmund then they might come calling. Bayern could probably do with a new CB as well.
I'm expecting this Summer to be utter chaos! It's going to be great fun!
wolfsburg will have become a massive club come end of next season.
I agree with Maze, but more importantly: This is not how it works anymore in the Bundesliga, in particular not among young German players. Knoche gave an interview in which he stressed that it is important for young players to be patient, and that is most important to get regular game time.
If you look at many young German talents (and even non-Germans), they prefer match experience over big names, even if it means a bit less money and a less prestigious club for 2-3 years time. Ginter, Brandt, Calhanoglu, Drmic are just examples, and cases like de Bruyne a "warning" to everyone.
What's going to happen to Kramer? Back to Leverkusen or sold to Gladbach?
Don't think I agree with your assessment at all.
Drmic was at Nurnberg for one season and jumped ship at first opportunity.
Brandt was poached from Wolfsburg this season despire him being good enough to probably start at Wolfsburg!
Calhanoglu seems to be wanting to transfer to a bigger club before the seasons even over.
Ginter has been a starter for Freiburg for 2 seasons. I would be shocked if he's not moved to a bigger club this season.
The ultimate question I suppose is whether Wolfsburg is a big club? I'm not convinced. If they can keep hold of Knoche and Rodriguez and add to their squad. Then they certainly have a chance of challenging for a top 4 spot next season.
What I do agree with you is that players in Bundesliga are going to be very cautious about joining foreign clubs. I don't disagree with them either, I hate the Premier Leagues stance on promoting young players. Frustrates me no end! The average age in the Premier League is much higher than the Bundesliga. Same scenario in Serie A and used to be in La Liga (but they're slowly improving).
But if Dortmund/Bayern come calling, then I think it will be very hard for the player to turn that down. I think Knoche will probably stay, but I can certainly see Rodriguez going.
there's an understanding in the dortmund camp that they are a club that's, momentarily, stuck in between those who can promise/offer regular game time and those huge clubs that wave with big money. that's how they missed out on brandt, goretzka and the likes. if ginter really ends there in the end, he'll be the first highly sought-after talent in quite some time that they could get hold of. young talents and their agents may also have seen what happened to the likes of bittencourt and leitner. and look at erik durm. he stepped up big time and came out of nowhere, now he's benched for a semi-fit schmelzer again. i'd go somewhere else as well.
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VW is behind Wolfsburg. They make more profit every year then the whole Premier League. IF VW is serious and carefull(FFP) they could become BIG in the next years. Allofs and Hecking seem to sail the ship to new lands.
Im a Bayernfan and Im nervous about them! But in the end a strong Wolfsburg would be great for the Bundesliga.
Don't get me wrong, I hope for the sake of the Bundesliga that Wolfsburg, Schalke and Leverkusen raise their level. I'm jealous at the level of talent coming through in Bundesliga, it's mental.
As we're talking about players. Do you think anyone will pick up Niklas Stark from Nurnberg? He looked pretty handy for them.
Hey, no problem. Didnt take your comment bad. Just my view of their potenzial.
Didnt he have a huge injury this season? 19 or so also I think.
Imo he will go nowhere. Nürnberg is a fine club, even in league 2. But who knows. Gündogan was unknown when he went from there to Dortmund. The great thing is that our big and bigger clubs trust German talent.
He had a pretty bad injury from December to March I think. But played a fair bit of the season, the few times I watch Nurnberg live he impressed me.
Anyone?
As far as I know, he's on loan for two years, so I think he'll play in Gladbach next season. His contract in Leverkusen is until 2017. Haven't read anything about his situation in the last weeks, so don't think anything has changed.
There is a homepage in Germany that discusses all referee decisions and shows a table that is "corrected" of all errors. In this season the first two ranks do not change - Bayern would only have had 11 goals more (there were 4 clear penalties not given last weekend and it is the same all season). But the CL ranks would be different and Nürnberg and Hamburg would have switched ranks (what would give Nürnberg the possibility to go into the relegation matches and Hamburg would already be relegated)
The new table:
The official table:
The new table:
The official table: