I would pay 90m to make sure he stays on the bench at this point
Can we keep £90m Lukaku on the bench?
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Chelsea are pretty desperate for a striker, and we have a spare one. I know it wont happen, but under these circumstances we could really have gotten a good deal.
There is simply no reason at all he should start over Rashford hence there is really no reason to keep him.
There is simply no reason at all he should start over Rashford hence there is really no reason to keep him.
Post reads more like an opportunistic rant against players you don't like rather than a critique grounded in reality.
He could still provide to be useful, especially in March when we have PSG, Man C and Liverpool all within 10 days. We need as much reinforcement as we can have. Selling him in January without getting another forward is not a good idea.
Price shouldn't come into it, if he trains well and proves himself when given the chance, he'll start games at some point, especially with the fixtures coming up. It's really down to him. The 1 thing we do know is that he will recieve all the advice and encouragement he needs from Ole and the coaching staff.
£75m + 15 add-ons, which are unlikely to eventuate the way he’s going. Still, silly money for his level.
Lukaku for Kante .straight swap huh?
Spot on. I don't know why when a players playing well, people then seem to focus on the one that isn't. The vultures were circling Rashford for a long time too. No doubt he's a different type of player with a limited skill set but playing well he's an absolute beast and his goal scoring record proves it. Why would we not want a 20+ goal scorer in the club when the ones that are here haven't scored that many goals in a season to date.
Yes its impressive isn't it? We all know Lukaku is crap and wouldn't make the local pubs second team. He is without a shadow of a doubt a very poor footballer and one of the worst purchases in the long and illustrious history of MUFC and believe me we have made far too many bad buys over the years.
I'm confident he'll never be a good fit for us just like Fellaini isn't. They are players who were signed by managers who should have never been here. We should cash in before his value plummets and find a more suitable replacement.
50m + Lukaku for Harry Kane?
Yes, we can. We are rich.
Lukaku's time will come again. Rashford isn't going to keep his current form up indefinitely, especially not at his age. Would be a different matter if Sanchez found form at striker, but at the moment it doesn't seem like Ole plans to use him there which is a pity imo.
If Rashford stays fit and in form then Lukaku is going to have to stay on the bench for the rest of the season as he can only play at 9. He's therefore going to want to leave and rightly so. Sell him to Chelsea who'll pay us the £75m. That can be used to strengthen the defence and maybe get another right-sided option going forward. Dream scenario for me - sell Rojo, Jones, Darmian, Valencia, Fellaini & Lukaku. Buy Mbappe (I know but PSG do have FFP issues), Koulibally and a decent right back
Price of a player means nothing, if they perform they should play. Lukaku has been poor and so is taking his time on the bench well, if he works his way back into the first team then fair play to him.
I really want to see him get aggressive and fight to get back into the team but he just seems too cool a cucumber personality-wise.
I really want to see him get aggressive and fight to get back into the team but he just seems too cool a cucumber personality-wise.
He continues to look like a bit of a misfit, but then we don't have many other main striker options that look that good at present. If Marcus Rashford (or Anthony Martial) picks up an injury or suspension, who replaces him? I think we should keep him until we bring in a better option, then sell him for whatever we can get.
Know this sounds harsh but I'd want to see him a little less bulky before he starts games, I think he's lost a small amount of weight but he still looks too big, especially with the exciting fast attacking football we are playing at the moment he's not going to cope with that pace and intensity and will just get in the way. Even Rashford is starting to tire in the second half and he looks in shape, Lukaku doesn't. We are used to playing pedestrian barely moving football so all the players will take a bit of time to get up to speed look at Liverpool when they first played under Klopp.
He may be useful if we do have to resort to a spot of crossing in to a tall person in a really tight game although I really hope that doesn't happen as it would be great if we could move away from that. He also doesn't seem that strong despite his size I'd expect him to be physically stronger so doesn't really help there either.
I hope the coaches are working on his first touch we can all see it's poor so hopefully they are trying to sort it.
He did very respectably for us last year however if we could get a decent replacement and I think a lot of the smaller clubs would be in for him (I know we wouldn't get the full fee back but could certainly see him at somewhere like Newcastle or maybe back at Everton?)
I do worry if Rashford gets injured. I'd like to see a couple of the kids e.g. Greenwood get some minutes as a sub start integrating them at least then we know exactly where we stand with them e.g. how ready they are, if they are no where near it may be useful keeping Lukaku as back up next season if we can't sign a good replacement.
However I much prefer him being on the bench right now and wouldn't want to be dropping Rashford apart to give him a rest. I just don't see Lukaku fitting in with the new season yes he's scored under Ole but most of them were fairly simple finishes you'd expect from a striker at that level
He may be useful if we do have to resort to a spot of crossing in to a tall person in a really tight game although I really hope that doesn't happen as it would be great if we could move away from that. He also doesn't seem that strong despite his size I'd expect him to be physically stronger so doesn't really help there either.
I hope the coaches are working on his first touch we can all see it's poor so hopefully they are trying to sort it.
He did very respectably for us last year however if we could get a decent replacement and I think a lot of the smaller clubs would be in for him (I know we wouldn't get the full fee back but could certainly see him at somewhere like Newcastle or maybe back at Everton?)
I do worry if Rashford gets injured. I'd like to see a couple of the kids e.g. Greenwood get some minutes as a sub start integrating them at least then we know exactly where we stand with them e.g. how ready they are, if they are no where near it may be useful keeping Lukaku as back up next season if we can't sign a good replacement.
However I much prefer him being on the bench right now and wouldn't want to be dropping Rashford apart to give him a rest. I just don't see Lukaku fitting in with the new season yes he's scored under Ole but most of them were fairly simple finishes you'd expect from a striker at that level
Despite being clumsy & unable to control a ball or even pass to a teammate a lot of the time, I’m one of the few it seems that still likes Lukaku, for his age & overall football ability he has scored a lot of goals.
Mourinho’s style particular in big games where we’d be so deep & limit our striker to scraps & our team has a whole to few shots really gave him little chance to prove the Lukaku can’t score against big teams narrative wrong.
I’d still go with Rashford for the time being due to Rashford / Team as a whole form but to have a 25 year old Striker that’s part of the Prem 100 club that offers completely different attributes to Rashford (what’s the point of 2 like-for-like strikers) is going to be valuable in certain games & situations over a season, not only that at 21 years old Rashford will still have periods where his form drops off so being able to bring in Lukaku could be vital in getting through those moments.
Even under Ole, the big breakthrough vs Newcastle & a great composed finish vs Reading in FA Cup shows he does have a lot to offer - 28 goals in a debut season & (hopefully) finishing with 15+ goals all comps in a 2nd Season featuring Utd’s worst start, poor form from Lukaku & team as a whole, injury, compassionate leave & losing his place in the team would be a very respectable return
He seems to be a figurehead symbol along with Fellaini with some fans of the Jose style/era
Mourinho’s style particular in big games where we’d be so deep & limit our striker to scraps & our team has a whole to few shots really gave him little chance to prove the Lukaku can’t score against big teams narrative wrong.
I’d still go with Rashford for the time being due to Rashford / Team as a whole form but to have a 25 year old Striker that’s part of the Prem 100 club that offers completely different attributes to Rashford (what’s the point of 2 like-for-like strikers) is going to be valuable in certain games & situations over a season, not only that at 21 years old Rashford will still have periods where his form drops off so being able to bring in Lukaku could be vital in getting through those moments.
Even under Ole, the big breakthrough vs Newcastle & a great composed finish vs Reading in FA Cup shows he does have a lot to offer - 28 goals in a debut season & (hopefully) finishing with 15+ goals all comps in a 2nd Season featuring Utd’s worst start, poor form from Lukaku & team as a whole, injury, compassionate leave & losing his place in the team would be a very respectable return
He seems to be a figurehead symbol along with Fellaini with some fans of the Jose style/era
He's not even nearly as bad as some of you are making him to be.
That could be true but is he good enough for how we aspire to play and what we want to achieve?
We need to offer Spurs more than a cumulative 30 million for Kane mate.
I think a lot of players are highlighting his specific deficiencies are they are being shown up in both Jose's and OGS' systems. For me he is the wrong player for our new fluid system - he'd do well elsewhere if given a chance to focus on his strengths (goal poaching, getting in foot races near goal).
One area I really dislike is his lack of movement. One of the Valencia games really infuriated me, while his recent sub appearance against Spurs was really disapointiing for a player trying to get back in the 1st team. I find it strange as there are others games where he has tracked back and win tackles around our box !?! Not sure if it is a fitness or attitude thing, but it's the biggest area he needs to improve on, followed closely by his 1st touch
It sucks that we have ended up with a striker who has very poor technical ability and is unable to do anything, but finish.
The other issue is that the guy is useless against top teams.
All in all, he has shown no improvement and at his age, it is unlikely that he will improve.
The coaches need to improve his first touch and the easiest way to do this is to have him kick a ball against a wall. It begs belief that his major weakness (first touch) has not been identified and worked upon. And if it has been worked upon, it isn't working and the coaches (as well Lukaku), need to take a long hard look at themselves. Above all, it is the player himself, which needs to be responsible for his own development. If he feels that his first touch is terrible, he needs to discuss this with the coaches, to help him in this area.
In saying all of the above though, I still think that we can make use of him. He is a good bench option to have, against teams who of poor quality. Against top quality defences though, he is pretty much useless.
Not only should he be benched, he should be sold.
MU don't buy cart horses, we need athletes who can run and last 90 mins.
MU don't buy cart horses, we need athletes who can run and last 90 mins.
Should have offered him to Chelsea.
Fcukinell the state of this thread. In a short while it'll be all roses in here and the next player will be getting thoroughly and overly rinsed. 
No support from these supporters...
Out of form? Failed to deliver a few games in row? Fcuk you, get rid, sack fergie, sell giggs!!1
No support from these supporters...
Out of form? Failed to deliver a few games in row? Fcuk you, get rid, sack fergie, sell giggs!!1
Is it really such a bad thing to have a 25 year old proven premier league goalscorer with a 1 in 2 goal record on the bench?
I hope Ole isn’t thinking of starting him tomorrow night.
I honestly think he needs to slim down massively & gain some pace from the lost weight and he'd fit great into our front 3. The Lukaku from Everton; not this Mark Henry looking, tired after 5 mins, sorry player we see today.
If someone offered £60 mil for him I'd bite their hand off though
If someone offered £60 mil for him I'd bite their hand off though
Fcukinell the state of this thread. In a short while it'll be all roses in here and the next player will be getting thoroughly and overly rinsed.
No support from these supporters...
Out of form? Failed to deliver a few games in row? Fcuk you, get rid, sack fergie, sell giggs!!1
I wouldn't mind loaning him out to Cardiff for the remainder of the season and hope he gets some goals to add to his market value. He clearly doesn't fit our playing style and we could do with some good karma.
For £75-90m?
Fcukinell the state of this thread. In a short while it'll be all roses in here and the next player will be getting thoroughly and overly rinsed.
No support from these supporters...
Out of form? Failed to deliver a few games in row? Fcuk you, get rid, sack fergie, sell giggs!!1
... do you have a clue what you're talking about.
Fcukinell the state of this thread. In a short while it'll be all roses in here and the next player will be getting thoroughly and overly rinsed.
No support from these supporters...
Out of form? Failed to deliver a few games in row? Fcuk you, get rid, sack fergie, sell giggs!!1
I agree. The hyperbole is ridiculous. Can’t do anything other than score? Nobody’s seen the crosses he puts in? And he’s taken many a defender for a run, carrying the ball decently in the process.
I wonder how many of the people who shout ’useless’ have never played in anything resembling a match?
Love the term decently!! You are damning him with you faint praise.
It was a ridiculous transfer fee, Sanchez would have been worth the same at least and he is on the bench also.
Haven’t read the thread & hate to be pedantic, but was Lukaku not signed for £75m? I suppose with add ons it might be around £90m - not that I’m aware of what those add ons are.
His touch is not his strength. Would I be damning Messi with faint praise if I said he’s a decent header of the ball?
At any rate, I’d say it’s a more valid contribution than the heaps of people saying he’d struggle for minutes at yer local pub team. I fecking hate that sort of ignorant bullshit.
Think he'll be starting tonight alongside Sanchez.