You need to learn what a good performance is
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Fletcher didn't do anything with the ball, he didn't even cover as much distance as Carrick, what game did you watch?
You need to watch the game, and not Carrick.
ANYONE who watches Cambiasso throughout the game would see an immense performance. I'm a United fan, but I can see he was the best player on the pitch.
Eh?
Prime example of a one-shot deal and cashing in, well done Pompey.
P.s. Brwned how many times have I quoted you today?
Cambiasso had a bit of a Hollywood performance. Had to do everything himself due to the lack of quality around him. He did very well compared to the rest of his gang, but Carrick was obviously better than him, he just wasn't made to look great by a bunch of spastic team mates.
I do watch the game, that's why I picked up on the quality of Carrick ahead of the likes of Diarra and other candidates to replace Keano.
Cambiasso was their best player, he as part of their midfield still got picked off by the passing of Carrick and others, he wasn't very good at stopping us playing which was his job.
Interesting but doesn't change my view on the match. I can think straight away of two great dangerous balls Cambiasso hit across the box that didn't 'complete' but were still good, and I can also think of one shite pass from Carrick (balanced of course by one or two beauties).
You're so biased towards Carrick that you can't see a good performance from any other player. Its annoying at times. Both Fletcher and Cambiasso were better than him today even though he was fecking excellent too.
That's mostly because he was doing it on his own. Their midfield had a poor shape too because Muntari was too wide on the left (and shite), and Stankovic too advanced (and also shite).
Don't agree that Fletcher was better. Not much in it though, and you're right about Mozza's ridiculous bias.
For effs sake.
Cambiassinho played well.
Fletcher played well.
Carrick played well.
My cock is bigger than yours. All of you.
Cambiassinho played well.
Fletcher played well.
Carrick played well.
My cock is bigger than yours. All of you.
My sweet jesus,
Since when does 3% of a passing percentile determine who had a better match?
fecking daft.
Fletcher did his thing but there is a mile between them in use of the ball on the night.
We controlled the midfield. Carrick was a big part of that. Cambiasso still had a good game.
It's pedantic I know but I was replying to the character who said 'ANYONE who watches player x' comment, which is a 'I know what I'm talking about, dont' you?' sort of statement.
His arguement was that he 'didn't misplace a pass'.
Taken from the telegraph match stats by the way.
Michael Carrick really is class. And comes into his own without Scholes, although as a partnership they are perfect.
At times in the 2nd half I felt he could have pushed on with more urgency, but the team as a whole had quietened by then.
At times in the 2nd half I felt he could have pushed on with more urgency, but the team as a whole had quietened by then.
Cambiasso had plenty of help, they play a narrow diamond, the two central midfielder moving to the wing is the natural reaction to our width, if they didn't Inter would have got a serious tonking.
That was me.
A pass can be not misplaced but still not complete. The stats do not tell you all.
The point might have sounded heavy-handed, but what I was really trying to get at is that I was keeping a particularly close eye on the player and that anyone who had done the same would have seen the same. It was actually intended as the opposite of arrogance - i.e. anyone who focused on Cambiasso during the match would see what I was talking about.
Fletcher was the best midfielder on the pitch. He seemed to do all the running and he was generally all over the place. Carrick did alright but it was no masterclass as some were suggesting. Some people do really wear red tinted glasses when viewing certain players.
I agree, he was their best player, but he wasn't as good as either Carrick or Fletcher.
You didn't have to focus especially on him. He played well. So did Carrick.
Who were the better one on the night? Feck knows.
Spot on this man.
I think Cambiasso bossed the midfield in the second half, he was everywhere defensively and offensively. Missed an absolute sitter too.
According to MUTV Carrick covered the most distance on the pitch, I presume the UEFA stats told them that
In what way ? serious question. If you're talking about an early game pass that Fletcher hit that skied over Ronaldo compared to a long diagonal into space for Rooney the yes. I'd be interested to see the chalkboard.
I thought Carrick kinda hid tonight whereas Fletcher was always looking to get involved. Both were excellent and the foundation on which United took a point.
Cambiasso did boss the second half but that must have been that he fouled every time we were close to getting through. He stopped everything through fouling. I can't believe he wasn't booked.
Do they put the clips in their boots, or does some 87 year old man watch from a press box and measures out how much distance on has travelled?
I think it's cool but it's always been a great mystery into how they do it.
I'll start another thread if it takes away from this daft argument...
Park was on 9.99 KM... for feck sakes give him the nudge UEFA
Yet if you watched the game, you would realise that Fletch was doing most of the pressing whilst Carrick was sitting in front of the cbs a lot more. That's obviously what I meant by Fletch being all over the place. I was not having a go at Carrick.
Miccio Carrico
The pass to Giggs which he used to turn that shite defender in the first half and run through, in the second he played an early pass to Giggs that led to his shot late on, the pass to Rooney which was flat out amazing, there was one in the first half to Ronaldo that wasn't easy to gather but still inside the fullback and would have sent him free. There are others I'm sure
Carrick's a class act, but I didn't feel he was as good as all this
I don't even have an opinion on Cambiasso, because I don't care
I don't even have an opinion on Cambiasso, because I don't care
I didn't say you were, I was pointing out that Carrick really was all over the place, more so then Fletch in any case
I don't agree with that at all. Fletcher was involved in the play so often whether it was defensive or offensive. Carrick, whilst he did well in his own right, was not as involved as Fletcher, who in my opinion was excellent.
Fletcher was up and down the pitch and putting in tackles but Carrick had more of an attacking influence with his passing and also tonight some dribbling in advanced areas. Carrick even tried a trick with one of his turns tonight which shows how confidently he played - when have you ever seen Michael Carrick do that? He did the opposite of "hide" today as someone suggested.
Cambiasso vs Carrick thread?
Agreed.
Hargreaves must have been relegated.
Both Carrick and Fletcher were magnificent against Inter Milan. They played a huge part in our domination of the midfield and didnt allow them to dictate the flow of the game.