Good for you.
Celebrity Allegations, #MeToo etc
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Good for you.
Them being grown doesn’t mean anything, and is dismissive of their experience and reaction.
These stories are mutually exclusive to other stories about those in physical danger, they exist and can coincide. It’s not an either or situation.
Anyone knows that hotel meetings are common, I’ve had countless meetings that take place in executive suites in hotels because they have conference rooms that are great for hosting meetings, and are an ideal location to host a meeting particularly when you’re discussing something
Not sure what you’re trying to imply otherwise.
I don't think so. The normal reaction is to go "Ugh!", jump up from your chair and leave. After all, there were two of them and the guy was lying on a couch with his pants down.
The idea that they were frightened by CK's 'power' doesn't hang together either. It didn't stop them going out the next day and telling the story to everybody they met - behaviour surely more likely to antagonise CK than a decision to skip the sex show the night before.
I suspect they didn't feel overly threatened by the situation at all, and stayed out of a mixture of social embarrassment and morbid fascination. Then, when he ejaculated, they went "Ugh!" and ran away.
There can be more than one normal reaction to something.
Perhaps it's the thrill of doing something very intimate in front of strangers. One moment he's talking to these women he's just met and the next he's "performing" right in front of them.
I do understand, but this is not walking out in front of a car and freezing in a panic, or being in on public transport and have a stranger do it to you who could be dangerous and have a weapon. These are people in no direct danger who made the decision go to his hotel room and stay and watch.
I'm not sure you're getting this starman.
No, see. Everyone is exactly like him so it doesn't make sense if someone does something he wouldn't.
Yeah I give up. People like him are exactly why victims think twice before coming forward.
Hmm..
That fines, its your opinion, i have mine
Use that in reverse, from your perspective. That opinions, idiot
Like him? what and your opinion trumps everyone else's, pretentious much?
Louis CK said it was true, so its not a very good example
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Yes because that's what people are arguing should happen. "Put them in jail without due process being follwed" is constantly being repeated.
This isn't about opinions. The victims have said they felt paralyzed. I mean, you have a woman in here saying the exact same thing. Those are facts; your own experiences mean nothing in this context, even more so if you are a man. You can't tell people how they should feel and then pass it off as a difference of opinion when they don't feel that way.
Different people react differently to the same situation. From speaking to people, freezing is a very common reaction to a situation you're not prepared to handle and are unable to comprehend in the moment.
In that case, this climate is one I'm grateful we're in. And stars using their power to sleep around is different from harassment, assault and rape. Let's not trivialise things.
Yes and not every circumstance is the same. Just like rape and sexual comments that seem to have been put in the same box these past few weeks...
I dont know who you are talking of, but the example of being on public transport and a stranger doing it, that i fully understand, anyone freezing.
But in this circumstance, the women were in no danger and could freely leave and Louis CK did not deny doing it
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If a women wants to see your old fella they will ask, hell they will probably be happy to get it out for you.
Always better to be invited rather than wandering around, pants by your ankles holding it like a 3 year old boy.
The kid doesn't know any better, a gentleman gets invited.
Always better to be invited rather than wandering around, pants by your ankles holding it like a 3 year old boy.
The kid doesn't know any better, a gentleman gets invited.
Not really. Louis CK's a famous celebrity with a lot of power who'd have been able to potentially damage the career of those he was making watch him if they'd told him no. Whether he'd have done so or not is up for debate, but the implication was certainly there.
CK's only accepted guilt now multiple accusers have come forward. Until recently he'd denied the allegations and was publicly labelling the women liars.
Probably not, but in this day and age, the Chappelle skit of bringing a contract for both parties to sign before any coitus is initiated, comes to mind.
Lads, I'd like to apologise for my last post.
A friend of mine recently told me that she was sexually assaulted whilst walking on the street in the evening in Florida. She was heartbroken and very emotional about the incident. She hasn't even told her family about the incident but told me, since we were discussing the Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby thing. George Takei is well known for his quips on Facebook and for his anti-dicrimination, progressive posts and posts about tolerance and women's rights. To see him being accused of assault and allegations about him perhaps using his fame and power for assault was not just ironic after all his posts, but also seemed hypocritical to me. I felt angry reading about Takei and made that post in anger.
I'm sorry for that post. I shouldn't have made it. Sorry for any offence.
A friend of mine recently told me that she was sexually assaulted whilst walking on the street in the evening in Florida. She was heartbroken and very emotional about the incident. She hasn't even told her family about the incident but told me, since we were discussing the Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby thing. George Takei is well known for his quips on Facebook and for his anti-dicrimination, progressive posts and posts about tolerance and women's rights. To see him being accused of assault and allegations about him perhaps using his fame and power for assault was not just ironic after all his posts, but also seemed hypocritical to me. I felt angry reading about Takei and made that post in anger.
I'm sorry for that post. I shouldn't have made it. Sorry for any offence.
Ridiculous tweet. There's plenty of examples of men being wrongfully convicted of rape. Plenty of women and men have lied about all manor of things to sell a story for money. Motor insurance is vastly inflated because of fraudulant cases.
Assuming all accusers are honest is as dangerous as considering all accusers to be dishonest
Bit odd to say these women were not, and should not have felt in danger.
Their responses sound like fright from the options of fight, fright, or flight. Perfectly normal.
Their responses sound like fright from the options of fight, fright, or flight. Perfectly normal.
Who cares why the women went to Louis C.K's hotel room? They might've at that point intended to bang him, it's irrelevant. What matters is he took it upon himself to pull his tackle out and wave it at them. Their reaction after is also fairly irrelevant, everyone is different. Some would run, some would scream, some would make fun of his tiny little pecker and kick him in the bollocks. It doesn't really matter, does it?
The Oscars will be interesting this year.
If this continues at the same rate, there will hardly be any male celebrities at the Oscars and Emmy's. Most of them will be under police investigation or in prison.
Or erased from history?
Legit not true.
Well tbh, the reason they go to said hotel room, and their reaction is very relevant, isnt it? Especially the former. How could it possibly not?
Because they weren't expecting the weirdo to pull his dick out the moment they got in the door. In that moment they went from whatever mood they were in before to 'let's get out of here, this guy's a freak'.