He'll probably be okay for this season, don't think they'll sack him since I think he's still fairly popular with a good number of Celtic fans. I think he'll have to win the treble now though if he doesn't want the possibility of being sacked lingering over his head.
Celtic Appoint Ronny Deila As New Manager
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The guy walks around pumping his fists when they beat cannon fodder in the SPL then his teams go out and get pumped when they face decent opposition.
True, the current Celtic side is incredibly poor in comparison to some previous ones. Deila's been far from superb, but I think the likes of O'Neill/Strachan would struggle with this current squad: Gordon kept them in it at certain points with his goalkeeping.
His Celtic side is often quite attack-minded which is good for them when they're playing well, like in the early stages of the 1st leg, but I was expecting them to struggle in this one since playing for a draw was the best approach, but not one they'd likely go for.
Celtic are just terrible.
Cifti? Or something looks shit.
Boyata looks shit
Janko looks shit.
One of the worst Celtic sides I've seen.
Cifti? Or something looks shit.
Boyata looks shit
Janko looks shit.
One of the worst Celtic sides I've seen.
No money in Scottish Football. Will be a while before they reach group stage again.
Aren't we about due for the "Celtic and Rangers need to be in the EPL" bleatings yet?
Think those days are a distant me memory.
I think if they had lowered their sights and accepted they would of had to start at the bottom of the pyramid and work their way up when the rumblings were at their peak, what? Ten or twelve years ago now? They would of had a chance.
Instead they were angling to gate crash the premier league and jump straight into the money and that was never going to fly with anybody.
The future of Scottish football, in terms of them being able to compete to some extent in Europe, is looking pretty bleak. Deila will probably survive as they know he can win the league and a cup of two without too much trouble and they can reassess in the summer.
Hard to know what decent manager would go there. They don't have the players or the resources to buy decent players. By the looks of things they might have missed out on one potential one in Alex Neil.
Hard to know what decent manager would go there. They don't have the players or the resources to buy decent players. By the looks of things they might have missed out on one potential one in Alex Neil.
I dont much about their football situation but dont they have academy or something and with them being number one team,shouldnt they like attract most talented kids in Scotland?
He doesn't walk around pumping his fists (in an entirely non-antagonistic away) because we've beaten SPL fodder. It's to build up a rapport with the fans. Pretty much every team in the Bundesliga do shit like this after every match.
The reaction within Scotland to the Celtic manager fist pumping the Celtic fans has always baffled me.
Bingo.
All the "Celtic are just shit" posts are completely missing the point. A side which was recently promoted from League 1 in England were financially able to go out and bid like 6-8m or whatever it was on a Premier League player. We simply cannot compete with that.
That said, our board are a complete joke. The tightest and least ambitious board I've ever known to exist at any club. The manager doesn't even make the signings. Our overlord Peter Lawwell does that and he's ruined the club.
It's really daft though isn't it? Do they eat that stuff up?
If he wants to build a rapport he should at least win the treble and stop failing in the bigger games.
Ludicrous suggestion. That would then suggest that only successful managers of clubs can have a rapport with their fans.
What's daft is how worked up people get over it. I'd fully agree with them if it was done to antagonise opposition fans but it really isn't. He does it at home games too ffs.
He isnt a bad manager is Deila. I blame the Celtic board. They basically have a free run at the CL every season yet dont invest enough in wages to get there. The prize money would be worth it alone.
Kris Commons looked overweight when he came on today.
I don't think its Delia's fault that he has to work with Griffths, Ciftci, and Stokes as his strikers. Where's all that money gone from Wanyama? Forster? etc
I don't think its Delia's fault that he has to work with Griffths, Ciftci, and Stokes as his strikers. Where's all that money gone from Wanyama? Forster? etc
He's on 20k a week apparently isn't he?
Not too sure but I do know he gets a million quid bonus and gets bonuses based on transfer profit which is absolutely disgraceful and really does show you where the ambition lies at the club. Healthy bank balances trump all else.
So if you sell Virgil VD Lawwell will get a bonus?
Why would the have the right to have the best talents in Scotland? One of the problems is that they are quite comfortable signing half of Dundee United who are never going to take them a level up to compete to some degree in Europe while only further weakening rivals.
However for some Celtic fans to complain about the finances is a bit mental when the average pay there was over £17k a week which is more than the other 11 teams combined. While they're may be the odd challenge to Celtic the financial disparity means they don't need to spend big to win domestic titles and therefore won't progress in Europe.
John Collins was whinging that the teams in Scotland aren't good enough to prepare them for Europe and that the competition isn't good enough, and that's nobody's fault but there own. If they got through they would've just spent the money trying to get more United players.
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Yet teams like Malmo, Maribor and Legia all were better than Celtic despite having a smaller budget.
Easy there tiger,never said they have the right to have best talents in Scotland.What i was wondering is regarding their pull as club,when it comes to talented kids,if thats not the case,thats even better for Scottish football imo.
Like i said,dont know anything about whats going on in Scottish league,from where they getting their players,whats going on with other clubs etc.
Having no money is a fantastic excuse. Scottish football is fecked because they feel sorry for themselves.
Legia lost to them.
They overcame a 4-1 deficit from the first leg with a stunning 3-0 win at home.Legia lost to them.
Time to move on from that.
Well it probably set Polish league back by good 4-5 years at very least so this is how long I can grieve, not being a Legia fan either.
Shit happens. It was a stupid mistake on the managers part.
Karma is great though, two years running Celtic have failed to make CL anyway.
Attracting the most talented kids in Scotland isn't going to do anything for them. How many Scottish players are world class? or even Champions league pedigree? Not very many, and any that are will be snapped up by English teams.
This comes down to the Celtic board, without Rangers in the league they don't feel the need to have to spend as much money. Celtic need Rangers back and challenging them ASAP
Not exactly karma. Celtic are just pretty shit these days and don't really deserve to be there, especially if they make Malmo look like fecking Barca.
Yea i understand your point but tho maybe they would get more quality from their own developed young players then to go and buy half of Dundee United for example,plus that way league would be stronger.
This here is the core problem. Scotland were caught up and overtaken with respect to the depth of quality of players being produced 25 or 30 years ago. The coaching systems of junior and youth players had fallen behind what many nations were doing. In the last 3-5 years many of those coaching issues have been looked at but at best Scotlands coaching systems have merely been playing catchup. Right now the National team is punching far above its weight considering the player quality available and I just cant see Scotland ever getting back to being a truly strong international side. Celtic and its money are not the problem. (I hate Celtic btw)
It's a daft way of getting the fans on his side without getting particularly good results though. Everyone knows it. There are coaches who have a rapport with fans because of the work they do at the club and the appreciation of that, then there's punching the air and the 'ronny roar' which are cheap ways of getting the fans onside without getting the results on the pitch.
Who get's worked up over it? I just find it embarrassing, he can do it till the end of time and it's never going to bother me personally.
How do you know they have a smaller budget. They are probably closer than you think.
The quality of the players at teams like Celtic isn't what it used to be. Too many players happy to be the big fish in the small pond as well.
Glad to see they never made it to the CL though.
Glad to see they never made it to the CL though.
Deila taking a hammering here: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/aug/26/celtic-champions-league-exit-ronny-deila
That's not true either. When lower league teams are throwing around money for players like Gray and Afobe and League 1 teams able to pay transfer fees that everyone else in Scotland, apart from Celtic, couldn't then there isn't really much chance to compete. I think the total annual wage bill in Scotland was about £50m and if you consider that Celtic themselves would have make up more than half of that then money isn't just an 'excuse'. League 1 teams will be paying the same if not more than the majority of Scottish Premiership Clubs.
They have to adopt like other smaller nations have, there's no point crying over your neighbours wealth. There are plenty of players to go around, even for teams in Scotland. Celtic should have every decent youngster on their books, training them to a high standard and bringing them through the ranks, instead they buy average players knowing that's all it's going to take to win the league. They won the European Cup by building a team from within their community, it's time they went back to basics. The same can be said for all the other clubs in Scotland.
Celtic have spent 12 times more on their current squad than Malmo.
Malmo barely spent £1m in transfer fees the last 4 seasons. Celtic spent £1.5m was it on Ciftci? Maribor have spent very little too, but a bit more than Malmo.
Celtic have brought in something like £30m in transfer fees the last few seasons. Malmo/Maribor don't even come close to that. Legia come the closest, but they've not spent £10m in a transfer window like Celtic have.
I get Celtic have downsized and they're working on a smaller budget. But how much have they wasted on utter crap like Derk, Scepovic, Pukki, Balde, Ciftci? Pukki cost £3m ffs.
Why should Celtic have every decent youngster on their books? What would be the point in the other Scottish teams competing? You say that the should adopt the same practices as other small nations, what is that? If you look at the CL Group Stage draw there will be a couple of small teams but nobody really coming from nowhere, and there is no chance that they'll get through. They won the European Cup in '69. There is no chance it would happen in again. Championship teams could come in and buy players from them, and you see the likes of Ledley at Crystal Palace, Hooper at Norwich, Ki to Swansea and Matthews to Sunderland. There is too much money for Celtic, or any other Scottish club to compete at any sort of European level. Aberdeen have lost players to Rotherham and a newly promoted Championship Bournemouth. It's the same everywhere in Scotland.
The development at youth is something that needs to be addressed but lets not kid ourselves that there is no chance of Celtic, Aberdeen and then English teams like Villa and Forest winning anything in Europe again.